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      07-27-2018, 09:10 AM   #551
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What's your opinion on using a 7.5hd intercooler on fbo + meth?I got stock turbos but planning to upgrade the next year...
Is it too much?
I'm in doubt, I don't know if buying a 7hd like vrsf, 7.5hd like the new phoenix/bms or a cheapest Chinese 7.5 but non HD fin
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What's your opinion on using a 7.5hd intercooler on fbo + meth?I got stock turbos but planning to upgrade the next year...
Is it too much?
I'm in doubt, I don't know if buying a 7hd like vrsf, 7.5hd like the new phoenix/bms or a cheapest Chinese 7.5 but non HD fin
I would go with the 7" HD since you are using methanol which helps with cooling as well.
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I would go with the 7" HD since you are using methanol which helps with cooling as well.
Thank you Mike, I figured the 7.5 would have been exaggerated...
Probably I would buy it from you in a few weeks...
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Thank you Mike, I figured the 7.5 would have been exaggerated...
Probably I would buy it from you in a few weeks...
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Okay I need help on which fmic I should get for my 335i, I got stock turbos planning to upgrade:
•Charge pipe with hks bov
•Jb4 tune
•catless downpipes
•Already have dual cone air intakes with air scoops

I need help or good advice on which fmic to get for the best results with those bolt ons listed above pleaseee😭🙏🏼
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Okay I need help on which fmic I should get for my 335i, I got stock turbos planning to upgrade:
•Charge pipe with hks bov
•Jb4 tune
•catless downpipes
•Already have dual cone air intakes with air scoops

I need help or good advice on which fmic to get for the best results with those bolt ons listed above pleaseee������
Wagner EVO II Competition and VRSF 7" High Density are top contenders for best result.
Evolution Racewerks is another really good option
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Wagner EVO II Competition and VRSF 7" High Density are top contenders for best result.
Evolution Racewerks is another really good option
Which one do you honestly recommend?
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Which one do you honestly recommend?
Can only speak from experience with the VRSF but it was 100% worth the upgrade from stock.
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Can only speak from experience with the VRSF but it was 100% worth the upgrade from stock.
Had my eye on that vrsf 7”HD for a while but wasn’t sure, cheap price, and good reviews. I’m going with that thanks for your help🙏🏼
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Had my eye on that vrsf 7”HD for a while but wasn’t sure, cheap price, and good reviews. I’m going with that thanks for your help🙏🏼
You won't regret it! Feel free to check out my review thread on the 7HD, the reliability makes it a great investment regardless of your power goals.
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Had my eye on that vrsf 7”HD for a while but wasn’t sure, cheap price, and good reviews. I’m going with that thanks for your help🙏🏼
You will not regret going with the VRSF 7" HD
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      01-18-2019, 02:44 AM   #563
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Wagner EVO II Competition and VRSF 7" High Density are top contenders for best result.
Evolution Racewerks is another really good option
ER has really stood the test of time hasn’t it? Surprising that it still can compete with the newer options out there.
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ER has really stood the test of time hasn’t it? Surprising that it still can compete with the newer options out there.
ER makes a phenomenal product and they're always one of the only options we would ever recommend if our products are out of stock but the VRSF 7" HD will outperform the ER intercooler at almost half the cost.

If you do a quick search you'll quite a few comparison threads where customers have upgraded from the ER to our similarly sized 7" HD or our much larger Race intercooler where their IAT's actually drop during pulls.

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ER has really stood the test of time hasn’t it? Surprising that it still can compete with the newer options out there.
Agree, they make a fine product i had it on my N54 and it worked great
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      02-25-2019, 02:15 PM   #566
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Any experience with BMS intercooler? Perhaps my poor search skills but there seem to be no reviews at all.
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Whats the consensus on the ARM 7inch intercooler with hose upgrade?

Seems reasonably well made for the money and I like the idea of eliminating a couple joints on the cold side to avoid future boost leaks and smooth out airflow on both sides.

I will be running methanol primarily for charge cooling before summer hits also, so it doesnt need to be the best of the best but for flow and pressure loss are my largest concerns.
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Whats the consensus on the ARM 7inch intercooler with hose upgrade?

Seems reasonably well made for the money and I like the idea of eliminating a couple joints on the cold side to avoid future boost leaks and smooth out airflow on both sides.

I will be running methanol primarily for charge cooling before summer hits also, so it doesnt need to be the best of the best but for flow and pressure loss are my largest concerns.
I recommend a high quality 5" stepped core intercooler for your mods

Wagner EVO I (on sale), VRSF and Active Autowerke are all good options


since you have methanol injection, the 5" will be enough for cooling + has better pressure drop than 7" + lighter weight
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Can only speak from experience with the VRSF but it was 100% worth the upgrade from stock.
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Had my eye on that vrsf 7”HD for a while but wasn’t sure, cheap price, and good reviews. I’m going with that thanks for your help🙏🏼
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You won't regret it! Feel free to check out my review thread on the 7HD, the reliability makes it a great investment regardless of your power goals.
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You will not regret going with the VRSF 7" HD
Thanks a ton for the kind words guys, we always appreciate when customers share their feedback with our products.

We've made significant improvements to our intercooler line since we first introduced our first intercooler for this platform almost a decade ago and we're proud of the fact that our intercoolers are being used on multiple record holding N54's.
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I recommend a high quality 5" stepped core intercooler for your mods

Wagner EVO I (on sale), VRSF and Active Autowerke are all good options


since you have methanol injection, the 5" will be enough for cooling + has better pressure drop than 7" + lighter weight
Interesting that you mention pressure drop. I'm getting ready to pull the trigger on a fmic and an a little worried about pressure drop. I live at 5000' above sea level and it only gets in the mid 80's in the hottest part of summer with minimal humidity (my ambient air pressure on my logs is usually 12.4). I already get lag due to the environment here, and am worried it will be more pronounced with a 7" fmic. I plan on purchasing dps at the same time, and was even considering inlets with the intent of making things as easy on my stock turbos as possible. Do you have any thoughts on a 5" stepped ic vs 7" for my situation?

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Interesting that you mention pressure drop. I'm getting ready to pull the trigger on a fmic and an a little worried about pressure drop. I live at 5000' above sea level and it only gets in the mid 80's in the hottest part of summer with minimal humidity (my ambient air pressure on my logs is usually 12.4). I already get lag due to the environment here, and am worried it will be more pronounced with a 7" fmic. I plan on purchasing dps at the same time, and was even considering inlets with the intent of making things as easy on my stock turbos as possible. Do you have any thoughts on a 5.5" stepped ic vs 7" for my situation?
I would get a 5" intercooler with these temps
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I recommend a high quality 5" stepped core intercooler for your mods

Wagner EVO I (on sale), VRSF and Active Autowerke are all good options


since you have methanol injection, the 5" will be enough for cooling + has better pressure drop than 7" + lighter weight
Does any other company offer the 1 piece hose design on the cold side like ARM?

(i assume it was copied from somewhere)

I'm really dissatisfied with the fitment of my BMS chargepipe and eliminating their chargepipe to intercooler pipe coupler would really help fitment issues.
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