[coolguy]

Originally Posted by **335i**

if u have pre 29.2 no need to update, if u still thinking, go to your dealer they will scan your key and then u will know everything for sure

I'll take ur advise and post my key to the dealer to take a reading than to take my car I don't want them to touch my car

[**335i**]

Originally Posted by coolguy

I'll take ur advise and post my key to the dealer to take a reading than to take my car I don't want them to touch my car

post your results later

[bluescoupe]

Originally Posted by coolguy

I'll take ur advise and post my key to the dealer to take a reading than to take my car I don't want them to touch my car

Key does not show progman. Car must be hooked up to detect.

[BMWagain]

Originally Posted by **335i**

if u have pre 29.2 no need to update, if u still thinking, go to your dealer they will scan your key and then u will know everything for sure

We talked about this short while ago that dealer must have the car and use OBD diagnose to know version

[ezatnova]

Originally Posted by BMWagain

We talked about this short while ago that dealer must have the car and use OBD diagnose to know version

Ugh...quoting him only shows his useless posts to everyone who's marked them to be hidden.

[BMWagain]

Oh I have to do that. Mark them.Sorry for the inconvinience.

[boxter]

This afternoon my dealer has installed v.32.1 selecting "valve adjustment ", I have only driven 20 km, but I have seen the wastegate actuator closed at idle!!!
Now the engine is adapting itself after deleting failures memory.
The engine is better at low rpm (0-3000rpm), without LAG (the same before +-0.2sg with pre 29.2). Now the wheels spin!!
The wastegate is now opened when you accelerate without gear selected, only when you are at idle is closed. But if you engage the clutch and accelerate, then the wastegate closes!! Pre-29.2 this was different, always wastegate was closed.
The sound is lower too.
Tomorrow I will drive more kms, but I am sure that it is FIXED!!
My dealer knows perfectly now adjust the wastegate with the depression machine (he has a old and precise machine, different to the bmw official machine of depression), now the wastegate (post 09/2007) ONLY have 1 mm more of diameter. I only have had to install v31.2 for DME module (less 1hour) not change of wastegate, it is correct.
Thank you for your help, particularly to MEYERGRU and PAVEL.

[eelton]

Originally Posted by golf4501

Is anybody else having as many problems as I am trying to get there car upgraded? My background: 2007 car, October 2006 build date, I'm running 31 right now, and can feel the lag from my original pre 29 version. Car was upgraded last Summer due to a steering wheel lock issue. I printed out the technical service bulletin along with the BMW letter to Roundel and took it to my SA. The shop foreman called me and said he couldn't just do it based on that and needed BMW authorization "because he had to get paid". Today they call me back and say they are waiting to hear back from BMW because they need to confirm whether they have to remove the turbos for the procedure. I then asked them if they had ISIS and told them it was a programming option. They set-up an appointment for next Tuesday, but I have a gut feeling soemthing is going to get screwed up.

Was that by any chance Fields BMW?

[Christos]

Meyergru,,,,Quick question for you. You seem to be the resident expert. I Have a 08 335i coupe, build date 10/23/07. My fuel pump failed last nite. Its at the dealer now and i asked for the new 32 software update. They are using the new ISTA system and are having problems DL software. So they are keeping the car until Monday so they can figure out what's wrong. The SA mentioned something about iSTA reporting that the software DL was not effective? Have you heard of something like this?

[shaddai]

Originally Posted by Christos

Quick question for you. You seem to be the resident expert. I Have a 08 335i coupe, build date 10/23/07. My fuel pump failed last nite. Its at the dealer now and i asked for the new 32 software update. They are using the new ISTA system and are having problems DL software. So they are keeping the car until Monday so they can figure out what's wrong. The SA mentioned something about iSTA reporting that the software DL was not effective? Have you heard of something like this?

I've heard of stability problems with the new ISTA system. Citrixscu's car had to be kept an extra day or two because his dealer's ISTA system was not working initially (although the old Progman stations did, you can't get the fix that way). Better for them to keep the car and apply the right update than get the lag.

[**335i**]

Originally Posted by ezatnova

Ugh...quoting him only shows his useless posts to everyone who's marked them to be hidden.

cry me a river, and yes u are also in my ignore list ezatnova

Originally Posted by BMWagain

We talked about this short while ago that dealer must have the car and use OBD diagnose to know version

no need OBD, its enough reading key

[Unky]

Originally Posted by shaddai

I've heard of stability problems with the new ISTA system. Citrixscu's car had to be kept an extra day or two because his dealer's ISTA system was not working initially (although the old Progman stations did, you can't get the fix that way). Better for them to keep the car and apply the right update than get the lag.

Yeah, I think this is common. The service techs had my car most of the day because they experienced some errors during the initial programming run which had to be corrected. The report generated a failure code:

TEL/ULF had progr. status (12) which does not respond corresp. to target status

service report stated:
10465 Updated programming. TCU failed the first time so special measured the TCU and passed.

[borisivan]

The other day, I had 2.32.1 applies. I'm not sure if they remembered or knew how to select the "conversions" "restore wastegate settings" stuff.

Is there a reliable way to watch the wastegates at idle or something along those lines, that will properly show if the wastegate setting was done properly? I'm thinking something along the lines of "if have 32.1 without the right setting, it will be open at idle" versus "at 32.1 WITH the right setting, it will be closed at idle".

If someone has a reliable way of telling the difference, this would be very valuable to those of us that are getting the new software.

..... and by the way, where is the wastegate located?

[iScream]

curious:
http://www.autospies.com/news/BMW-to...i-models-41023


Also, I have had the chance to operate both v32.1 without the conversion and supposedly with the conversion. I've also had 29.2 and pre-29.2, and entirely new turbos. To be honest, I don't notice a discernible difference between the conversion and non-conversion 32.1. This leads me to suspect, like Boris, that it might not have been applied properly. If it was applied properly, then I can say that this still is not the same as the tune I had when I took delivery of the car, although it is noticeably better than 29.2.

[335xidave]

You guys know wwaayyyy more on this stuff than I do. My 335xi was born on 03-08, I have the Dinan Stage 2 ECU, and Stage 2 suspendsion. Since I had the upgrades, it's wicked fast, and handles great in the mountains, even on the run flats. No comparison to stock, and I find no lag, just GO, 6MT, Monacoblue, Coupe. Hope to be on this site for a long time, great info here. Newbie Dave

[ss134]

Hi,
Have read most of the thread, but does anyone know the score regarding
09 models? I know it will come with the newest updates but will it be as quick (and lag free)
as the 2006/7 originals? Does anyone have a 09? Am looking to order a 09 E90 335i
LCI but this thread has me concerned!!
Many Thanks.

[hl0m4n]

anyone have a linky for the official TSB? http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=202412

[Quisp]

Not sure if this is the TSB you mean but .....

http://www.bmwtis.com/tsb/bulletins/...p/B111307g.htm

[Bullitt]

My car was delivered with 29.2, and I noticed the lag since day one. It is not and never was the same as the 02/08 build demo car that I test drove. I began to think it was all in my head...until I came across this discussion.

Fortunately, my 135i has a problem recently documented by BMW, and a software update via ISTA/P 2.32.1 or later is necessary to fix this issue (TSB: http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showp...&postcount=169). It's a relatively minor issue to me, and I'm in no hurry to have it fixed. However, the lag is a much bigger issue in my book, and it would be tremendous to receive an update that will address this lag appropriately.

I've gathered in this thread so far that 32.1 seems to be the fix for those with MSD80 or pre-29.2, but there doesn't seem to be much discussion about the real value of 32.1 for cars with MSD81. This is the reason for my hesitation, and it doesn't help to know that shaddai, who received the 32.1 update for his MSD81 car, stated that there is still a disappointing amount of lag. (Hopefully, it's just his fuel pump )

But on the other hand, there's meyergru who I think mentioned the chance that the lag-fix may not even be available in a subsequent update.

So considering it's a one-time shot because dealers will not provide an update unless there's a "valid" problem that requires it, here's the question:

Take it in now and get 32.1, or wait for a later revision with a possibly better lag-fix?

Advice would be appreciated...especially from "mentors" meyergru, ezatnova, iscream, shaddai, or others...

[meyergru]

Originally Posted by Bullitt

I've gathered in this thread so far that 32.1 seems to be the fix for those with MSD80 or pre-29.2, but there doesn't seem to be much discussion about the real value of 32.1 for cars with MSD81. This is the reason for my hesitation, and it doesn't help to know that shaddai, who received the 32.1 update for his MSD81 car, stated that there is still a disappointing amount of lag. (Hopefully, it's just his fuel pump )

But on the other hand, there's meyergru who I think mentioned the chance that the lag-fix may not even be available in a subsequent update.

I think it will be available in any subsequent update - but for MSD80 cars only.

Originally Posted by Bullitt

So considering it's a one-time shot because dealers will not provide an update unless there's a "valid" problem that requires it, here's the question:

Take it in now and get 32.1, or wait for a later revision with a possibly better lag-fix?

What I said is that since BMW tells us there are no problems with MSD81 cars, there are / will be no correction at all for them. Nobody has yet verified if the "turbo retrofit" option after an update is accessible for MSD81 cars with ISTA/P >= 2.32.1 despite of what BMW is saying.

So, basically, it does not matter if/when you get an update for your MSD81 car. Having a "valid" reason for will help to get it in the first place. It would be interesting to watch the update personally and get the technician to have a look if the retrofit option is available.

[BMWagain]

I sent an email to my dealer which they forwarded to Germany.
Now the reply has arrived and it´s positive. I will receive the latest upgrade. I must be a special customer. I haven´t had the car tested.They have ISTA maschines. It´ll take 2-3 hours. I will get a call about making an appointment. I´ll let you know the outcome
L8.

[iScream]

Question only for those who are SURE they've gotten the "wastegate conversion" retrofit via ISTA/P P2.32.1:

Do you still hear the wastegates opening upon deceleration at 3300 RPM? That is, if you roll down your windows and rev the engine in neutral to 4000 RPM and then completely let off the gas pedal, do you hear a quick metallic click at 3300 RPM?

I know some of you confirmed this in 29.2, so you already know what I'm talking about.