low $$$ upgrades to put power to the ground

waikiki35 · 12-11-2014, 10:59 PM

Hi guys,
at 400+ rwhp, the car looses traction way to easy in 1-2-3 gear (6MT).
what are some upgrades I can make to help the car put the power to the ground, keeping in mind that I do not want to pay big money for a LSD?
Also the car is DD...
any suggestions?

Cloud9blue · 12-11-2014, 11:22 PM

tires...

waikiki35 · 12-11-2014, 11:29 PM

Staying on stock rims for right now.

Socket · 12-11-2014, 11:54 PM

cheapest solution is not to mash the gas so hard

waikiki35 · 12-12-2014, 12:18 AM

Lol yup..but there is no point in having power if you can't use it to the fullest. Well at least not under 50 mph or so.

kisho · 12-12-2014, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Cloud9blue

tires...

Quote:

Originally Posted by waikiki35

Staying on stock rims for right now.

He did say tires, not rims. I also second his choice.

Socket · 12-12-2014, 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by waikiki35

Lol yup..but there is no point in having power if you can't use it to the fullest. Well at least not under 50 mph or so.

If you are running a JB4 there is an option to rev limit 1st and 2nd to prevent wheel spin.....

b-man · 12-12-2014, 07:37 AM

what's your wheel/tire setup? Put some meat on those wheels, that's the easiest way. If you're using spacers, get rid of those and get wider tires

MMMCOOKIES55 · 12-12-2014, 08:55 AM

yeah what stock wheels? Just run some wider Michelin Pilot Super sports, work great for me. You also need to learn to modulate your throttle better, If i just Floored it i would spin 1st and 2nd too... its all in how you drive it. As someone else mentioned too, the JB4 has 1st and 2nd PSI limits you can set via your gauge cluster.

RuthlessE92 · 12-12-2014, 09:05 AM

You need tires. In my 400whp civic on drag radials I would be spinning through 4th gear. Best way to control it was 1st and 2nd half throttle which will still spin and bounce of the limiter but a lot more control. In my FBO 335i I just butterfly it and it works fine. Only way to full throttle off launch is sticky tires

waikiki35 · 12-12-2014, 09:27 AM

I mentioned I was on stick rims because I can't put 275s on them. What is a good tire that's DD?

Also I know all I gotta do is give less gas in 1-2 but that is power wasted. Is there nothing else beside tires and LSD that will allow me to put more power to the ground?

glachhman · 12-12-2014, 09:42 AM

Get a better tire, not necesarily wider maybe?

RuthlessE92 · 12-12-2014, 10:20 AM

Psi adjustment for each gear.

lrwatkins · 12-12-2014, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Cloud9blue

tires...

first thing that came to mind to LOL

Reckless335 · 12-12-2014, 02:13 PM

Pretty much tires and LSD..... you don't want either of those, so your only option is not going full throttle. There's no "magical" part that will give you more traction...... especially not for cheap. LSD would be the best bet, if you can't do that, go wider tires. If you can't do that, go with stickier tires. Usually a lower treadwear rating would be a good estimate for sticky tires. I mean, you mention it's a DD...... do you floor the throttle off the line every single time? Your MPGs must suck..... there are other ways to drive other than WOT 100% of the time.

GreekboyD · 12-13-2014, 01:44 PM

Seems like you're in way over your head. Sell the car and get something more practical for yourself.

Socket · 12-13-2014, 06:15 PM

how about snow chains or these for more grip

snaimpally · 12-13-2014, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by waikiki35

Hi guys,
at 400+ rwhp, the car looses traction way to easy in 1-2-3 gear (6MT).
what are some upgrades I can make to help the car put the power to the ground, keeping in mind that I do not want to pay big money for a LSD?
Also the car is DD...
any suggestions?

As others have suggested, better tires would be a good start. I am really happy with my Conti DWS. Also, don't give it the gas right away - let the tires get traction and then give it gas. If you can, I'd suggest saving up and getting an LSD (or trade your car in and get an xdrive model).

EJ_3 · 12-14-2014, 01:51 AM

Sticky tires will be your best bet at the moment like others have said... or switch to a less aggressive map.

evo335xi · 12-14-2014, 10:12 AM

Limiting boost down low aka mazdaspeed 3 ecu : )

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waikiki35 Banned 10 Rep 53 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: tn iTrader: (0)	low $$$ upgrades to put power to the ground Hi guys, at 400+ rwhp, the car looses traction way to easy in 1-2-3 gear (6MT). what are some upgrades I can make to help the car put the power to the ground, keeping in mind that I do not want to pay big money for a LSD? Also the car is DD... any suggestions?
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waikiki35 Banned 10 Rep 53 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: tn iTrader: (0)	Staying on stock rims for right now.
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waikiki35 Banned 10 Rep 53 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: tn iTrader: (0)	Lol yup..but there is no point in having power if you can't use it to the fullest. Well at least not under 50 mph or so.
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b-man Major 604 Rep 1,090 Posts Drives: 328xi Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: maine iTrader: (2)	what's your wheel/tire setup? Put some meat on those wheels, that's the easiest way. If you're using spacers, get rid of those and get wider tires
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MMMCOOKIES55 Major 350 Rep 1,376 Posts Drives: '17 M3 ZCP/ '16 ATS-V Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Apex, NC iTrader: (3)	yeah what stock wheels? Just run some wider Michelin Pilot Super sports, work great for me. You also need to learn to modulate your throttle better, If i just Floored it i would spin 1st and 2nd too... its all in how you drive it. As someone else mentioned too, the JB4 has 1st and 2nd PSI limits you can set via your gauge cluster.
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RuthlessE92 Lieutenant 45 Rep 561 Posts Drives: 335i E92 Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Everett, WA iTrader: (1)	You need tires. In my 400whp civic on drag radials I would be spinning through 4th gear. Best way to control it was 1st and 2nd half throttle which will still spin and bounce of the limiter but a lot more control. In my FBO 335i I just butterfly it and it works fine. Only way to full throttle off launch is sticky tires
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12-12-2014, 09:27 AM	#11
waikiki35 Banned 10 Rep 53 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: tn iTrader: (0)	I mentioned I was on stick rims because I can't put 275s on them. What is a good tire that's DD? Also I know all I gotta do is give less gas in 1-2 but that is power wasted. Is there nothing else beside tires and LSD that will allow me to put more power to the ground?
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Reckless335 Captain 77 Rep 980 Posts Drives: '08 BSM 335i e92 Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Norfolk iTrader: (4) Garage List 2008 BMW 335i [0.00]	Pretty much tires and LSD..... you don't want either of those, so your only option is not going full throttle. There's no "magical" part that will give you more traction...... especially not for cheap. LSD would be the best bet, if you can't do that, go wider tires. If you can't do that, go with stickier tires. Usually a lower treadwear rating would be a good estimate for sticky tires. I mean, you mention it's a DD...... do you floor the throttle off the line every single time? Your MPGs must suck..... there are other ways to drive other than WOT 100% of the time. __________________ '08 BSM E92 335i 6MT/MHD stg 2+/VRSF 7" FMIC/VRSF CP/HKS BOV/VRSF catless DPs/BMS DCI/muffler delete/BC Extreme lows/OEM style 167s/BMS high side OCC/Mishimoto low side OCC/etc
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