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      08-17-2011, 03:36 PM   #4093
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i've heard some people have trouble focusing the 1.2...

and about the 85mm
I was talking to a pro yesterday and he primarily shoots the 85 1.8 and 135 2, and that's all he uses professionally for portraits.
right and that makes sense but I don't do that many standard portraits and when I do I like my 50mm better than my 70-200
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      08-17-2011, 03:40 PM   #4094
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right and that makes sense but I don't do that many standard portraits and when I do I like my 50mm better than my 70-200
have you rented the 1.2 yet?
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      08-17-2011, 03:41 PM   #4095
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I've heard good things about the 50mm f/1.2L, but those who have it seems to complain that it probably wasn't worth the huge price difference between the f/1.4 (unless you need the build quality for extreme weather shooting).
I'm looking at it from a large format printing quality point of view.

When printing a 12x18" @ 300dpi you can really start to tell the difference in quality of the bokeh and chromatic aberration.



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Although the maximum aperture opening differences between these lenses is obvious, the affect of the lens design and aperture blades on the background blur is not. In the above comparison image, the background blur of the Canon EF 50mm f/1.2 L USM Lens (left), Canon EF 50mm f/1.4 USM Lens (middle) and Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II Lens (right) are presented. These pictures were taken using identical (neutral) settings (that include an f/2.8 aperture). A tripod was used - the camera was focused on a stationary test target. In the top row of pictures, the difference in background blur harshness is easily seen. In the lower row of pictures, the effect of the shape and quantity of the aperture blades can easily be seen even at the relatively wide f/2.8 aperture. As I noted before, the f/1.2 performs best in the bokeh category - followed by the f/1.4.
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      08-17-2011, 03:46 PM   #4096
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I'm looking at it from a large format printing quality point of view.

When printing a 12x18" @ 300dpi you can really start to tell the difference in quality of the bokeh and chromatic aberration.


If you can justify it, then it's worth it.

Just never look back if you do it
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      08-17-2011, 04:37 PM   #4097
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i've heard some people have trouble focusing the 1.2...

and about the 85mm
I was talking to a pro yesterday and he primarily shoots the 85 1.8 and 135 2, and that's all he uses professionally for portraits.
1.2 definitely has back focusing issues on some copies. and what you need depends on your shooting styles. i have a 35L, 50 1.4, 100 2.8, and 135L...i find myself primarily using the 35 and 100 outside (as far as primes go), and the 50 and 100 inside. f/2 is a fantastic aperture at 135, but it's too long a focal length to be really useful in studio. as far as the 85 goes, i'm swapping my 135 with a local pro for a little while to see if i like the focal length...but i'll buy the Sigma 85 1.4 over the canon 1.8

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I've heard good things about the 50mm f/1.2L, but those who have it seems to complain that it probably wasn't worth the huge price difference between the f/1.4 (unless you need the build quality for extreme weather shooting).
build quality, balance on a gripped full size body, that extra little bit of aperture...they all make it worth the price for me.
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      08-17-2011, 05:13 PM   #4098
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build quality, balance on a gripped full size body, that extra little bit of aperture...they all make it worth the price for me.
those alone are good reasons.
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I'm looking at it from a large format printing quality point of view.
Do we really need a nude self-portrait of you on a giant billboard? If so, do it in Boston near a bridge.
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Do we really need a nude self-portrait of you on a giant billboard? If so, do it in Boston near a bridge.
so people can see it better? so TL can see it when he's shooting bridges? or so suicidal bridge jumpers have one more reason to actually jump?
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primarily the middle reason... but the last one works too.
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      08-18-2011, 10:36 PM   #4103
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pain killers for the tattoos?

Nice DoF, i like that her body is out of focus, but still very recognizable.
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      08-18-2011, 10:42 PM   #4104
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too bad the bull piercing isn't out of focus... she's cute, it really kills it 4 me.
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too bad the bull piercing isn't out of focus... she's cute, it really kills it 4 me.
nice thing about those is that they can be rotated up into the nose out of sight
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      08-18-2011, 10:50 PM   #4106
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cute shot.
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pain killers for the tattoos?

Nice DoF, i like that her body is out of focus, but still very recognizable.
it's a dry run for a "vices" themed shoot i'm doing at the end of the month. and thanks. i feel like there's more visual impact at f/2 for that shot than there is at f/8. she's really comfortable in front of the camera, so i sit her down when i want to experiment.

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too bad the bull piercing isn't out of focus... she's cute, it really kills it 4 me.
haha doesn't bother me. due to the below. i think her tattoos would be harder to stomach for most. i like em'.
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nice thing about those is that they can be rotated up into the nose out of sight
precisely. she does it at work and all that jazz.
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it's a dry run for a "vices" themed shoot i'm doing at the end of the month. and thanks. i feel like there's more visual impact at f/2 for that shot than there is at f/8. she's really comfortable in front of the camera, so i sit her down when i want to experiment.



haha doesn't bother me. due to the below. i think her tattoos would be harder to stomach for most. i like em'.


precisely. she does it at work and all that jazz.
I've been down the tattooed road, depends on the art that is there. some of it is absolutely fantastic and a pleasure to look at, some of it is a bit off putting.

I've woken up to someones back towards me, only to have a skull in my face.... that was a bit weird, but it was fun before that

I think some of the original floral art in bright colours can be a thing of beauty, but it's not something i would look for on someone i would want raising my children "but Mom has a tattoo, why can't I?"
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agreed with above... I have 5 smaller and very meaningful ones on my back and 1 arm... not sleeves by any means but also not so small you couldn't see um. My wife has 1 on her wrist (wants 1 on her side too now) and our thoughts are if they are small enough to be concieled in a professional setting but meaningful enough to want forever then thats cool... just not for the sake of "art". Thats what the walls in the house are for.
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agreed with above... I have 5 smaller and very meaningful ones on my back and 1 arm... not sleeves by any means but also not so small you couldn't see um. My wife has 1 on her wrist (wants 1 on her side too now) and our thoughts are if they are small enough to be concieled in a professional setting but meaningful enough to want forever then thats cool... just not for the sake of "art". Thats what the walls in the house are for.
agreed. I don't have any because i've never seen anything that i would want to see on myself when i'm 80 years old. I have a hard time seeing dragons, or tiger claws as something i'd appreciate the same 50 years from now

I especially hate when you see women with paw prints on their boobs and they are pushing a stroller.

I fully realize that if my mother were to die young, i would have a hard time with it, and probably think to do something in her memory, but i'd still have a hard time putting the ink to my body. I would probably just find some of the best pictures i have of her and do a frame with several of them in it and put it somewhere i would be able to reflect on her memory once in a while.

If i were in the army or something like that, i might do a piece to represent it and lost friends or something too.

to each their own, and sometimes tatts can be sexy in the right place at the right time
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I've been down the tattooed road, depends on the art that is there. some of it is absolutely fantastic and a pleasure to look at, some of it is a bit off putting.

I've woken up to someones back towards me, only to have a skull in my face.... that was a bit weird, but it was fun before that

I think some of the original floral art in bright colours can be a thing of beauty, but it's not something i would look for on someone i would want raising my children "but Mom has a tattoo, why can't I?"
i agree with you mostly. i don't see it as a child-rearing issue though. she isn't doing more than half-sleeves. she got the floral half-sleeve when she was 18 in a single 10 hour sitting and really regrets that. she hates it. her other arm is going to be really awesome, though. no skulls anywhere, haha. it won't be done until december though.

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agreed with above... I have 5 smaller and very meaningful ones on my back and 1 arm... not sleeves by any means but also not so small you couldn't see um. My wife has 1 on her wrist (wants 1 on her side too now) and our thoughts are if they are small enough to be concieled in a professional setting but meaningful enough to want forever then thats cool... just not for the sake of "art". Thats what the walls in the house are for.
she has a neck, those half sleeves, and both feet/one ankle. she probably won't do too much more. but she can pretty easily cover them up in a professional setting, she has to for work.
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i agree with you mostly. i don't see it as a child-rearing issue though. she isn't doing more than half-sleeves. she got the floral half-sleeve when she was 18 in a single 10 hour sitting and really regrets that. she hates it. her other arm is going to be really awesome, though. no skulls anywhere, haha. it won't be done until december though.



she has a neck, those half sleeves, and both feet/one ankle. she probably won't do too much more. but she can pretty easily cover them up in a professional setting, she has to for work.
I'd be fine with a wife with a couple tasteful ones, but like you said, they need to be able to be confined for professional use.

but again, i really have no say, only a preference, their bodies, their choices.
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mmmhmm. rolling over to her is niiiice, tattoos or not.
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