The G4 is now officially the JB4 :)

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 11-22-2010, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Brey335i

lol I can only imagine what happened here

Mike, I think you mentioned that you drive with it now, right?

Is it just smoother than the JB3 with a better power curve, or is it also expected to make more peak power? I'm just curious, because you're pretty much already up there on that dyno thread... any chance for even more?

Thats a great question

but unfortunately I don't have an answer for you yet. I can tell you that its smoother, with what I think/feel is a better power curve, funner to drive and makes the car feel better, but I haven't integrated with the meth and not pushing the envelope in terms of boost right now so it will be interesting to compare once its all setup. I will definitely bring it to the same dyno and compare with a similar PSI to last time.

Mike

fd94 · 11-22-2010, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike@N54Tuning.com

Thats a great question

but unfortunately I don't have an answer for you yet. I can tell you that its smoother, with what I think/feel is a better power curve, funner to drive and makes the car feel better, but I haven't integrated with the meth and not pushing the envelope in terms of boost right now so it will be interesting to compare once its all setup. I will definitely bring it to the same dyno and compare with a similar PSI to last time.

Mike

If you see a gain of 50whp ill take 2!

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 11-22-2010, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by fd94

If you see a gain of 50whp ill take 2!

I'll hold you to that

LOL

Mike

tegoblue335i · 11-22-2010, 05:24 PM

Hmm, this made me re think my decision to go with procede.

packinDSS · 11-22-2010, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by tegoblue335i

Hmm, this made me re think my decision to go with procede.

Why? If its a money reason then go for the JB else the Procede has had the G4 features for sometime now. Historically many new features will come out on the Procede first. In my opinion, it seems the Procede has always been a little bit ahead of the jb3 technology wise.

Also I must mention that I use Giac flash stage 2 and you should look at them as well.

Brey335i · 11-22-2010, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by fd94

If you see a gain of 50whp ill take 2!

Then you get +100 whp, right?

itsbrokeagain · 11-22-2010, 07:27 PM

I have a customer with a 6mt who is waiting to get his hands on one...see if there is an improvement in this lag that everyone experiences.

themyst · 11-22-2010, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt@Camber-Toe

I have a customer with a 6mt who is waiting to get his hands on one...see if there is an improvement in this lag that everyone experiences.

its called bog! And yes, let's see if having CAN access can resolve the issue once and for all for the remaining high boost 6MT owners.

PeteW84 · 11-22-2010, 07:38 PM

Good info, now get working

. I want one of those bad boys for Christmas.

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 11-22-2010, 07:41 PM

I can tell you there is no BOG

Mike

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 11-22-2010, 07:42 PM

BMS got the JB4 methanol input working! Up next progressive meth mapping! On the chart it is calibrated to 0-2000ml/min from top to bottom. It uses the .1v per 100ml/min of the CMGS/VC2 but there will be an adjuster so you can use any flow sensor system you want.

Mike

fd94 · 11-23-2010, 10:01 AM

Omg thank god.i hate that bog.i cant speed shift my 4th and its killing me.i cant wait.i already have my 85 ready for this baby!!!!

Bagelfast · 11-23-2010, 03:58 PM

hopefully by christmas it will be beta...The features (Steering wheel controls, etc.) and the new autotuning alone is gonna be alottt of fun.

minag3 · 11-26-2010, 02:58 PM

I want a JB4 for Christmas too.... now all I need to find is someone to buy it for me!!!

PeteW84 · 11-26-2010, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by minag3

I want a JB4 for Christmas too.... now all I need to find is someone to buy it for me!!!

Man, just find yourself a good sugarmama..hehe

Clap135 · 11-26-2010, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike@N54Tuning.com

I can tell you there is no BOG

Mike

Turn the boost up, run race gas, then post again. This bog, is not only due to shitty boost control, its due to timing spikes that mt cars see, something you can't control with the jb4.

UrHookUp · 11-26-2010, 06:07 PM

I have someone to buy it for me for XMas, I just need to know where & when?

BOOSTED4DR · 11-27-2010, 10:10 AM

So with the JB4 theres no CAN for my 07 will have to use my BT tool also will i be able to use my Bms gauge even tho its already upgraded.

fire_mike · 11-27-2010, 11:57 AM

Since the JB4 has the CAN in it already, does that mean if I order a JB3 now, I should just skip the CAN tool?

shoes · 11-27-2010, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by fire_mike

Since the JB4 has the CAN in it already, does that mean if I order a JB3 now, I should just skip the CAN tool?

As far as I know, the JB4 will do everything the CAN tool can do (and more of course).
I would skip the CAN tool.

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 11-27-2010, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by fire_mike

Since the JB4 has the CAN in it already, does that mean if I order a JB3 now, I should just skip the CAN tool?

Correct! JB4 needs no CAN tool. Although being able to read/delete codes with tune out is still handy. And at $50 you can probably resell for profit. Your call.

Mike

MusclezMarinara · 11-27-2010, 05:03 PM

JB4 im in !

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