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      06-06-2007, 09:03 AM   #89
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I was just getting used to the Proceded 335i I have. Ahhh... Now another step WITHOUT having to buy anything. How you Xede guys feeling now? Shiv... Get driving man. You don't need sleep. Just pile a couple thousand miles onto the car. If all looks good... WE'RE READY!
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      06-06-2007, 09:35 AM   #90
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I can't wait to see what our Euro friends can do on the autobahns with this monster. Small point on the effect of the exhaust: whp increased by 85 over stock vs. 100 with exhaust. And torque up by 105 ft/lbs vs. 125. It will be interesting to see what the Beta testers with stock exhausts get. I am a bit concerned that the Vishnu exhaust could be used as a tell-tale for dealers wanting to void warranties. Regardless, absolutely phenomenal results. Especially the enhancement of the higher rpm band.

I would echo the opinions of those that suggest one needs to seriously consider what other mods need to be made in concert with the PROcede. Let me put it this way: I think you would have to be freaking nuts to install PROcede on a non-ZSP 335. Further, I think it highly adviseable to have some professional suspension work, and probably a LSD, at these power levels.
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      06-06-2007, 09:47 AM   #91
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As a former wrx owner who knew that car inside and out, I know what goes into tuning. The tune with these new cars is the most important part. It is what can make a car last with no problems. It seems Shiv you are putting all the effort to ensure great tunes for your customers and that is awesome. Terry you are so wrong with just turning up the boost. There are many things that go into a tune, and the boost is just one little aspect. Any person who knows anything about tuning, say evo owners, wrx owners, know that just turning up boost can cause more problems than anything. You have to tune everything else, to make the car run right. Shiv keep it up, and once I get this car, I will definately be a new owner of this product.

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      06-06-2007, 09:59 AM   #92
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Just moved to Gemany.. Ready to do some autobahn testing. Just got my 335i Coupe. Im wondering if i have the Sport package? I know i have the sport seats and steering etc.. but im not sure if i have the Upgrade oil cooler or the ZSP package,.. any way i can tell?

Cant wait to runn 97 to 100 octane maps on our super expensive but high octane gas out here

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Thanks!

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      06-06-2007, 10:03 AM   #93
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Note that the octane rating system is different in Euro than USA. Check threads for oil cooler -- look under passenger side wheel well at front, you will see slots and radiator if you have it. Be careful. Take your time learning how to drive at high speeds.
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      06-06-2007, 10:10 AM   #94
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Out of my vague ignorance this means 400whp+ with modified intake, downpipes, cats and intercooler?

Maybe, Maybe not. You cannot look at mods as totally additive. Some shift powerbands, some subtract when added to an optimized system, and some just dont need to be added. Many times we see a car with a standard package with added trinkets that simply do not make the power or retain the driving characteristics of the package the customer built upon. Hope that helps a bit.
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      06-06-2007, 10:32 AM   #95
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Was how much more boost it's running mentioned yet? I just skimmed through and didn't see it
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      06-06-2007, 10:53 AM   #96
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Well my morning just got better.... here I am tired as hell at work and wanting to go home and then I read this.

Good fuckin shit! Those are substantial numbers over the V1.45 and I can not wait.

Great Job Shiv, now im just waiting for that email. charlie.ashby@homeloancenter.com thanks! hahah

Sherwin, after this update we have some damage to go do~
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      06-06-2007, 10:59 AM   #97
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Shiv...if version 2.0 is an improvement over my current 1.45 map then sign me up.
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As a former wrx owner who knew that car inside and out, I know what goes into tuning. The tune with these new cars is the most important part. It is what can make a car last with no problems. It seems Shiv you are putting all the effort to ensure great tunes for your customers and that is awesome. Terry you are so wrong with just turning up the boost. There are many things that go into a tune, and the boost is just one little aspect. Any person who knows anything about tuning, say evo owners, wrx owners, know that just turning up boost can cause more problems than anything. You have to tune everything else, to make the car run right. Shiv keep it up, and once I get this car, I will definately be a new owner of this product.

Chris

That comment was based on the assumption that it was a software only update (what he had been saying all along), but since its a little more it makes sense that this is a combination of more boost and ...
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      06-06-2007, 11:03 AM   #99
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Wow - thats impressive 90 hp on pump gas - I cant wait until its out...and i dont even have my procede yet - hopefully its comming today.

PUT ME on the list for v 2.0 I cant wait
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      06-06-2007, 11:04 AM   #100
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Oh Shiv, you're a competent tuner but the self-promotion and marketing BS makes it hard to take you seriously. I suppose it's fortunate you broke in to the BMW and Porsche markets; I doubt the Subaru guys are naive enough to fall for this dialog…
At least we know when we're being marketed to here. What's scary is when we don't know when marketing is in full active mode.

BTW, if the marketing here raises your hackels, commercial television must really chap your hide.
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So are you now saying that it is more then just boost? Because if you are, you are finally getting what a real tune is all about. Btw I hope if you are just turning up the boost on your car, that you are careful. Doing that to many turbo cars and cause many issues. I know it does in the wrx world anyways.

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      06-06-2007, 11:08 AM   #102
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So are you now saying that it is more then just boost? Because if you are, you are finally getting what a real tune is all about. Btw I hope if you are just turning up the boost on your car, that you are careful. Doing that to many turbo cars and cause many issues. I know it does in the wrx world anyways.

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The PROcede has always been more than just turning up boost superman

Edit: Nevermind I saw that was towards Terry
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      06-06-2007, 11:09 AM   #103
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"actions speak louder than words"

OMG Shiv you did it again, Thank You on behalf of everyone here in E90post and all the current and future Procede owners.... let the fun begin
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So are you now saying that it is more then just boost? Because if you are, you are finally getting what a real tune is all about. Btw I hope if you are just turning up the boost on your car, that you are careful. Doing that to many turbo cars and cause many issues. I know it does in the wrx world anyways.

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      06-06-2007, 11:12 AM   #105
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At least we know when we're being marketed to here. What's scary is when we don't know when marketing is in full active mode.

BTW, if the marketing here raises your hackels, commercial television must really chap your hide.
The DVR helps with that, but those damn telemarketers really get me going...
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      06-06-2007, 11:12 AM   #106
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Straz 335, i know that procede has been more than turning up boost, I am telling terry that. That is why in my previous post I talked about how a tune is more then just boost.

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      06-06-2007, 11:42 AM   #107
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Top end power roll off isn't really a "problem". It's just how the car is cammed and how the turbos are sized. Both of which define an engine's pumping efficiency (VE) ...

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It seems Shiv got contol over the vanos now. If so, what a great achievement.
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      06-06-2007, 12:16 PM   #108
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Nice , hopefully, my procced is coming in today
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It's great to see a Company that sets itself apart by the continual improvement their product.
Thanks, Shiv. Awesome Job Vishnu!

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      06-06-2007, 12:41 PM   #110
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Shiv, so it makes 376 Hp with 93 octane + Exhaust.

What are the expected gains for:
- 91 Octane w/o exhaust
- 91 Octane w/ exhaust
- 93 Octane w/o exhaust

The majority will not have an exhaust so please let us know the approximate gains... Thanks
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