PRocede v4: CAN-based Naturally Aspirated mode

maui86 · 01-29-2010, 12:21 AM

this would be sweet because on cold starts the waste gates rattle like no other for the first 30-45secs till the exhaust flap opens then it goes away. i figure, have this as a default map so i dont have to listen to that crap in the morning or late at night.

cant wait for this to happen!

teri

huyner328 · 01-29-2010, 12:43 AM

Very nice! Innovation ftw.

OpenFlash · 01-29-2010, 12:46 AM

The NA mode will be easy to implement thanks to absolute (non-piggyback) wastegate control and CAN integration. We just want to finish wrapping up the v4 performance bits and user adjustables first. So probably 2-3 weeks out.

Shiv

baltik · 01-29-2010, 01:28 AM

I would rather have an honest to god procede bypass - 0 signal modification by the PROCEDE just log in and enable the mode on your way to the dealership - no reason to suspect there is anything in the ECU compartment, would be perfect for minor service like oil changes

baltik · 02-01-2010, 08:19 AM

bump

stressdoc · 02-01-2010, 09:11 AM

Combined with a couple extra pounds of pressure in the tires for during the week commutes (or long trips), an extra 4mpg could pay for the Procede in 5 years. But you would have to use the eco mode most of the time. Even if you just used it a third of the time it could help pay for some additional mods...

WilliamE92 · 02-01-2010, 07:47 PM

Oh my god this is the best idea

Keep the turbos from boosting while its warming up then crank it up!

GreenPlease · 02-01-2010, 09:16 PM

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Combined with a couple extra pounds of pressure in the tires for during the week commutes (or long trips), an extra 4mpg could pay for the Procede in 5 years. But you would have to use the eco mode most of the time. Even if you just used it a third of the time it could help pay for some additional mods...

As much as I drive, I could pay for the tune in about 3 years

@Shiv

Could we toggle between NA and FI on the fly?

Panoz · 07-24-2010, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

The NA mode will be easy to implement thanks to absolute (non-piggyback) wastegate control and CAN integration. We just want to finish wrapping up the v4 performance bits and user adjustables first. So probably 2-3 weeks out.

Shiv

What happened with this one? I dont think it ever happened...right?

hotrod182 · 07-24-2010, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Saigon

this perfect for me, everyone want to go fast in jb3 i just want my mpg i miss my 26avg on my previous 328 lol

Quite interesting. I drove 200 miles round trip from Vent County to Fontana in a 2010 328i, averaged 26mpg. Did the same trip in my 335i 2 days later and got 32mpg. I think perhaps I was driving the 335i a little more conservatively considering the 328i has to be floored to just keep up with traffic at times! But seriously, many others have recorded over 30mpg in their tuned 335i BMWs (keeping off the boost). I really believe the DI is inherently more efficient than the 328i setup. FYI...the new 335i N55 EPA Hwy rating is exactly the same as the 328i. 28mpg I believe.

forza1976 · 07-24-2010, 09:49 AM

Please implement

OpenFlash · 07-24-2010, 10:32 AM

Very easy to implement but there are some more useful and functional features we are working on now. Once they are done, I suppose would add another map to the mix that offers exciting NA performance for those who want to feel what a 150hp n54 feels like.

stratplaya06 · 07-24-2010, 10:39 AM

Lately I have challenged myself to stay in vacuum all the time while I drive to see what kind of mileage I can get, and my last fillup I got 27mpg with mixed driving! It was incredible!

Please implement this map, Shiv! It would be a feature that I know I would use every single day on my 50+ mile commute. I love showing people the incredible mileage figures this car can make, and then burying the pedal only to be slammed back into our seats.

boostd92 · 07-24-2010, 10:47 AM

If you make this another map, will the autotune map have to re-learn each time you switch back and forth?

It's an interesting option to have. I'd use it as a daily driving mode, but if I saw an interesting race possibility, it'd be kinda useless as I'd have to switch maps (not hard) but the autotuned map would only give me pre-learned low boost, right?

TakeOne · 07-24-2010, 10:52 AM

Same here.

Took a 331.6 mile long trip (actually longer, but this where i reset the trip at the gas station) Filled up with a full tank and drove about 55 miles. Stopped and picked up two passengers. Front passenger weighs about 160ish, rear passenger probably weighs 200ish.
Most of the trip was with the windows down, except for the last 20-30 miles, then used A/C to keep the windows from foggin up.

On the drive back, it was just me.
Mostly with the windows down, except for about 10-20 miles (then used a/c)
The dash was saying <30 miles for fuel.
Pulled into the exact same station and pump, and it took 12.354 gallons

331.6 / 12.354 = 26.84 mpg! To say the least, im impressed!
Towing an extra 360 pounds for about 110miles using a little a/c for about 30-50 miles all while pushin a little boost after toll booth stops. I'm happy with that!

bimmerboy · 07-24-2010, 11:11 AM

how is this different than a valet mode map, where no boost is made?

mkiv · 07-24-2010, 11:19 AM

sounds good shiv!
but please make it to map3 or something...we need current valet map for dealer visits...

BrianMN · 07-24-2010, 11:29 AM

I would love this!!!!

scottp999 · 07-24-2010, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by bimmerboy

how is this different than a valet mode map, where no boost is made?

The original valet idea was a stock map, so 8-9psi on average depending on ambient temps.

Jeff@TopGearSolutions · 07-24-2010, 11:52 AM

If it sounds like an E36 Im in....

TwinTurboXI · 07-24-2010, 12:11 PM

That would be awsome... I'm anxiously waiting for my V4 to come in...

BrianMN · 07-24-2010, 12:19 PM

I'm SOOOOOO happy with my upgrade to v4!

01-29-2010, 12:21 AM	#45
maui86 Captain 37 Rep 738 Posts Drives: 07 335i Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: paradise iTrader: (1)	this would be sweet because on cold starts the waste gates rattle like no other for the first 30-45secs till the exhaust flap opens then it goes away. i figure, have this as a default map so i dont have to listen to that crap in the morning or late at night. cant wait for this to happen! teri __________________ http://videos.streetfire.net/video/s...rays_37268.htm gotta do what i gotta do to get them donuts 04 spec-v: rip dec07
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01-29-2010, 12:43 AM	#46
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01-29-2010, 12:46 AM	#47
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01-29-2010, 01:28 AM	#48
baltik Lieutenant 25 Rep 434 Posts Drives: porsche 944 turbo Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: 94920 iTrader: (0)	I would rather have an honest to god procede bypass - 0 signal modification by the PROCEDE just log in and enable the mode on your way to the dealership - no reason to suspect there is anything in the ECU compartment, would be perfect for minor service like oil changes
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02-01-2010, 08:19 AM	#49
baltik Lieutenant 25 Rep 434 Posts Drives: porsche 944 turbo Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: 94920 iTrader: (0)	bump
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02-01-2010, 09:11 AM	#50
stressdoc Moderator 618 Rep 10,855 Posts Drives: BMW i8; Toy 4runner TRD pro Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Waco TX iTrader: (0)	Combined with a couple extra pounds of pressure in the tires for during the week commutes (or long trips), an extra 4mpg could pay for the Procede in 5 years. But you would have to use the eco mode most of the time. Even if you just used it a third of the time it could help pay for some additional mods... __________________ My recent ED photos: http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1026808 my not-so-recent ED: http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31829 Please join BMWCCA http://bmwcca.org/index.php?pageid=c...&ref_by=300279
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02-01-2010, 07:47 PM	#51
WilliamE92 First Lieutenant 21 Rep 318 Posts Drives: 2013 EB F30 335 MT Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: CA iTrader: (1)	Oh my god this is the best idea Keep the turbos from boosting while its warming up then crank it up!
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07-24-2010, 09:49 AM	#55
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07-24-2010, 10:32 AM	#56
OpenFlash 1737 Rep 17,960 Posts Drives: A Lot Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: SF Bay, CA iTrader: (0) Garage List 2018 Ducati Panigal ... [0.00] 2016 Mazda CX5 [0.00] 2017 Aprilia Tuono ... [0.00] 2019 BMW M2 Competi ... [0.00] 2015 BMW M5 Competi ... [10.00] 2016 Ducati XDiavel S [0.00] 2016 AMG GT S [0.00] 2011 Ferrari 458 It ... [0.00] 2017 Charger Hellcat [0.00] 2015 KTM Super Duke ... [0.00] 2016 KTM RC390 [0.00]	Very easy to implement but there are some more useful and functional features we are working on now. Once they are done, I suppose would add another map to the mix that offers exciting NA performance for those who want to feel what a 150hp n54 feels like.
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07-24-2010, 10:39 AM	#57
stratplaya06 Captain 46 Rep 967 Posts Drives: 2008 E92 335xi-SOLD 5.0 Miata Join Date: May 2008 Location: Maryland iTrader: (10)	Lately I have challenged myself to stay in vacuum all the time while I drive to see what kind of mileage I can get, and my last fillup I got 27mpg with mixed driving! It was incredible! Please implement this map, Shiv! It would be a feature that I know I would use every single day on my 50+ mile commute. I love showing people the incredible mileage figures this car can make, and then burying the pedal only to be slammed back into our seats. __________________ \| PROcede Rev3 \| Vishnu Meth \| DCI \| BMW Perf. Exhaust \| AR Coated/Catless \| CP-E FMIC \| Quaife \|
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07-24-2010, 10:47 AM	#58
boostd92 Captain 62 Rep 759 Posts Drives: '11 E92 M-Sport Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Chicago, IL iTrader: (1) Garage List 2011 BMW 335i M-Spo ... [7.26]	If you make this another map, will the autotune map have to re-learn each time you switch back and forth? It's an interesting option to have. I'd use it as a daily driving mode, but if I saw an interesting race possibility, it'd be kinda useless as I'd have to switch maps (not hard) but the autotuned map would only give me pre-learned low boost, right?
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07-24-2010, 10:52 AM	#59
TakeOne Just1MoreMod 353 Rep 712 Posts Drives: F80 M3, F48 X1 Join Date: May 2008 Location: mid-atlantic iTrader: (7)	Same here. Took a 331.6 mile long trip (actually longer, but this where i reset the trip at the gas station) Filled up with a full tank and drove about 55 miles. Stopped and picked up two passengers. Front passenger weighs about 160ish, rear passenger probably weighs 200ish. Most of the trip was with the windows down, except for the last 20-30 miles, then used A/C to keep the windows from foggin up. On the drive back, it was just me. Mostly with the windows down, except for about 10-20 miles (then used a/c) The dash was saying <30 miles for fuel. Pulled into the exact same station and pump, and it took 12.354 gallons 331.6 / 12.354 = 26.84 mpg! To say the least, im impressed! Towing an extra 360 pounds for about 110miles using a little a/c for about 30-50 miles all while pushin a little boost after toll booth stops. I'm happy with that! __________________ Stage 3 - Pure Turbo F80 M3 Dinan Infested F48 X1
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07-24-2010, 11:11 AM	#60
bimmerboy Captain 23 Rep 601 Posts Drives: 135i Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Bay Area iTrader: (0)	how is this different than a valet mode map, where no boost is made? __________________ *--2009 BSM 135i--* -Manual, Sport Package, BMW Assist
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07-24-2010, 11:19 AM	#61
mkiv 2JZ 63 Rep 819 Posts Drives: 16 G500 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: 温哥华Vancouver iTrader: (6)	sounds good shiv! but please make it to map3 or something...we need current valet map for dealer visits... __________________ E92 335i Fully Loaded \| Procede Rev2 \| ETS FMIC \| AR Catless DP \| AFE DCI \| AA BOV \| KW V2 \| iForged Essen \| VRS CF Trunk \| M-Tech Sideskirts \| M-Tech Rear \| Ericsson Front GONE!
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07-24-2010, 11:29 AM	#62
BrianMN Banned 114 Rep 2,428 Posts Drives: 4 Door Family Sedan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Minneapolis iTrader: (7)	I would love this!!!!
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07-24-2010, 11:52 AM	#64
Jeff@TopGearSolutions 3441 Rep 79,211 Posts Drives: C6 Z06, 09 335i, 10 335xi Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: www.TopGearSolutions.com iTrader: (37)	If it sounds like an E36 Im in....
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07-24-2010, 12:11 PM	#65
TwinTurboXI Lieutenant Colonel 160 Rep 1,523 Posts Drives: 2011 135i Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: . iTrader: (12)	That would be awsome... I'm anxiously waiting for my V4 to come in...
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07-24-2010, 12:19 PM	#66
BrianMN Banned 114 Rep 2,428 Posts Drives: 4 Door Family Sedan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Minneapolis iTrader: (7)	I'm SOOOOOO happy with my upgrade to v4!
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