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      04-26-2007, 01:00 AM   #23
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mbklasse.com and mbworld.org are more places where they have screwed over many people...... search for them and you will find numerous threads.

EUROPASSION SUCKS WITH A PASSION! HAHA

I hope this thread gets indexd by google so when people search for their crap they can see the truth. Like longtran said, theres a reason that they are so cheap and if its to good to be true it usually is.
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      04-27-2007, 11:48 AM   #26
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i dont know why you guys dont leave feedbacks for felix.
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      04-27-2007, 12:34 PM   #27
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The itrader tool sucks on this forum. It wants an E90 post link. I have several mboworld.org link to his crap and I cant warn other about his shady business practices.
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      04-27-2007, 02:09 PM   #28
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The itrader tool sucks on this forum. It wants an E90 post link. I have several mboworld.org link to his crap and I cant warn other about his shady business practices.
then link the GB link.
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      04-27-2007, 02:32 PM   #29
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then link the GB link.
A lot of people, like me, may be waiting to see their stuff and how they fit.
While the experience so far is not good, he hasn't cheated anyone of their
money so I reserve judgement and feedback until those darn things arrive
at my door, see how they fit and how the paint job is. There is plenty of
recovering that can be done if those things arrive and are perfect. This
doesn't mean that people shouldn't have taken measures to protect their
money. I am a businessman and I have since I see this purely for what it
is - business. But I don't know about the others. A lot of people jumped on
my case when I pointed out a few things which turned out to be right. Most
nobody "remembers" since the first thread was allowed to be deleted and
the new one had everything changed about it. Oh well...
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A lot of people, like me, may be waiting to see their stuff and how they fit.
While the experience so far is not good, he hasn't cheated anyone of their
money so I reserve judgement and feedback until those darn things arrive
at my door, see how they fit and how the paint job is. There is plenty of
recovering that can be done if those things arrive and are perfect. This
doesn't mean that people shouldn't have taken measures to protect their
money. I am a businessman and I have since I see this purely for what it
is - business. But I don't know about the others. A lot of people jumped on
my case when I pointed out a few things which turned out to be right. Most
nobody "remembers" since the first thread was allowed to be deleted and
the new one had everything changed about it. Oh well...


+1
I wanna see what's going on first before I go in a stir up the dirt.
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      04-27-2007, 04:38 PM   #31
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A lot of people, like me, may be waiting to see their stuff and how they fit.
While the experience so far is not good, he hasn't cheated anyone of their
money so I reserve judgement and feedback until those darn things arrive
at my door, see how they fit and how the paint job is. There is plenty of
recovering that can be done if those things arrive and are perfect. This
doesn't mean that people shouldn't have taken measures to protect their
money. I am a businessman and I have since I see this purely for what it
is - business. But I don't know about the others. A lot of people jumped on
my case when I pointed out a few things which turned out to be right. Most
nobody "remembers" since the first thread was allowed to be deleted and
the new one had everything changed about it. Oh well...
if the paint and fitment is off, good luck. ill bet he isnt replacing anything anytime soon. why do u think he keeps on emphasizing, damage in shipping is not his responsibility.
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if the paint and fitment is off, good luck. ill bet he isnt replacing anything anytime soon. why do u think he keeps on emphasizing, damage in shipping is not his responsibility.
Good luck with what? Did you read my post that I've taken measures to
protect my money?
As far as I am concerned, I don't care even if it comes in pieces or painted
neon prurple. It will be his loss.
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A lot of people, like me, may be waiting to see their stuff and how they fit.
While the experience so far is not good, he hasn't cheated anyone of their
money so I reserve judgement and feedback until those darn things arrive
at my door, see how they fit and how the paint job is. There is plenty of
recovering that can be done if those things arrive and are perfect. This
doesn't mean that people shouldn't have taken measures to protect their
money. I am a businessman and I have since I see this purely for what it
is - business. But I don't know about the others. A lot of people jumped on
my case when I pointed out a few things which turned out to be right. Most
nobody "remembers" since the first thread was allowed to be deleted and
the new one had everything changed about it. Oh well...
so he charged you x amount for air shipping and it took forever to get. you will still be satisfy that when you get the product (if it fits well), you will be happy??? what a smart buisness man.
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      04-27-2007, 06:03 PM   #34
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so he charged you x amount for air shipping and it took forever to get. you will still be satisfy that when you get the product (if it fits well), you will be happy??? what a smart buisness man.
I suggest you read my post carefully before you make silly sarcastic
remarks . Here are a few key things I said which you've obiously
missed:

"the experience so far is not good"

"there is plenty of recovering that can be done if those things arrive
and are perfect". You interpretted that one as me saying I will be totally
happy with how he conducted himself - wrong. Your assumption and
interpretation are incorrect.

"I am a businessman and as such I have protected my money". For all
I care he can choose not to send the stuff at all. I won't be losing out
of this. And if I choose to I will ask not to pay for air shipping and it
will happen. You think that is not smart?

"I reserve judgement and feedback until those darn things arrive". I am
not an impulsive 18 yr old neither I act on emotion when I do business.

Bottom line is I am happy because I am covered whatever I choose to
do. So yeah I call that smart because you couldn't have achieved that
for yourself so find someone else to be mean/sarcastic about this
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shadow u didnt say anywhere in the previous post that you've taken measures to protect ur money.

edit: ok your wording is confusing, thats why no one got it. good for you that you have the option of keeping ur money. others dont, what is wrong with warning them?

you said, "This
doesn't mean that people shouldn't have taken measures to protect their
money. "

what is "this" exactly?
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A lot of people, like me, may be waiting to see their stuff and how they fit.
While the experience so far is not good, he hasn't cheated anyone of their
money so I reserve judgement and feedback until those darn things arrive
at my door, see how they fit and how the paint job is. There is plenty of
recovering that can be done if those things arrive and are perfect. This
doesn't mean that people shouldn't have taken measures to protect their
money. I am a businessman and I have since I see this purely for what it
is - business. But I don't know about the others. A lot of people jumped on
my case when I pointed out a few things which turned out to be right. Most
nobody "remembers" since the first thread was allowed to be deleted and
the new one had everything changed about it. Oh well...
Errr ... he cheated people on shipping ... Felix said the lips would be shipped by air which means it was suppose to get here faster. A lot of people paid for that service and did not receive it. Would you call that cheating people?

If not, in my eyes, you are a terrible businessman and I would hate to have to have business dealings with you.
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Good luck with what? Did you read my post that I've taken measures to
protect my money?
As far as I am concerned, I don't care even if it comes in pieces or painted
neon prurple. It will be his loss.
Uhh you don't care if it comes or its wrong, I can't believe you are a "smart businessman."

Even if you protected your money, which I am guessing you are saying that you didn't get charged. Are you still going to take the lip and keep the money when it comes to you neon purple?
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shadow u didnt say anywhere in the previous post that you've taken measures to protect ur money.

edit: ok your wording is confusing, thats why no one got it. good for you that you have the option of keeping ur money. others dont, what is wrong with warning them?
Absolutely nothing wrong with warning them. All I said is that I reserve my final
word until/if I get the lip. That's all. So I can provide accurate and objective
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Errr ... he cheated people on shipping ... Felix said the lips would be shipped by air which means it was suppose to get here faster. A lot of people paid for that service and did not receive it. Would you call that cheating people?

If not, in my eyes, you are a terrible businessman and I would hate to have to have business dealings with you.
Without defending Felix, you got that wrong. He didn't lie about the air
shipping or how long air shipping takes. What he lied about is when he
said he was going to ship them, when he said he had already shipped them
and when he actually did all that. Is he a terrible businessman? No doubt
about that. Did he handle this whole thing in the worse possible way? You
bet. Are his products good? Did his shop do a good job and the paint job
is perfect? I don't know. So personally, I can't speak for all that until/if I
get it. And I'd like to give a complete feedback.
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Just out of curiousity, have any of you filed a dispute in paypal? I havent made any dispute yet and it has been over 45 days since I paypaled Felix the funds. Do you guys know if I could still file a dispute past the 45 days limit?

With all this sh$T going on, I am just really concern about the quality of the kits
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A lot of the guys that is involved in this GB are just waiting for all this to get resolve, after that i guarantee you they will be giving feedbacks coz u know Felix is still reading all this shit. He's just not logged on. He's just pretending to be gone, but actually still here monitoring. Right, Felix?
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I think I lost 750 Canadian dollars... omg... I checked the shipping bill and my product is not on the list... I am like wtf... I dunno what to do now... Paypal seems like wont take care of it since my payment is over 45 days...
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Without defending Felix, you got that wrong. He didn't lie about the air
shipping or how long air shipping takes. What he lied about is when he
said he was going to ship them, when he said he had already shipped them
and when he actually did all that. Is he a terrible businessman? No doubt
about that. Did he handle this whole thing in the worse possible way? You
bet. Are his products good? Did his shop do a good job and the paint job
is perfect? I don't know. So personally, I can't speak for all that until/if I
get it. And I'd like to give a complete feedback.
To me, if a businessman lies about one part of his business, that in the whole says a lot about his business. You are thinking about the parts, but I guess you don't care about the other side to his business which is customer service. I guess maybe its reasonable to you, food at a restaurant is great but the service sucks.

I am saying when that happens to me, I stop going to the restaurant cause to me, I don't care if your food makes me poop gold bricks, if your attitude and service sucks, it speaks a lot for your way of doing business.

For me, I don't separate the product from customer service cause it all comes from one place.
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To me, if a businessman lies about one part of his business, that in the whole says a lot about his business. You are thinking about the parts, but I guess you don't care about the other side to his business which is customer service. I guess maybe its reasonable to you, food at a restaurant is great but the service sucks.

I am saying when that happens to me, I stop going to the restaurant cause to me, I don't care if your food makes me poop gold bricks, if your attitude and service sucks, it speaks a lot for your way of doing business.

For me, I don't separate the product from customer service cause it all comes from one place.
People have a tendency in this forum, not to read what other write but
comment blindly. You say it's reasonable to me and I don't care about
the other side of his business which is customer service. And here is
what I wrote. Tell me which part isn't clear to you and where do you get
the idea from what I said, that I thought the other side of his business
which is customer service, was good:

"What he lied about is when he said he was going to ship them, when he
said he had already shipped them and when he actually did all that. Is he
a terrible businessman? No doubt about that. Did he handle this whole
thing in the worse possible way? You bet."
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