camshaft issues ??? next recall guys

emjei · 11-13-2008, 06:57 PM

I was having a friendly conversation with my service advisor and asked him about all the defaults a problems of the n54 engine...besides fuel pumps, waste valves he also mentioned CAMSHAFT problems......any cases here ???

battlehawk1025 · 11-13-2008, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by emjei

I was having a friendly conversation with my service advisor and asked him about all the defaults a problems of the n54 engine...besides fuel pumps, waste valves he also mentioned CAMSHAFT problems......any cases here ???

u may just have started the next hell

emjei · 11-13-2008, 07:27 PM

Honestly guys ....the S/A told me that will be the next recall......shoot

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Originally Posted by battlehawk1025

u may just have started the next hell

sflgator · 11-13-2008, 07:27 PM

A friend of mine had this problem with his 335xi; his car is still in the shop now.

emjei · 11-13-2008, 07:29 PM

Im telling you.........
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Originally Posted by sflgator

A friend of mine had this problem with his 335xi; his car is still in the shop now.

MrWhite1015 · 11-13-2008, 07:41 PM

that sucks ... ill go to my dealership and ask around

Noize · 11-13-2008, 07:50 PM

Its a premature wear issue and the problem is well known AFAIK. Its only happening on a small percentage of cars.

MrWhite1015 · 11-13-2008, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Noize

Its a premature wear issue and the problem is well known AFAIK. Its only happening on a small percentage of cars.

thats good 2 know ... unless your part of that small %... is it a certain build date that mostly has the problem ?

BavarianBullet · 11-13-2008, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by MrWhite1015

thats good 2 know ... unless your part of that small %... is it a certain build date that mostly has the problem ?

I'm assuming the N54 are roller tappets/followers and if so it would seem hard to believe they are wearing out in under 100k mi. OHC w/roller tappets have been around (and popular) for a good 25+ years- not exactly a new technology.

It could be a case of improper heat treating on the cam. If so that can often happen only in certain batches.

1clean335i · 11-13-2008, 10:26 PM

if its the cam problem im thinking of, its only the cam bearing ledges/caps. the end seals toward the front of the vehicle wear a groove into the cam ledges and causes vanos faults for either intake or ex. its just the cam ledges/caps that get replaced, not the actual camshaft... that is unless there is another issue which i do not know of

Noize · 11-14-2008, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by 1clean335i

if its the cam problem im thinking of, its only the cam bearing ledges/caps. the end seals toward the front of the vehicle wear a groove into the cam ledges and causes vanos faults for either intake or ex. its just the cam ledges/caps that get replaced, not the actual camshaft... that is unless there is another issue which i do not know of

That's the one.

fotoguy335 · 11-14-2008, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by 1clean335i

if its the cam problem im thinking of, its only the cam bearing ledges/caps. the end seals toward the front of the vehicle wear a groove into the cam ledges and causes vanos faults for either intake or ex. its just the cam ledges/caps that get replaced, not the actual camshaft... that is unless there is another issue which i do not know of

Thats exactly what the SA told me they were going to fix on my 335xi but they had to wait till they fix another car with the same problem as the "special tools" needed were tied up in the engine of the other one. Hope it fixes the ticking sound at the same time as this is the 3rd time I have had some kind of engine problem in 14 months!

fotoguy335 · 11-14-2008, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Noize

Its a premature wear issue and the problem is well known AFAIK. Its only happening on a small percentage of cars.

Aaaaah I would say 16K miles is quite premature!

Zeph · 11-14-2008, 12:02 PM

wtf BMW damn

I really love this car (when functioning) but honestly with all the issues it is like driving a ticking timebomb every day

What if I want to go on a roadtrip? it is just too risky...

Tschuss · 11-14-2008, 01:12 PM

I had problems with my car throwing the check engine light. Stop the car and start again and the CEL would not be on ..... until it happened again.

I took it to the dealer and they checked to see what codes had been thrown. Fortunately there was a service bulletin out on this. Apparently this was a bear to diagnose pre-service bulliten. The problem was described to me as "a seal does not provide enough oil pressure to the Vanos system. No damage is done but the condition triggers the CEL. The job to replace the seal is no small one. Cam(s?) are removed as part of the process. I saw the job midway.

In any case, now there are no issues save the 29.2 debacle.

-B

sflgator · 11-14-2008, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by fotoguy335

Aaaaah I would say 16K miles is quite premature!

Agreed. But, hopefully they'll fix it and that will be that...for now.

OpenFlash · 11-14-2008, 01:49 PM

I know of two cars that had the problem about 3-4 months ago. No big deal. The dealership takes care of it no questions asked.

Shiv

sflgator · 11-14-2008, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

I know of two cars that had the problem about 3-4 months ago. No big deal. The dealership takes care of it no questions asked.

Shiv

My friend with this problem has never had any sort of tune or other mods; the issue is not mod related.

NM_BMW · 11-14-2008, 04:00 PM

Anyone know the build dates on the problematic cars?

krote345 · 11-14-2008, 04:07 PM

My buddy took delivery on his e92 328xi about 4 months ago (July?). He ordered it from the factory. He had the 'cam shaft issue' as well. They replaced it for him. The work took about 5 days and to make up for the inconvenience, New Country BMW paid for his lease for the whole month.

joec500 · 11-14-2008, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by 1clean335i

if its the cam problem im thinking of, its only the cam bearing ledges/caps. the end seals toward the front of the vehicle wear a groove into the cam ledges and causes vanos faults for either intake or ex. its just the cam ledges/caps that get replaced, not the actual camshaft... that is unless there is another issue which i do not know of

I had this issue....one day in, one day out....It will cause Limp Modes due to VANOS faults.

joec500 · 11-14-2008, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by fotoguy335

Thats exactly what the SA told me they were going to fix on my 335xi but they had to wait till they fix another car with the same problem as the "special tools" needed were tied up in the engine of the other one. Hope it fixes the ticking sound at the same time as this is the 3rd time I have had some kind of engine problem in 14 months!

Yah they use a tools to hold the crank at TDC, to make sure the preserve the timing of the motor when they do cam work.

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