[cranelec]

Installing this "bad boy" is still eight weeks away. Still reading and re-reading newtis, watching how to videos, etc. until I'm comfortable swapping out my 07/2010 N55 engine with a '15 F30 N55 w/30K miles. (Still have to erect my HF portable garage with a YouTube engineered wooden floor, too).
Wanted to share the following picture of my new used motor...[IMG][/IMG]
Doesn't it look fast?

[Nastymateo]

Looks like the the box is already going to need new tires. To much horsepower

[MartinWake]

thats one fast box

[xxMike61]

Needs more low

[cranelec]

Originally Posted by xxMike61

Needs more low

Suspension or torque? I'm positive I can shave 1/2" off the pallet. As for more torque...well I have a couple of ideas but German is not my native language and I'm an electrician not a computer god. However, I believe I've uncovered hidden tables in the way the OSB is patterned that could result in huge low end gains.

[WeekendWarriorz]

Not sure if you know, your 2010 motor has the early E series HPFP, the 2015 has the late E series HPFP and a completely different DME (ECU) that's in the F chasis cars. If I recall I've read before that it's not compatible.

[cranelec]

Originally Posted by WeekendWarriorz

Not sure if you know, your 2010 motor has the early E series HPFP, the 2015 has the late E series HPFP and a completely different DME (ECU) that's in the F chasis cars. If I recall I've read before that it's not compatible.

Thanks! Several forum members who have earned my trust and respect through their keystrokes made me aware of these issues.

However, I cannot really afford to mess this up!

Any and all tips and suggestions are appreciated!

According to my local BMW Service Manager, I shouldn't have to change the HPFP. Yet, when I asked him if the injectors in the new motor had to be calibrated to my old DME, he replied: Hmmm, that would probably be a good idea.

[WeekendWarriorz]

Originally Posted by cranelec

Thanks! Several forum members who have earned my trust and respect through their keystrokes made me aware of these issues.

However, I cannot really afford to mess this up!

Any and all tips and suggestions are appreciated!

According to my local BMW Service Manager, I shouldn't have to change the HPFP. Yet, when I asked him if the injectors in the new motor had to be calibrated to my old DME, he replied: Hmmm, that would probably be a good idea.

Does the motor you have have the turbo and all other accessories with it? 2015 n55 also has the electronic wastegate turbo instead of the 2010-2013 Pneumatic wastegate, also aside the hpfp differences the ecu is is different, I can't confirm yes it'll work but from what I've read across various posts it seems like it's not compatible/easier to just swap it out with a E series N55, one that's 2010-early 2012. This is a quote from another post," Timing tensions and some other items are different. Mostly you have to swap out mech hpfp which requires removal of the seal and cover on front of engine and need to keep gear timed when switching. This is biggest difference".

You're gonna have an easier time getting a 2010-03/2012 N55, n55 produced after 03/2012 have the late E series motor with a different dme and same hpfp as the F series cars.

[cranelec]

This is exactly the kind of feedback that I need! I removed the lid of the crate to check for damage (the wife would kill me if I opened the crate this close to the holidays).
Turbod informed me that it would be much easier to swap a similar (i.e. 2010-early 2012 motor). Normally, I would hesitate before going against his guidance. I saw no value in purchasing a high mileage 2010-early2012 motor to put into a car which will be my dd for the next 5 to 7 years before I retire. Especially when my garage is my driveway and I do the wrenching. Let's face it, purchasing/owning a used turbocharged non-CPO BMW is at best an act of financial stupidity. I'd like to think I made the correct decision.

The motor is about as complete as you are going to find from a salvage yard. My visual inspection from the top revealed that the motor includes the turbofold, DME, intake manifold, OFG supporting additional cooling radiator, VC, Injectors, HPFP, Vacuum pump, looks like complete wiring harness. The loaded? long block is missing: starter, alternator, and power steering pump. It is my intent to sell off what I don't need to help recover some of my costs.

The turbofold/wastegate should not be an issue. I plan on using my PS2. Yes, the hpfp is a concern along with the Timing tensions and some other things are different you speak of.

The engine is bought and paid for...along with the HF portable garage, a new HF 1 Ton Folding shop crane, two new HF motor stands, etc. There is no going back.

Thanks again warriorz

mike

[WeekendWarriorz]

Originally Posted by cranelec

This is exactly the kind of feedback that I need! I removed the lid of the crate to check for damage (the wife would kill me if I opened the crate this close to the holidays).
Turbod informed me that it would be much easier to swap a similar (i.e. 2010-early 2012 motor). Normally, I would hesitate before going against his guidance. I saw no value in purchasing a high mileage 2010-early2012 motor to put into a car will be my dd for the next 5 to 7 years before I retire. Especially when my garage is my driveway and I do the wrenching. Let's face it, purchasing/owning a used turbocharged non-CPO BMW is at best an act of financial stupidity. I'd like to think I made the correct decision.

The motor is about as complete as you are going to find from a salvage yard. My visual inspection from the top revealed that the motor includes the turbofold, DME, intake manifold, OFG supporting additional cooling radiator, VC, Injectors, HPFP, Vacuum pump, looks like complete wiring harness. The loaded? long block is missing: starter, alternator, and power steering pump. It is my intent to sell off what I don't need to help recover some of my costs.

The turbofold/wastegate should not be an issue. I plan on using my PS2. Yes, the hpfp is a concern along with the Timing tensions and some other things are different you speak of.

The engine is bought and paid for...along with the HF portable garage, a new HF 1 Ton Folding shop crane, two new HF motor stands, etc. There is no going back.

Thanks again warriorz

mike

If you decide the pursue this I wish you the best of luck, if anything becomes weird with the car when you start it up you may need to look into getting it coded with the dme since it's technically going to be an F series car. also if you want to tune in the future you're probably going to be using MHD N55 for F series. If there's any way you can sell the motor or return it and get a correct one that would be the easiest way to go about this imo, but good luck! Keep us updated

[weehe126]

It's an N55, the core of it is the same. He has to transfer everything over. No one is using a F series DME in an E series.

[WeekendWarriorz]

Originally Posted by weehe126

It's an N55, the core of it is the same. He has to transfer everything over. No one is using a F series DME in an E series.

Hpfp is cam driven off the engine in a late e series.

[cranelec]

Originally Posted by WeekendWarriorz

Hpfp is cam driven off the engine in a late e series.

Yes, but both the 2010 - early 2012 Continental Pumps and the later Bosch pumps are driven via a chain and sprocket off the crankshaft. The difference lies in the vacuum pump which either hpfp is mechanically driven by.

I believe I found the online posting on another bmw forum which is cause for most of the concern attempting to swap a post 03/2012 N55 with an earlier engine. I hope that Facebook group you mentioned accepts my membership request...if only to confirm my theory.

Assuming my theory is correct, I have two choices. Trust the service manager at my local BMW dealership and leave the newer combo vacuum-hpfp on the new motor (I have no plans to run E85); or install my older combo vacuum-hpfp pump on the new motor.

I will make this decision when both motors are on their respective engine stands and I can accurately determine whether the newer Bosch hpfp will play nice with both my wiring harness and my DME. The other concerns raised by that other online posting are non-issues.

Thankfully, you brought this matter to my attention and allowed me to research, evaluate, and develop a reasonable course of action.

Thanks again. Enjoy the holiday!

mike

[juld0zer]

https://www.newtis.info/tisv2/a/en/f...i-lim/HmgKn9Ik

[cranelec]

Originally Posted by juld0zer

https://www.newtis.info/tisv2/a/en/f...i-lim/HmgKn9Ik

Thanks for the link. The information is helpful. The last thing I want to do is this N55 engine R & R adventure twice. Going against Turbod's advice is a first for me. Frankly, another forum member who commands the same level of my personal respect as Turbod remembers swapping out an '11 N55 with a '13 N55 with an '11 335 with differing model hpfp.
Your link forced me to reach out to my local BMW dealer's Service Manager to reply definitively that the newer Bosch pump will work with my harness, DME, and re-coding the injectors. My 2011 edition Bentley's Manual includes the steps for replacing both styles of hpfp. Despite investing in a HF portable garage, the season, weather, and my driveway doubling as my garage, I'm in no rush*
Obviously, if the sensor connector is visually and electrically different, I will have no choice but to swap the vacuum pumps while both engines are mounted on stands inside my "anything but" an attached one car garage.

Thanks for taking the time to reply.

*wife is okay with trading up her '07 328xi to a surprisingly reasonably priced '13 335i M-Sport with 50.4k miles

[houtan]

Hey Mike, did you blow your motor?

[houtan]

This guy swapped an f30 n55 motor into his e82 n55. Look at page two of the thread, I believe he swapped over his e series sump, vacuum pump, and HPFP.

https://www.n54tech.com/forums/showt...ht=Swap&page=2

[cranelec]

Originally Posted by houtan

Hey Mike, did you blow your motor?

...this occurred by starting the car

I ignored the advice of several forum members and purchased a N55 from a '15 F series 335i AWD. I did NOT ignore the advice given to by several forum members to thoroughly read newtis.info.

I still think the swap is possible. Unfortunately, I believe the skill sets and special tools required are beyond my ability(s). I stumbled across the thread you posted below several hours ago and will reach out to JacquesN55.

Thanks Houtan! If your still in touch with Orteeze, give him my best wishes and congrats on the new baby!

[houtan]

Sorry to hear about your motor. Please let us know how things go with the new motor.

[cranelec]

Originally Posted by houtan

Sorry to hear about your motor. Please let us know how things go with the new motor.

Don't be! I owe much to you!

[cranelec]

Originally Posted by cranelec

Don't be! I owe much to you!

Decided to sell my Dynavin N6. Started car for first time in three months. Does this video suggest anything? Still six weeks away from pulling the damn thing due to weather.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/10ti...w?usp=drivesdk

[sergey_206]

My engine is making the same exact noise. Deciding if I should tear it apart or just swap a used.