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      02-20-2019, 10:29 PM   #1629
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I have no idea how to. I will be ordering a set, so I suppose if anyone else wanted to jump in, international shipping would go down a bit, but honestly, its not too bad from the get go.
Maybe Groupon, Livingsocial, Gofundme or maybe Facebook has something similar.
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Start a group buy. Honestly I think that these even at $200 are affordable.
I have no idea how to. I will be ordering a set, so I suppose if anyone else wanted to jump in, international shipping would go down a bit, but honestly, its not too bad from the get go.
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So who fitted these(370/380 calipers) at the front with 18" wheels ? I have VMR V810FF and I might have a found a set for a good price.
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Question: If going with the 4 pot fronts w/ 340mm rotors, what rotors do we need for the rear 2 pots? This is with the eccentric mounting bushings swapped in.

What rear rotor would work while keeping the e-brake?

From what I gather, the E60 disc is 345mm so that's a no go.

The reason I want to stick with the 340mm fronts is to retain the use of my 17" winter wheels, a non-M-Sport Brake equipped 335s used 17s.
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Question: If going with the 4 pot fronts w/ 340mm rotors, what rotors do we need for the rear 2 pots? This is with the eccentric mounting bushings swapped in.

What rear rotor would work while keeping the e-brake?

From what I gather, the E60 disc is 345mm so that's a no go.

The reason I want to stick with the 340mm fronts is to retain the use of my 17" winter wheels, a non-M-Sport Brake equipped 335s used 17s.

By swapping out the rear hubs to 135i hubs as mentioned a couple pages back, you can run the F30 rear rotors. You still need the bushings and possibly a couple of washers to make it all line up perfect, but the 135i rear hubs move the mounting location of the rotor 10mm while the caliper mounting location doesn't move. This would allow the F30 rotors to fit and be centered. I cannot take credit for this, but I will be sure to post as many pictures as possible once I get around to installing mine.
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Question: If going with the 4 pot fronts w/ 340mm rotors, what rotors do we need for the rear 2 pots? This is with the eccentric mounting bushings swapped in.

What rear rotor would work while keeping the e-brake?

From what I gather, the E60 disc is 345mm so that's a no go.

The reason I want to stick with the 340mm fronts is to retain the use of my 17" winter wheels, a non-M-Sport Brake equipped 335s used 17s.
The 2 pots won't fit on the rear with 17" 34+ OEM rims. I tried with my winter setup and had to keep my e91 rears on
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So to make sure, we only need 4 bushings, which are for the rear calipers only correct?
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So to make sure, we only need 4 bushings, which are for the rear calipers only correct?
If by "only" you mean do you need bushings for the front, then you are correct. But if you mean does that make them plug and play, then no. You would also need to run the E60 rear zimmerman rotors for the 535i.

What specifically were you referring to?
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If by "only" you mean do you need bushings for the front, then you are correct. But if you mean does that make them plug and play, then no. You would also need to run the E60 rear zimmerman rotors for the 535i.

What specifically were you referring to?
Just making sure the eccentric bushings are used on the back only.
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Just making sure the eccentric bushings are used on the back only.
You are correct!
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When You use 135i e82 hubs and f30 rotors You need eccentric bushes and hard 2.5mm washer between caliper and wheel carier , longer bolts with collar.
You need also set of longer bolts and washers to Center handbrake. Ive got these sets around 65$ with shipping to usa.
If someone already drilled bigger holes in wheel carier ive got also m12 eccentric bushes
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Question: If going with the 4 pot fronts w/ 340mm rotors, what rotors do we need for the rear 2 pots? This is with the eccentric mounting bushings swapped in.

What rear rotor would work while keeping the e-brake?

From what I gather, the E60 disc is 345mm so that's a no go.

The reason I want to stick with the 340mm fronts is to retain the use of my 17" winter wheels, a non-M-Sport Brake equipped 335s used 17s.
wait for it, an e90 with E-Brake?!

all rear rotors are 345mm and that's a no go with 17" wheels, and the only difference between the e60 and f30 is the offset.

I tried 17" on my 335 the first winter, had them off the car in a week and upgraded to 18", the car is simply undriveable with those skinny 225/45/17, it needs at least 255.
No driving on 19" winter tyres and no problems whatsoever with snowy conditions if that's your concern.
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wait for it, an e90 with E-Brake?!

all rear rotors are 345mm and that's a no go with 17" wheels, and the only difference between the e60 and f30 is the offset.

I tried 17" on my 335 the first winter, had them off the car in a week and upgraded to 18", the car is simply undriveable with those skinny 225/45/17, it needs at least 255.
No driving on 19" winter tyres and no problems whatsoever with snowy conditions if that's your concern.
E-brake as in emergency brake, not electronic parking brake. I utilize it all the time and would hate to lose it.

As for being undriveable in the winter on 17s, that makes zero sense. I'm on 205/50/17s with my 328 and it's fantastic in the snow. You want a narrower tire not wider for winter traction to cut through deep snow. I won't get into it here as that's an entirely different discussion documented everywhere not just restricted to BMWs.

I know I can get 19" wheels and tires for winter - trying to avoid that. I suppose I could go with 18s...

And F30 335i came with 17s stock, so yes the non 2NH brake option fits with 17" wheels and the "grey" (aka 340mm rotor equipped) calipers. This would likely end up just being a front conversion though.
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E-brake as in emergency brake, not electronic parking brake. I utilize it all the time and would hate to lose it.

As for being undriveable in the winter on 17s, that makes zero sense. I'm on 205/50/17s with my 328 and it's fantastic in the snow. You want a narrower tire not wider for winter traction to cut through deep snow. I won't get into it here as that's an entirely different discussion documented everywhere not just restricted to BMWs.

I know I can get 19" wheels and tires for winter - trying to avoid that. I suppose I could go with 18s...

And F30 335i came with 17s stock, so yes the non 2NH brake option fits with 17" wheels and the "grey" (aka 340mm rotor equipped) calipers. This would likely end up just being a front conversion though.
my bad, in europe we call it parking brake, that's what confused me..

What I meant with undriveable is that for a spirited driver like me and a car with 300+hp, a narrower tyre has it's upside only in deep snow, in all other situations it's a big downgrade in performance and I simply won't accept that, they have to be on the car almost 6 months where I live, and that's a no go for me, I live near the Alps and drive often in snow conditions, I never got stuck with 225/35/19 - 255/30/19.

But to each his own, if you are satisfied with a 205 tyre, who am I to judge you?

EDIT: I see now you're from Canada, scratch everything I said, you need snow traction.. XD



Back on topic, if you have a 6cyl e9x, you won't have any problems with your E-brake, it's practically a plug and play solution with the bushings, even if you have a 4cyl there is a solution..

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Yeah for sure, all depends on what your needs are from your tires. I had 225/45/17 Dunlop Wintersport 3D on my old 410whp 470qwtq 335i. It was great and never let me down in snowstorms and blizzards on 8hr roadtrips between Toronto and Chicago and still held its own on dry days when I wanted to open it up.

I plan on getting those bushings as another member is working on setting up some sort of group buy and will go from there. I know the 370mm setup will clear 18s front and rear, as my summer wheels are F80 18s anyways so that takes all the guesswork out.

I'm still unclear on what rotors I need for the rears with the 370 fronts to retain my parking brake - assuming those eccentric bushings are all I need for the calipers to mount up.
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I'm still unclear on what rotors I need for the rears with the 370 fronts to retain my parking brake - assuming those eccentric bushings are all I need for the calipers to mount up.
Hereīs the link to my original post when I mounted the rears, you can clearly see that everything works perfectly with the e60 rotor / bushings, and yeah, itīs simple like that..

https://www.e90post.com/forums/showp...postcount=1440


You will be mounting a 345mm disk on the rears, the inner drum dimension that is important for the handbrake is the same on 6zyl e90/e60/f30, the only difference is the offset and in case of the e90 disk, smaller surface.
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It's a parking brake. Not an emergency brake. I use 19" winter. 255/40-19 on the rear. My track tires are 18" rear 275/35-18. I won't run 17". Not because is 335i. Fitment is hideous. Narrow tires are better. Sure. But if too narrow for vehicle size and engine output?
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Is there a list of OEM 18s that will fit over the 370mm F3x brakes? Any idea if the 364 alloys off the F10/F11 would fit? Thanks.
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Damn this thread! I am now hunting for a good deal on some 513M wheels from a F80. hahaha. I don't want to go aftermarket. I am also curious to see what other 18" and 19" OEM wheels fit.
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M3 e9x 18" and M3 f3x 18" clear the 370mm
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I'm the first who did this mode and this is what I did.
Jeez 75 pages of people asking if this will fit their 17" rims or not is nauseating... This was the only post that I think summarizes what needs to be done.

Milling down the tabs to 12mm thickness sounds easy enough (I'm assuming all 12mm coming from the inside of the caliper?)

removing dust shield, check that's easy.

The knuckle is what confuses me. You say widen the holes, but away from hub.. meaning a new center that's further away? In which direction exactly? I am not sure what to ask a machinist when I take the hubs in.
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