Febi ATF?

dave4 · 11-05-2016, 07:16 AM

Hi all,

Car is an 06 330xi with GA6HP19Z AT transmission. I'm getting ready to do the 2nd oil and pan change. The first was done with ZF Lifeguard 6, but browsing the net I found Febi fluid Part #: 83-22-2-220-445-M36 less expensive. It does say it's equivalent to Shell Shell M-1375.4. which is the ZF.

Does anyone have any experience with Febi?

Thanks,
Dave4

Sgop335 · 11-05-2016, 08:59 AM

No exp w febi, but been using ravenol approved for my 335i 6spd auto.

http://www.blauparts.com/proddetail....=J1D2110%2D12D

kkasson · 11-05-2016, 02:26 PM

There's a pretty convincing argument that Ford's Mercon SP is the exact same fluid as Lifeguard 6. Mercon SP is ~$7 a quart.

dave4 · 11-06-2016, 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sgop335

No exp w febi, but been using ravenol approved for my 335i 6spd auto.

http://www.blauparts.com/proddetail....=J1D2110%2D12D

Thanks, Sgop335,

Is the Ravenol the same color as the ZF Lifeguard fluid? (Brownish Gold)

dave4 · 11-06-2016, 08:03 PM

I'm also looking into Pentosin ATF1.

Sgop335 · 11-07-2016, 05:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dave4

Thanks, Sgop335,

Is the Ravenol the same color as the ZF Lifeguard fluid? (Brownish Gold)

Yes brownish gold and has the spout in bottle to squeeze in. They are having 11% off with save11.
No exp on pentosin either.

dave4 · 11-11-2016, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sgop335

Yes brownish gold and has the spout in bottle to squeeze in. They are having 11% off with save11.
No exp on pentosin either.

Thank you for the promo code, ordered the case of 12, just had it delivered. Already have the pan but waiting on the new screws to come in. Will report later how it works out.

Thanks again!!

007_e350 · 11-11-2016, 08:42 PM

Honestly I won't use anything else but lifeguard 6, too big a risk to save 7 or 11 bucks per quart... just my 2 cents

Bamaben · 11-13-2016, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by 007_e350

Honestly I won't use anything else but lifeguard 6, too big a risk to save 7 or 11 bucks per quart... just my 2 cents

100% this

dave4 · 01-31-2017, 07:03 PM

After 2 months of using the Ravenol ATF I thought it would be appropriate to update this thread. The car was down for 1 week back in November due to a bad starter. After fixing the starter and taking the car to a test drive I noticed an oil leak under the car. It was significant but during the test drive nothing acted weird.

It turned out to be the mechatronic sealing sleeve. Let me tell you, it was a PITA to change it on an XI. Changed out the sleeve, filled it up with the new fluid, test drove it and it shifted just fine. I monitored the trans temp with INPA but because of the design of the bottles I was not able to use a pump and didn't get enough oil in plus it made a huge mess. 2 days later I checked the level and I was able to add 1.5 quart. If I remember right all in all was 7 quart. (I had the pan off for 5 days so it was dripping)

After 4000 miles its still shifts fine (knock on wood), but I think it will need new solenoids in about 30k miles as there are some rough shifts. (these were present before the new fluid as well)

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dave4 Second Lieutenant 52 Rep 223 Posts Drives: BMW 330xi Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: VA iTrader: (1)	Febi ATF? Hi all, Car is an 06 330xi with GA6HP19Z AT transmission. I'm getting ready to do the 2nd oil and pan change. The first was done with ZF Lifeguard 6, but browsing the net I found Febi fluid Part #: 83-22-2-220-445-M36 less expensive. It does say it's equivalent to Shell Shell M-1375.4. which is the ZF. Does anyone have any experience with Febi? Thanks, Dave4
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Sgop335 Colonel 650 Rep 2,019 Posts Drives: 07 335i e92, 08 535i Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: MD iTrader: (1)	No exp w febi, but been using ravenol approved for my 335i 6spd auto. http://www.blauparts.com/proddetail....=J1D2110%2D12D __________________ 335i e92 TPC 19Ts
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kkasson Lieutenant 187 Rep 589 Posts Drives: 07 BMW 328i, 08 BMW 528i Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: CA iTrader: (0)	There's a pretty convincing argument that Ford's Mercon SP is the exact same fluid as Lifeguard 6. Mercon SP is ~$7 a quart.
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dave4 Second Lieutenant 52 Rep 223 Posts Drives: BMW 330xi Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: VA iTrader: (1)	I'm also looking into Pentosin ATF1.
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007_e350 Lieutenant Colonel 217 Rep 1,909 Posts Drives: 335i 2008 MHD'd / x5d E70 Join Date: May 2013 Location: left lane iTrader: (3)	Honestly I won't use anything else but lifeguard 6, too big a risk to save 7 or 11 bucks per quart... just my 2 cents
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dave4 Second Lieutenant 52 Rep 223 Posts Drives: BMW 330xi Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: VA iTrader: (1)	After 2 months of using the Ravenol ATF I thought it would be appropriate to update this thread. The car was down for 1 week back in November due to a bad starter. After fixing the starter and taking the car to a test drive I noticed an oil leak under the car. It was significant but during the test drive nothing acted weird. It turned out to be the mechatronic sealing sleeve. Let me tell you, it was a PITA to change it on an XI. Changed out the sleeve, filled it up with the new fluid, test drove it and it shifted just fine. I monitored the trans temp with INPA but because of the design of the bottles I was not able to use a pump and didn't get enough oil in plus it made a huge mess. 2 days later I checked the level and I was able to add 1.5 quart. If I remember right all in all was 7 quart. (I had the pan off for 5 days so it was dripping) After 4000 miles its still shifts fine (knock on wood), but I think it will need new solenoids in about 30k miles as there are some rough shifts. (these were present before the new fluid as well)
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