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      07-10-2019, 05:34 PM   #1
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Need suggestions for N52 tune

Hey guys, so recently I finally got around to swapping the stock manifold and retrofitting the three stage intake with the disa valves. I want to know what's the CHEAPEST tuning option to activate the disa valves and unleash the extra hp that can be achieved from this mod. I hear bimmergeeks does it for around $100 but I haven't heard back from them after I've emailed them.

Right now the car has the following:
- RevMotoring silicone intake elbow
- Three stage intake manifold (from a 5 series, it has the heat sink on top of it)
- A.F.E. catless midpipes
- BMW Performance Exhaust
- Vibrant bottle style resonator

Love to hear suggestions, thanks!
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      07-11-2019, 07:23 AM   #2
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Either http://stagefp.com/product/sfp-n51-n52-tune/

or AA
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      07-11-2019, 08:24 AM   #3
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I've heard there are some free simple performance tunes available to take advantage of the 3SIM, paging hassmaschine and 6ixSpd for further comment. Apparently they're close to what you would get with AA at basically a fraction of the cost.
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I've heard there are some free simple performance tunes available to take advantage of the 3SIM, paging hassmaschine and 6ixSpd for further comment. Apparently they're close to what you would get with AA at basically a fraction of the cost.
You don't need to bother Hass, just visit Bimmerlabs.com
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You don't need to bother Hass, just visit Bimmerlabs.com
Yep that's definitely it. Thanks Rjahl.
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I've heard there are some free simple performance tunes available to take advantage of the 3SIM, paging hassmaschine and 6ixSpd for further comment. Apparently they're close to what you would get with AA at basically a fraction of the cost.
You don't need to bother Hass, just visit Bimmerlabs.com
I tried that but haven't heard back from them since Saturday...
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Have you set up an account and followed the instructions?

In short, you will need to download and flash a file that unlocks your DME, then download and flash a file that memics the BMW 330 tune. It's not a custom tune. Just lets your lower powerclass file run the 330 tune.

Need a good cable and a PC set up with the BMW tools.

Can't get any cheaper. Maybe a little short on the Free technical support but it works and it's a great service provided to the community.
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Have you set up an account and followed the instructions?

In short, you will need to download and flash a file that unlocks your DME, then download and flash a file that memics the BMW 330 tune. It's not a custom tune. Just lets your lower powerclass file run the 330 tune.

Need a good cable and a PC set up with the BMW tools.

Can't get any cheaper. Maybe a little short on the Free technical support but it works and it's a great service provided to the community.
Thanks! I'll try that!
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Go with the Stage FP tune. These cars need all the help they can get.
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Old thread I know, but is the Stage FP tune worth the extra $100+ over the AA tune?
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Old thread I know, but is the Stage FP tune worth the extra $100+ over the AA tune?
Yeah, word on the street is someone disassembled an AA tune and it wasn't nearly as optimized as it should've been.
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Yeah, word on the street is someone disassembled an AA tune and it wasn't nearly as optimized as it should've been.
Their latest tune? Highly doubt it.

Their newest tune is on par with BPC (stage fp) tune. AA's initial variations of the tune was crap, but the latest revision is rather good. Plenty of low end tq and power on top.
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Yeah, word on the street is someone disassembled an AA tune and it wasn't nearly as optimized as it should've been.
Their latest tune? Highly doubt it.

Their newest tune is on par with BPC (stage fp) tune. AA's initial variations of the tune was crap, but the latest revision is rather good. Plenty of low end tq and power on top.
I'm surprised no one has posted a good XDF and some tuning basics for the N52.

With Bimmerlabs you can build your own tunes.
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Stage FP ftw. I drove down from NY to get my n51 tuned with aa headers. Bob is the best on this engine platform
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Stage FP ftw. I drove down from NY to get my n51 tuned with aa headers. Bob is the best on this engine platform
how much whp you guys getting with tune? assuming catless headers and 3SIM
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Bimmerlabs refered me to bimmer ECU solutions.

I have been in contact with them and they will do the remote flash for 100$.

I'll be using their services soon, I'll post a review when I do.


https://www.bimecu.com
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how much whp you guys getting with tune? assuming catless headers and 3SIM
220 whp , N51 and auto without milvs otherwise fbo.
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Will the vehicle still be reliable even with these tunes? Does anyone have a high mileage e90 328i or 330i or 325i with a tune for extended periods?
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Will the vehicle still be reliable even with these tunes? Does anyone have a high mileage e90 328i or 330i or 325i with a tune for extended periods?
I've ran AAs tune from roughly 79k miles to about 90k then switched to BPCs (when Bob was there) until about 110k miles? Then I had my blower installed and retuned by Bob anyways.

The tune + all the supporting mods will garner some good streetable power for the platform. Just keep up on the preventative maintenance and longevity shouldn't be an issue.

If you go with the 3IM, just make sure your DISA valves are in good shape (in my experience, they are forever going out.) Or you can follow what Biginboca did and run the n54 intake and make power all the way to red line while eliminating 2 failure points (being DISA valves). That's just my experience though, I don't know how how often everyone else had to pull theirs for replacement or repair.
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Will the vehicle still be reliable even with these tunes? Does anyone have a high mileage e90 328i or 330i or 325i with a tune for extended periods?
I've ran AAs tune from roughly 79k miles to about 90k then switched to BPCs (when Bob was there) until about 110k miles? Then I had my blower installed and retuned by Bob anyways.

The tune + all the supporting mods will garner some good streetable power for the platform. Just keep up on the preventative maintenance and longevity shouldn't be an issue.

If you go with the 3IM, just make sure your DISA valves are in good shape (in my experience, they are forever going out.) Or you can follow what Biginboca did and run the n54 intake and make power all the way to red line while eliminating 2 failure points (being DISA valves). That's just my experience though, I don't know how how often everyone else had to pull theirs for replacement or repair.
I'd love to learn more about using N54 3stage intake on N52
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Will the vehicle still be reliable even with these tunes? Does anyone have a high mileage e90 328i or 330i or 325i with a tune for extended periods?
A good tune will not cause any problems at all.


Motor is solid, but there are a few tuners that have no idea and push the timing too far.



I had 205,000 miles on mine when I traded in. Started turning at 135k or so.
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