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      04-09-2019, 06:01 PM   #23
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yes, more complex, forced induction, high plastic, "performance cars" will require more maintenance.

I think the golden era for tank like cars has past. 80s is long gone friend.

Enjoy your analog car while you can.

One day we'll all be on subscription-based, electric, no steering wheel, self driving, single caboose road trains.
Volvos still exist lol
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      04-09-2019, 06:22 PM   #24
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Volvos still exist lol
My son's new V90 (wagon) AWD T6 is *far* more complicated than my E90 335d, or my wife's 2014 328xd. The engine even has both a turbo and super-charger!
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      04-09-2019, 07:54 PM   #25
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The post originator drives an n54 335i.
Possibly the most troublesome BMW ever.




'nuff said.
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      04-09-2019, 09:56 PM   #26
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yes, more complex, forced induction, high plastic, "performance cars" will require more maintenance.

I think the golden era for tank like cars has past. 80s is long gone friend.

Enjoy your analog car while you can.

One day we'll all be on subscription-based, electric, no steering wheel, self driving, single caboose road trains.
This is why I chose a 2006 330i sport package with a manual transmission. I figure it's the last of the analog/ naturally aspirated performance 3 Series. But still modern enough to be comfortable and convenient to drive every day.


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The N52 E90 has shown it easily reaches 300,000 miles, and the turbo versions are showing 250,000 miles is easily attainable.
Glad to hear this!
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      04-09-2019, 10:27 PM   #27
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      04-09-2019, 10:57 PM   #28
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Over 150,000 here. Not entirely sure what OP is on about.

I’ve spent maybe $1000 USD on my high-mileage car in the two year span I’ve owned it.

DIY... it’s really not that hard.
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My N52 E93 has been pretty costly and unreliable over the last 40,000+ miles but at least it's not an N54.

The GM transmission has been great though.
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Over 150,000 here. Not entirely sure what OP is on about.

I've spent maybe $1000 USD on my high-mileage car in the two year span I've owned it.

DIY... it's really not that hard.
You're right, it really isn't. All you need are the right tools. I've done the spark plugs, coils, cleaned the vanos solenoids, replaced the alternator regulator, all the oil changes all myself. The only thing that has slowed down was not having the right tools.

God knows how much that would have cost at the dealer or an indy even. You can save so much money by doing it yourself.
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      04-10-2019, 08:48 AM   #31
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You're right, it really isn't. All you need are the right tools. I've done the spark plugs, coils, cleaned the vanos solenoids, replaced the alternator regulator, all the oil changes all myself. The only thing that has slowed down was not having the right tools.

God knows how much that would have cost at the dealer or an indy even. You can save so much money by doing it yourself.
But the point is most of those items are regular service for any gasoline-powered car post 100,000 miles. The OP would cry with cars from the 1960s and 1970s.

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typical delmarco post.. nothing to see here, move along.

My 'repair' costs over the last 5 years have been minuscule (at 145k miles now). I did the belt tensioner ($65), one coil ($50), an angel eye bulb ($50 for a pair of LEDs), the waterpump (under $200), and uhh... that's it. By far the most expensive things have been gas and tires (I'm on my 3rd set now).

I've also been paid out like $4k from insurance - once for hitting a deer (broke a headlight, otherwise damage was minimal), and recently somebody tapped me from behind (need a new bumper cover, anyone got a clean TI silver, single exhaust?). So actually I'm still in the negative overall, lol.
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      04-10-2019, 09:33 AM   #33
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I think location makes a big difference. Seeing you are in the northeast, you will run into both extremes of the weather, potholes, salt, more stop and go city traffic etc.

My first BMW was a E46 and it had its list of dreadful issues (ccv change, water pump failure, Vanos seals, DISA valve, etc.) It was bought from NY and I think that played a major role on its components failing early on. My second car was a 2011 335is purchased at 46K and driven till 72K until it was totaled. In between that time span I had no major failures except for oil filter housing gasket and a couple coils. And the IS runs more boost then a stock N54. But the car was a FL car that never saw anything past Atlanta. However, just because nothing failed on it didn't mean I didn't do maintenance on it. I still changed the water pump and T-stat as preventive maintenance at 68k miles, brakes, rotors, all fluid flushes etc.

I am now on my 2nd IS (2013 model from the south) and so far (knock on wood) its been running great being FBO and all without any failures.

To sum it up past history of the car and the location its been impacts how soon things will fail and how often.
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      04-10-2019, 10:24 AM   #34
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conversely my e91 is at 143k miles and the only non wear parts replaced have been valve cover, OFHG and starter.

still has it's factory water pump.
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Remember the n54 was the first mass produced turbo engine they produced and it introduced many new or early development technologies like direct injection, of course it will be unreliable even if Toyota were to do the same except they never would.
toyota did...its called the 2jz lol.
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      04-10-2019, 10:37 AM   #36
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the 2JZ weighs 2.5x as much and gets half the fuel efficiency, it also doesn't have direct injection or electronically controlled twin turbos. It's like Toyota took a tractor engine and put an old-school turbo on it, there's nothing really inherently impressive about it..
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toyota did...its called the 2jz lol.
no, they didn't.

the 2j used a host of already proven technologies, was massively overbuilt and heavy, and didn't perform that great from the factory.
sequential turbos sucked.
they popped timing pensioners and oil seals.
sweet jeebus the vacuum lines everywhere!

What all the 2j lovers need to realize is that when the engine came out in the 80's it wasn't that great.

15 years of aftermarket development is why we remember the 2j from the 90's quite fondly.
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no, they didn't.

the 2j used a host of already proven technologies, was massively overbuilt and heavy, and didn't perform that great from the factory.
sequential turbos sucked.
they popped timing pensioners and oil seals.
sweet jeebus the vacuum lines everywhere!

What all the 2j lovers need to realize is that when the engine came out in the 80's it wasn't that great.

15 years of aftermarket development is why we remember the 2j from the 90's quite fondly.
The n54 was basically a modded n52 from the factory.

the 2jz was mass produced and reliable.

i havent met anyone with reliablility issues with a stock 2jz.

when your trying to mod it to 2000whp..then yes you cant expect it to be reliable.
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The post originator drives an n54 335i.
Possibly the most troublesome BMW ever.




'nuff said.
I would argue the N63 seems to be worst after watching a video on it.
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      04-10-2019, 11:34 AM   #40
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The post originator drives an n54 335i.
Possibly the most troublesome BMW ever.




'nuff said.
the op has a N55
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      04-10-2019, 11:45 AM   #41
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My 2011 N55 E90 has 104,000, is daily driven and nothing really has failed outside of normal wear and tear items. The only annoying failure has been that I am on my third coolant reservoirs, and my radiator fan failed ($$$) but the reservoir issue is not BMW specific, plastic coolant reservoirs cracking in South Texas is common.

As for unreliability, you can't judge that from people buying these cars used with limited to no maintenance history.
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Jeezus you again with this bullshit... You come on here acting like an expert and all you do is give bad advice and make shitty videos. Your total BMW experience has been what 3 cars? Really??

You buy an 8 year old turbo motor and complain that its expensive and disposable compared to a 318 from the 90's and and 330 e46? Seriously?? Aren't you the guy who spent $300+ (thats probably on the low side) on a stupid DCT shift knob retrofit that is purely cosmetic, just to look... what... newer?

Yes the n54/55 is a bit of a finicky motor has some PM that needs to be addressed but I see many lasting into the 200k range with proper maintenance. If you had really wanted a proper, reliable e90, doing the right research from the get go and buying an n52 would have been the smart move. Your would probably be singing a different tune about the "disposable" nature of BMW's these days.
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I just had another thought....

The N54/55 is what it is... A great tuner motor... crazy HP potential (n54), and mostly reliable when properly cared for (n55).

I've had some tuner motors before... couple ford ecoboosts, couple mistubishis, a subaru... honestly they were probably worse than an n54/55. The mitsubishi's all got the full bolt on treatment, they were cheap and shit broke all the time. I had one making over 500 WHP that literally cost me less then 6K to build (motor) and lasted 40k before more stuff started breaking. My subi was mostly stock and went through 2 turbos before 100k.

My latest path of tuner motors have been in my fords as of lately. I've had 4 ecoboosts now since they came out. 2015 F-150 with the 3.5, got 100K out of it and it was fantastic... next one was my '16 Ford Fusion DD, company car, stock except for a Cobb tune, made about 300 BHP, I had it exactly 14 months (8 months with the tune) I mile'd it out at 65K. It had over 8K in warranty work to the engine and drivetrain (mostly trans issues from the factory) Still loved that car, but would never own one out of warranty. I then got a '17 F-150 with the 2.7 ecoboost, totally stock. Mouse ate some wiring after the Forrest fires when it was 3 months old... 6.5k for a new wiring harness, insurance paid... owned it for 15 months and at 72K it developed a shake and shimmy that I couldn't figure out while at a stoplight. Took it in and Ford says it needs a full motor replacement out of warranty which ran up a tab to the tune of 15k in parts and 6-8K in labor. Ford then gave me the option to try and swap heads and machine the block for around 8K. Remember this is a 1 year old car that is still on lease and that just passed out of warranty. I made a big stink and Ford NA took care of me... but it did require me to use retained legal services ($$$$)... in the end they bought the truck back and I now have a 2019 with the 3.5 Ecoboost.

My point is Turbo cars present many more issues than a NA car (they really always have since the get go.) To lump BMW into this "disposable" car talk because you bought an unreliable motor with questionable history is straight up click bait and bullshit. Get out and experience more before you try to act like an expert.

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Jeezus you again with this bullshit... You come on here acting like an expert and all you do is give bad advice and make shitty videos. Your total BMW experience has been what 3 cars? Really??

You buy an 8 year old turbo motor and complain that its expensive and disposable compared to a 318 from the 90's and and 330 e46? Seriously?? Aren't you the guy who spent $300+ (thats probably on the low side) on a stupid DCT shift knob retrofit that is purely cosmetic, just to look... what... newer?

Yes the n54/55 is a bit of a finicky motor has some PM that needs to be addressed but I see many lasting into the 200k range with proper maintenance. If you had really wanted a proper, reliable e90, doing the right research from the get go and buying an n52 would have been the smart move. Your would probably be singing a different tune about the "disposable" nature of BMW's these days.
Still he has provided more information on his posts than your post here. All you do is bash.. A 5 year old can do the same..
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