Looking at finally dabbling with Meth

Jase 320d · 11-29-2013, 05:39 PM

Also lowers EGT's prolonging turbo life and smoke (what i was referring to)

Sparky68 · 11-29-2013, 06:00 PM

It was the derv bit that had us confused.

Jase 320d · 11-30-2013, 01:17 AM

I don't know what car you have so thought it may be diesel

Sparky68 · 11-30-2013, 02:58 AM

ok

phil200tdi · 11-30-2013, 06:19 AM

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yep you can use map3 but you would probably have to run a lower additive until you go DPs.

Great thing about meth is that it reduces IATs enough to not require a better FMIC as much especially in this country.

Excellent cheers mate.

When you say a lower mix are you talking about 40% or lower?

He means boost additive on JB4.

Map 3 targets 13psi by default, you can add more boost by upping the boost additive value in blocks of 10 (1psi per block). For cars running 93octane (98ron) they recommend additive of 40 - targeting 17psi.

I run additive of 55 targeting 18.5psi.

Sparky68 · 11-30-2013, 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by phil200tdi

He means boost additive on JB4.

Map 3 targets 13psi by default, you can add more boost by upping the boost additive value in blocks of 10 (1psi per block). For cars running 93octane (98ron) they recommend additive of 40 - targeting 17psi.

I run additive of 55 targeting 18.5psi.

Oh right in the meth table.

I will be restricted by not having DPs I assume?

phil200tdi · 11-30-2013, 06:27 AM

Ask terry what value to start with. Log and see how the car responds.

Sparky68 · 11-30-2013, 06:32 AM

Will do mate, cheers.

mob17 · 11-30-2013, 04:54 PM

When are you getting it fitted Sparky?

So are meth injection kits pointless for diesels?

Sparky68 · 11-30-2013, 05:01 PM

Will be all sorted by January, just talking to Terry at BMS about settings for no DPs.

Already got 25 litres of Meth [ work perk]

Jase 320d · 11-30-2013, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by mob17

When are you getting it fitted Sparky?

So are meth injection kits pointless for diesels?

They aren't completely pointless

But bhp wise your talking a very minimal gain 5-10bhp

Helps to reduce intake temps, thus in turn reducing exhaust gas temps so you can get more power without chucking loads of soot out. Too much Smoke on a derv is bad. The no smoke no poke saying is nonsense

Sparky68 · 11-30-2013, 05:53 PM

Advantage for petrol is you can also use the meth for fuelling.

mob17 · 12-01-2013, 04:53 AM

Hmm might forget about meth if its only a 5-10bhp increase.

phil200tdi · 12-01-2013, 07:09 AM

On a 335d I'd expect more than 5-10bhp..

It's about knock suppression - it allows you to run more boost safely. Someone had a 400hp 335d running meth - not in the uk.

mob17 · 12-01-2013, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by phil200tdi

On a 335d I'd expect more than 5-10bhp..

It's about knock suppression - it allows you to run more boost safely. Someone had a 400hp 335d running meth - not in the uk.

Would be nice to know what mods the guy did for 400bhp. In the future, i would like to go for a DPF delete, straight pipes, meth and remap. Should get to 370-380 maybe?

Sparky68 · 04-14-2014, 02:08 AM

Anyone have one of these ? I assume it will fit my AA Chargepipe .

Sparky68 · 04-30-2014, 05:03 AM

Bump my car is a Sept 07 so should have the 2 piece pipe ?

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