[Ninjaneer]

Originally Posted by voltron1011

I just got the latest upgrade also, and I just noticed that the 'maintenance' screen is no longer there. I'm talking about the screen that tells you your oil level and how long till the next service (brakes, oil, etc).. Anyone else have this issue?

Mine was just updated yesterday, so I assume I'm on the latest. The maintenance screen is still there... it's under "Info Sources."

1. Press down on the iDrive knob to get the vehicle settings section
2. Scroll to Info Sources section
3. You'll see Traffic Info, Service Info, etc. (or similar) - it should be under Service Info.

[bavarian19]

Finally got mine done!!! Much better than previous SW version!!!

[voltron1011]

Originally Posted by Ninjaneer

Mine was just updated yesterday, so I assume I'm on the latest. The maintenance screen is still there... it's under "Info Sources."

1. Press down on the iDrive knob to get the vehicle settings section
2. Scroll to Info Sources section
3. You'll see Traffic Info, Service Info, etc. (or similar) - it should be under Service Info.

[tizzletom]

I have an 08/2007 build, do you guys know if I have the latest PROGMAN? I do have some lag issues with the Idrive though..

[bavarian19]

Originally Posted by tlin8

I have an 08/2007 build, do you guys know if I have the latest PROGMAN? I do have some lag issues with the Idrive though..

You should probably be v.27. You most certainly have atleast v.25. I assume you have the mostly grey backgrounds?

[TheIrishMan]

Hi All,

I just handed in my 335i for a winter check (available in Germany) and also to sort out some other things with the car most notably the failing active cruise control which they can not fix without a separate re-calibration machine

Anyway I also asked for the progman update as I mentioned problems with my key not working and also with slow iPod functionality scrolling through the artists/ songs etc. I asked for v27.02.01 after reading on this forum about it fixing the issues, they told me the latest version was v28 and that is what they installed.

All I can say is the interface seems smoother and faster to respond, however I thought that the iPod interface when selecting artists for instance would be faster and show an A-Z list if it detects that you are scrolling fast through the long list - instead it shows numbers and you kinda have to guess when to stop, it is much faster than before but still not a perfect solution in my mind.

Also just as a word of warning all the programmed buttons you assigned to the 8 soft touch buttons available are gone and all mpg (l/100 km) settings are reset resulting in an intital lower rating than my old 996 C4S when I picked the car up after the update

Cheers,
Des (TheIrishMan)

[cobradac]

Originally Posted by TheIrishMan

Hi All,

I just handed in my 335i for a winter check (available in Germany) and also to sort out some other things with the car most notably the failing active cruise control which they can not fix without a separate re-calibration machine

Anyway I also asked for the progman update as I mentioned problems with my key not working and also with slow iPod functionality scrolling through the artists/ songs etc. I asked for v27.02.01 after reading on this forum about it fixing the issues, they told me the latest version was v28 and that is what they installed.

All I can say is the interface seems smoother and faster to respond, however I thought that the iPod interface when selecting artists for instance would be faster and show an A-Z list if it detects that you are scrolling fast through the long list - instead it shows numbers and you kinda have to guess when to stop, it is much faster than before but still not a perfect solution in my mind.

Also just as a word of warning all the programmed buttons you assigned to the 8 soft touch buttons available are gone and all mpg (l/100 km) settings are reset resulting in an intital lower rating than my old 996 C4S when I picked the car up after the update

Cheers,
Des (TheIrishMan)

If the techs had perfiormed the correct procedure(s) they would have started by saving your personal settings, then restoring your settings - it is two steps. Many just save and forget to restore, let alone not saving in the first place.

[lilweezy83]

This may have been addressed a while back, but I am new to the forums and haven't seen an answer yet... I was just wondering what Progman I would probably be running in an untouched Oct 2006 production 328i w/ I-drive. I have it in the shop now, hoping that they will go ahead and update me, but I am just trying to figure out how ancient my current system is.

[cobradac]

Originally Posted by lilweezy83

This may have been addressed a while back, but I am new to the forums and haven't seen an answer yet... I was just wondering what Progman I would probably be running in an untouched Oct 2006 production 328i w/ I-drive. I have it in the shop now, hoping that they will go ahead and update me, but I am just trying to figure out how ancient my current system is.

Most likely 23.01.00 but could be 23.02.00.

This would cover most all fixes since then as we do not know yet what v28 fixes.

SI B 61 03 05
General Electrical Systems October 2007
Technical Service

This Service Information bulletin supersedes SI B61 03 05 dated September 2007.

(New) designates changes to this revision

SUBJECT
Software Errors Corrected with Progman

MODEL
E90, E91, E92, E93 (3 Series)

Vehicles produced up to August 30, 2007

SITUATION
The customer may complain of the following situations.

The following software errors were corrected with the release of Progman 27.00.00 (Target data Status E89x-07-09-518):

(New) The "Service Engine Soon" light is on. DME fault code "2AD8 – EAC Sensor monitoring" is stored. This only affects the N51 PZEV engine. Refer to SI B12 16 07.

(New) An erroneous "Low Oil Level" warning message comes on. This only affects vehicles equipped with AWD and N51, N52, N52K and N54 engines. Refer to SI B12 05 07 for further information.

An erroneous check control message stating "SOS inactive" is displayed. Refer to SI B84 16 07 for more information.

Vehicles equipped with iPOD using the USB interface (SA 6FL) switch from iPOD mode to FM mode.

CCC: The radio does not revert to the previously listened-to station. Refer to SI B65 28 07 for more information.

The xenon headlights (SA 522) sporadically perform a reference run during vehicle operation. This only occurs in vehicles produced from 2/28/07 to 8/31 07 with FRM2 (Footwell Module).

The following software errors were corrected with the release of Progman 25.01.00 (Target data Status E89x-07-03-520).

(New) There is loss of power during idle or when slowing to a stop. No faults associated with the DME are stored. This only affects vehicles equipped with N51 and N52K from 9/06 to 3/07. Refer to SI B12 15 07 for further information.

In vehicles equipped with CCC (Car Communication Computer), the SDARS (Satellite Radio) stored station list is intermittently empty since programming with Progman V25.00.00.

There is poor RTTI (Real Time Traffic Information) reception. The CID (Central Information Display) is constantly displaying "Transferring Messages" since programming with Progman V25.00.00.

After vehicle programming of the PDC (Park Distance Control), FC 9e28 is stored. Carry out a power cycle (ignition Off/On) and clear the fault memory.

The following software errors were corrected with the release of Progman 25.00.00 (Target data Status E89x-07-03-515):

If there is an incoming telephone call while the SVS (Voice Input System) is active, it is not possible to accept or reject the call.

A loud humming noise can be heard from the auxiliary fan when the vehicle is idling.

The automatic transmission enters "Failsafe" mode during a 5-4 downshift. EGS fault "AF8D – ratio monitoring 5-4 gearshift plausibility" is stored.

CCC: The programmable diamond MFL button does not work when set to "Next entertainment source" when the vehicle is in motion.

CCC: The customer occasionally has poor radio reception after the vehicle was programmed with Progman V23.x or V24.x.

The speedometer and tachometer needles shake when the vehicle is idling.

CCC: There is a slow response to inputs made when using the controller after startup.

CCC: A high frequency whistling noise can be heard intermittently in radio mode.

CCC: The navigation system pop-up arrow display is missing. Refer to SI B65 76 06.

CCC: The CD/CDC track advances after the key is cycled. Refer to SI B65 32 05.

SDARS (Satellite radio) receiver fault "A537 – Sat aerial short circuit" is stored.

The following software errors were corrected with the release of Progman 24.00.00 (Target data Status E89x-06-12-510):

The PDC (Park Distance Control) stops working if the vehicle stops running when the reverse gear is selected and the vehicle is then restarted.

The headlight leveling system (LWR) is not working. Fault code "9CB6 LWR coil break" is stored in the FRM (Footwell Module). Coding of the FRM is necessary.

CCC (Car Communication Computer): The "dynamic route" SVS (Voice Recognition System) option is missing on vehicles with RTTI (Real Time Traffic Information).

There is no check control message when one of the tail light bulbs is defective. Coding of the FRM is necessary.

PROCEDURE
For all vehicles, on a customer complaint basis only, refer to the following procedure and warranty information.

Update the complete vehicle per SI B09 05 01 (Coding, Individualization, Programming) Procedure B, using Progman 27.02.00 (Target Data Status E89x-07-09-521) or higher.

WARRANTY INFORMATION
Covered under the terms of the BMW New Vehicle Limited Warranty.

[0asis]

hey guys, my ipod classic no longer charges in the car anymore I went in for an update and the guy said "they updated" something.. but the ipod still dies in the car. i read in an apple thread that ipod classics, iphones and nano 3G all have new operating systems that idrive can't fully interface with (ie. the successful turn-off of the ipod when you shut down the vehicle). anyone else with this problem?

[adrian1480]

^

same here. my classic does not charge. if not fixed soon, I may just trade down for a 5G video iPod. I had no charging issues with that one. The whole point was to be able to put it in the car and never think about it again.

[Cryokid]

Originally Posted by 0asis

hey guys, my ipod classic no longer charges in the car anymore I went in for an update and the guy said "they updated" something.. but the ipod still dies in the car. i read in an apple thread that ipod classics, iphones and nano 3G all have new operating systems that idrive can't fully interface with (ie. the successful turn-off of the ipod when you shut down the vehicle). anyone else with this problem?

Guys, there's a number of threads on this subject in the Audio/Video section. My dealer says that a new "Y" Cable will fix this. The cable is on national backorder (1,400 units) and expected in the end of January.

[FunRevn]

Got the Flash on Friday. I have about 70miles on the car and so far the only thing that changed is the power delivery. It feels as if they reshaped the torque curve. Took out a little from idle to about 2K and added to the between 3K to 6K range.

The car is not as strong starting from a stop in M2. That being said, SD is better than before. I can't remember if it started in first or second but now it starts in first and first is actually useful (even with DTC on!!). The 1-2 shifts are so fast that you lose nothing and your in the meat of the tq curve of 2nd that is even stronger (or at least it feels that way) than before. So you really can blast out of the hole. First gear used to just spin and/or just trigger DTC so much that it actually cost you time.

I'm a bit torn though. I like diving into my favorite corner and dropping down to M2 via a couple of quick clicks on the paddles and then having that lowend torque pull me out with the tires tearing at the pavement. But the smoothness and overall feel is actually more natuarally asperated feeling than before. Reminds me more of my old 95 M3 the way they changed the torque curve.

The CD (MP3 format) still starts from the begining of the song when the car has been off for more than an hour and the same thing with the Recirc setting. Reverts to off after the car has been off for more than 10 mins.

My car is a 335 cpe May 07 build Steptronic w/sport package Maybe its not having Nav thats the problem with the CD and AC

Love to hear comments from those who have upgraded to series 27 or 28 progman

[OverDrive]

Originally Posted by TheIrishMan

Hi All,

I just handed in my 335i for a winter check (available in Germany) and also to sort out some other things with the car most notably the failing active cruise control which they can not fix without a separate re-calibration machine

Anyway I also asked for the progman update as I mentioned problems with my key not working and also with slow iPod functionality scrolling through the artists/ songs etc. I asked for v27.02.01 after reading on this forum about it fixing the issues, they told me the latest version was v28 and that is what they installed.

All I can say is the interface seems smoother and faster to respond, however I thought that the iPod interface when selecting artists for instance would be faster and show an A-Z list if it detects that you are scrolling fast through the long list - instead it shows numbers and you kinda have to guess when to stop, it is much faster than before but still not a perfect solution in my mind.

Also just as a word of warning all the programmed buttons you assigned to the 8 soft touch buttons available are gone and all mpg (l/100 km) settings are reset resulting in an intital lower rating than my old 996 C4S when I picked the car up after the update

Cheers,
Des (TheIrishMan)

Did you feel any changes in performance of the car like others have mentioned?

[Shiftlock]

I'm sorry for asking a question that probably seems obvious to those with more knowledge of this topic, but is there any way to tell what software version my I-Drive is running? Like a secret screen or something? I'm guessing there's not, but I just thought I would ask.

[Tag]

Originally Posted by Shiftlock

...is there any way to tell what software version my I-Drive is running?

No

[cisoid]

Originally Posted by Cryokid

Guys, there's a number of threads on this subject in the Audio/Video section. My dealer says that a new "Y" Cable will fix this. The cable is on national backorder (1,400 units) and expected in the end of January.

iPod Classic charging problem.

Apple just provided a new solution to the charging problem: iPod Classic Firmware V1.1.

I just upgraded my iPod Classic to FW V1.1 and retested with the "old" cable (serial number 429 645) -> everything worked fine. The actual problem was that the iPod did not switch off after shut down of the car. Therefore the iPod's battery was drained over night.

For this problem see also the thread http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...ht=6fl&page=45

[oct1285]

do i just walk into the dealer and ask for the idrive upgrade? is it free?

[Cryokid]

Originally Posted by oct1285

do i just walk into the dealer and ask for the idrive upgrade? is it free?

The dealer won't just update the software because you ask him to. There has to be a known problem that will be fixed by the software. BMW has gotten tough on just upgrading for the sake of upgrading.

[Goose92]

A question for the members that are seeing the numbers when scrolling through a long iPod list after the latest Progman update: is this with the factory-installed iPod/USB connector or the dealer installed iPod (only) connector? I am trying to figure out what version I have. I assume got the newest (see below) but not sure.

Now the story: I took my car in to have the iPod connector installed on DEC27 2008 and got it back on JAN03 2008. When they installed the module it crashed the I-Drive/Nav (basically the whole car) and they had to get BMW to recover it (and they were closed over the New Year's weekend). Anyway, moral of the story is that like any software upgrade, sometimes something goes wrong and it can take a while to recover. This is probably why some of you have been told it could take a whole day to do the update.

Oh, and BTW, this is my first post so 'Hi everyone.' I found a lot of great information on this board.

Gabriel

[Tag]

^

Scrolling numbers are with the 6FL option, factory installed.

Welcome!

[bsjd00]

I have the dealer-installed iPod adapter in my '06 e90. (I had this installed before BMW offered the factory-install option.)

Does this mean that I'll be stuck with the slow scrolling issue forever? Even with 27.2.1?