what is the drivetrain loss for our cars?

sleepy_bimmer · 07-16-2009, 05:25 PM

hi guys, i just got hold of 07 335i and i would like to know whats the drivetrain loss for my car and for the awd 335xi ? I would also like to know which platform is better for tuning the n54 engine, rwd or awd ? This is my first bmw, thanks

645Nm · 07-16-2009, 05:32 PM

I had a 8kw drivetrain loss, but had very few power sapping items on my 07 335. In fact the car had just the bare essentials.

TurboSid · 07-16-2009, 06:21 PM

why would u ask now which platform is better if u already have your car?

to each their own but i prefer the rwd version of the 335. Best way to gauge drivetrain loss since its different on each car is to take it to a dyno and do the simple math yourself. General rule of thumb though is around 12-15% on MT cars and a little more on AT (this is not bmw specific).

sleepy_bimmer · 07-16-2009, 06:38 PM

alright thanks, I will go do my stock dyno run & see what i get. I was only asking just for my own information.

645Nm · 07-17-2009, 02:45 PM

Turbosid is right in his suggestion.

I liked your question since I considered it often followed by another question: If the baseline on my 335 is 217kw & torque 407Nm; what cause the major drive train lossess e.g. sunroof; aircon etc...And why is Nm up and not also down?

But I was also interested to know if adding power mods (tune/intercooler/DVs etc...) necessarily equate to more power...eg. Intercooler will add 15Kw and tune 30Kw and together my car will push out 262Kw from its baseline 217Kw...But I am not so sure that is how the maths work..it is certainly NOT working like this on my car...

Don't stop asking questions even if they are silly, thats how we learn and create enthusiasm...(my Oprah moment)

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645Nm only in it for the torque - awuleth'umshini wami 50 Rep 425 Posts Drives: sapphire black 335i Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: nomad iTrader: (0) Garage List 2009 335i sedan [0.00] 2005 120D [0.00] 2007 335i sedan [0.00]	I had a 8kw drivetrain loss, but had very few power sapping items on my 07 335. In fact the car had just the bare essentials. __________________
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sleepy_bimmer Private 19 Rep 60 Posts Drives: bmw 335i sedan Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: philadelphia iTrader: (0)	alright thanks, I will go do my stock dyno run & see what i get. I was only asking just for my own information.
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645Nm only in it for the torque - awuleth'umshini wami 50 Rep 425 Posts Drives: sapphire black 335i Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: nomad iTrader: (0) Garage List 2009 335i sedan [0.00] 2005 120D [0.00] 2007 335i sedan [0.00]	Turbosid is right in his suggestion. I liked your question since I considered it often followed by another question: If the baseline on my 335 is 217kw & torque 407Nm; what cause the major drive train lossess e.g. sunroof; aircon etc...And why is Nm up and not also down? But I was also interested to know if adding power mods (tune/intercooler/DVs etc...) necessarily equate to more power...eg. Intercooler will add 15Kw and tune 30Kw and together my car will push out 262Kw from its baseline 217Kw...But I am not so sure that is how the maths work..it is certainly NOT working like this on my car... Don't stop asking questions even if they are silly, thats how we learn and create enthusiasm...(my Oprah moment) __________________
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