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      11-06-2019, 11:28 AM   #1
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Hi guys Im very new to this world 👨*🔧👨*🔧

I would like to share my review and also have your guys experience if you are owning the Android 9.0 head unit for your E9x

Just got my CCC replaced by the new Android 9.0 head unit on my E92 2008.

Got it stock and installed from cargpsaustralia - take 2 hours - 1200aud + 250aud reversed camera. Quite OK with the price because I dont have much time as being a young parent and Im not professional at electric so I can not DIY. Also they have a store so I can come back anytime for any issue - 1 year warranty they give us - Just the price of the reverse camera i few expensive because i saw online the trunk fitted camera was very cheap around 50-100aud - ask the company but they said they dont have cheaper one... But at the end the reverse camera very high quality image with original sensor feel like a factory 2020 BMW even though I never drive one.

After few days using and searching information online around :

- Android 9.0 is fast OK - i read lot complain about lagging and frozen screen on older version 8.1 and under - so it is good for your future use and always can be update when newer version come. It is 2020 now so I believe technology is very recently now - I hope

- Reverse Camera is very useful specially my wife gonna drive it as well - people may being old to just use sensor when reverse but for our safety and other why not - it is 2020 now !

- Apple CarPlay when you plug in cable is very fast - talk to Siri to get directions on MAP is very useful like when you using Iphone - The Installer told me but I forgot how to Wireless Apple Carplay if anyone can guide me ?

- Navigation is very updated (however i only use Iphone Map as it more easy to type in the address) - if i drive over limit it speaks out ! Quite fun when driving by urself

- Sound quality : oh no !!! I need your help !!! Is it 12 years old car that make the sound shit flat ? Or any one can help me equaliser the system that make it sound more bass and smooth !
- Bluetooth Music sound very flat and shit
- Bluetooth Phone Calling sound volume is very LOW

If we can not fix the sound by the car and the head unit we having now, do we have any solutions by replacing the speaker with amplifier? Please share your experience Im happy to purchase the new speaker system because Im using the car everyday so please share your upgrade speaker system for the E9x.

My post mainly for a positive life and enjoying driving our love so please share your experience if your are having the same problem **

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Hi mate, I just added mine also last week. Found that I could adjust the better base and treble through the (Original Menu). and then adjusted the Media and Call volume through the Android System, menu.
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Hi mate, I just added mine also last week. Found that I could adjust the better base and treble through the (Original Menu). and then adjusted the Media and Call volume through the Android System, menu.
How do you find it better ? Sound louder ? Quality ? Just enough to hear voice ?
Im looking for more premium sound for music like bass and subwoofer feel.
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Before anybody can make any comments on sound quality
you need to tell us which of the three BMW sound systems
you started out with.

You didn't mention the brand or model number of your new head unit.

Also does it sound worse now than what you started with?

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If you want to know what to do you must first tell us where you are
starting from. Type head unit idrive or pro radio
type sound system base system , Hi Fi , Top Hi Fi

generally the cheap Head Units do not have that good of sound quality.

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I used a couple of android HU (non idrive, eonon 9165 and 9365), and can say aftermarket amps and speakers will not help the sound much, and in some cases can make the problem worse as the signal is poor, and aftermarket equipment may be sensitive to that and clip/distort.

Use your settings to improve it as much as possible, and maybe there will be other things to try once we know which system you have, but generally it won't be "good" quality, even though it could be decent or adequate.

A true good quality audio requires a clean signal to start, and these cheap android units just don't have the quality hardware to make that happen.
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You must have not been using good or even mediocre equipment
because most of it will be the pants of an OEM system .
Also you have to understand the wiring in the car to get good results
especially if you have the base system.

You get what you pay for and you pay for what you don't pay for.
Just throwing the cheapest Chinese Android system at it is not going
to get you good audio.
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You must have not been using good or even mediocre equipment
because most of it will be the pants of an OEM system .
Also you have to understand the wiring in the car to get good results
especially if you have the base system.

You get what you pay for and you pay for what you don't pay for.
Just throwing the cheapest Chinese Android system at it is not going
to get you good audio.
Are you addressing me?

I had base audio to start, pulled out everything and put in a pioneer HU, 2 JL amps, a audio system drop in front stage, and JL sub. All sounded great.

Changed to an eonon unit (no other changes), went through three all together, across two different recent models (9165, 9365), all suffered from the same issues, poor signal resulting in poor audio quality and inability to get volume without issues.

Put my 10 year old pioneer HU back in and all is groovy.

The eonon decks are fine when paired with the oem equipment it seems (maybe they have more tolerance for signal), but going through three units with the same results in my setup, well was a no brainer to go back to my trusted pioneer.

Most Chinese android units suffer from low voltage pre outs too which doesn't help either.

If OP was using an idrive replacement type, that may also be different as I understand it connects to oem HU still via aux.
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To further the above, my HU (pioneer or eonon) always used RCA to send the signal to the amp, so no internal HU amps involved at all.

Of course I have proper power/ground wiring to the amps (or I'd have issues even with my pioneer deck), and when using the pioneer, I unofficially tested at 133db, while still keeping a clean and balanced SQ focused sound.

That eonon (and xtrons, joying, avin all use very similar type of hardware) just didn't offer good audio quality. Nothing else changed between my testing. And many of us were surprised (including 4 independent professional audio installers I know) at just how much the results changed using that deck. Especially when it seems to work reasonably well using stock hifi systems in some friends' cars that also have the eonon (but of course without any other audio upgrades).
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Sounds like you did the experiment with the cheap android chinese
units and reached the same conclusion.
They don't sound good even when paired with better amps and speakers.
Your old pioneer beat them.

A lot of people come on here looking for features and nav and think they
will get better sound just throwing a head unit at it blindly .
But there is quality difference between a 200 to 300 dollar chinese unit
and some of the brands that were trusted in the past like Pioneer, Alpine,
Kenwood and JVC. Those will make the sound somewhat better but if
you still have the BMW speakers and amps (amp if you have one) maybe not so
much.
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Firstly excuse my ignorance, I'm certainly no audio expert but I run an Avin unit paired with a USB DAC into the BMW Aux and out to Bavsound speakers. I also use an app called Precise Volume to control volume levels which also has an equaliser function. I find it a marked improvement over my old Base (no amp) system. The bottleneck is obviously the Aux so isn't there a good quality amp/dsp with a usb line in on the market, wouldn't that then bypass the BMW and Avin/Android and use the amp for all the processing?
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Some of the helix/match (Audiotec/Fisher) units have and aux or bluetooth or other Inputs.
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Sounds like you did the experiment with the cheap android chinese
units and reached the same conclusion.
They don't sound good even when paired with better amps and speakers.
Your old pioneer beat them.

A lot of people come on here looking for features and nav and think they
will get better sound just throwing a head unit at it blindly .
But there is quality difference between a 200 to 300 dollar chinese unit
and some of the brands that were trusted in the past like Pioneer, Alpine,
Kenwood and JVC. Those will make the sound somewhat better but if
you still have the BMW speakers and amps (amp if you have one) maybe not so
much.
I would place the sound quality potential* of the Chinese units somewhere between stock and name brand aftermarket (Pioneer, Alpine etc.)
Thanks to Ali-323i I was able to change the sound processor on my Eonon and I find it markedly better than my OEM system (HiFi option 676). It's feeding the factory amplifier and speakers, so the only thing that's changed is the source. Overall I'm happy with it.
And I spent a fraction of what I would have on a Pioneer or Alpine setup.

*By "potential" I mean that out of the box, the Chinese units are not well setup for good sound. When I first installed it, my Eonon was too loud and delivered a fairly loud hiss on all sources (bluetooth, CD, Radio, etc). After tweaking the pre-amp and loudness settings with the new sound processor app it sounds quite nice.
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Some of the helix/match (Audiotec/Fisher) units have and aux or bluetooth or other Inputs.
They're rare but there is a handful on the market that have Bluetooth inputs.

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Hi mate, I just added mine also last week. Found that I could adjust the better base and treble through the (Original Menu). and then adjusted the Media and Call volume through the Android System, menu.
How do you find it better ? Sound louder ? Quality ? Just enough to hear voice ?
Im looking for more premium sound for music like bass and subwoofer feel.
You normally can adjust microphone gain via a hidden menu on android head units.

I had to do this on a different vehicle to get good levels.

The manufacturer should be able to tell you the process.

On mine I had to go to settings / about / model number and tap the model number four times.

An "enter code" dialog opened up and I had to enter 1234 to get to the gains menu.
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Got an Eonon GA9165A for my E90, never been impressed, and it has been a nightmare since the first day I got it. Biggest piece of crap radio I've ever bought in my life. Do not waste your money. Doesn't do everything the listing stated it is misleading. First, the radio constantly crashes and restarts. I contacted support and offered to ship it to them. They were absolutely no help!
But still, I had to return it for a replacement.
And now I am still having constant problems with the unit.
- Poor antenna reception
-WIFI disconnects all the time
- Poor bluetooth connection
- Bad touchscreen
- Crashing Android systems
- Stuck in startup screen
- keeps freezing i have to reset it all the time it looses the memory
I did a factory reset and this removed some of the native installed apps like the phone, I even tried to do a firmware update. The radio is still glitchy.
The manual is a waste of time and the one I got has been taken off their site and off ebay.
My suggestion: keep on looking don't even think twice about EONON, this should be put out of business. Hong Kong should keep that crap over there
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Maybe I am the lucky one.
I have been searching on internet for a stereo for my Sedan which needed an upgrade in the audio/phone/navigation department., there are so many different models from different manufacturers, Eonon, Pumpkin, Avin, Erison, xtrons. I was thinking to turn to Pioneer or Kenwood. but they cost fortune and they don’t even have that many features.
After a lot of internet searching, I found an Xtrons unit that claimed to be 100% compatible with my car make and model, PA7990BIP. I bought it for approximately £250 and had it all installed from my friend’s garage. Absolutely everything worked as advertised and it has the appearance of being made for the car as promised. The audio quality is much better than my original radio. Honestly, I couldn't be happier with the product! Unfortunately, I snapped the air con panel during the installation, I contacted customer services as was struggling to find a spare bracket anywhere else. They were very helpful and when the product was out of stock ordered them directly from the factory. Instead of waiting the 2 weeks on backorder I had them in 2 days.
In the future i will order the rear view camera and the DAB receiver.
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