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      04-20-2015, 01:31 PM   #89
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Any updates on cams? I am guessing not since you haven't posted anything.

I got modding bug... Damn this forum!
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Any updates on cams? I am guessing not since you haven't posted anything.

I got modding bug... Damn this forum!
Scheduled for Wednesday but I'm asking to delay it until Monday or Tuesday of next week. Getting closer...
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Wow! You gotta be crazy to dump so much money into the n52 just for maybe 230whp . I admire your drive to do so, but damn! I love my 328i and I also loved the 1 series I had, but unless this was going into a track only car and you didn't have any other option/car to track, its not worth the money. It pains me to think the total cost all of this is costing you, but you must love your car so much, so that's cool. Congrats and good luck!!
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Wow! You gotta be crazy to dump so much money into the n52 just for maybe 230whp . I admire your drive to do so, but damn! I love my 328i and I also loved the 1 series I had, but unless this was going into a track only car and you didn't have any other option/car to track, its not worth the money. It pains me to think the total cost all of this is costing you, but you must love your car so much, so that's cool. Congrats and good luck!!
i think he will be first one net 300hp at crank, many guy with FBO already hitting 235-245whp for n52
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i think he will be first one net 300hp at crank, many guy with FBO already hitting 235-245whp for n52
I don't even have headers and I'm up 20whp. I can hopefully manage 250whp FBO.
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I don't even have headers and I'm up 20whp. I can hopefully manage 250whp FBO.
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u defiantly have a shot at 250whp,

however based on your dyno, i think the flat curve might mean the tune is not kicking on fully or not fully tuned.

with more mod each stage should have more drastic curve from all the dyno i've seen, especially with no exhaust mod

so might potential for more power there.
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Wow! You gotta be crazy to dump so much money into the n52 just for maybe 230whp . I admire your drive to do so, but damn! I love my 328i and I also loved the 1 series I had, but unless this was going into a track only car and you didn't have any other option/car to track, its not worth the money. It pains me to think the total cost all of this is costing you, but you must love your car so much, so that's cool. Congrats and good luck!!
Actually we'll be pushing 300hp and 240rwhp. But we're also reducing weight yet again heading for 3000lbs curb wet.

If you want to learn how to drive a track the biggest mistake everyone makes is buying an overpowered car. Interestingly this was brought up in Intermediate class at the track on Saturday, pretty sure most didn't believe. But then they didn't believe a 328i could blow past their Evora or R8 either. It's the driver, not the car.

My plan was to start at one end of the capability curve and modify me and the car up to our collective limit, converting the car to full race at the end with an engine swap to an S54. It'll be at 300hp with the cams, 330hp with head work and race tuning, and over 450hp with an S54. The money spent is actually cheaper than stepping up through several cars and it allows me to keep it as a daily driver in the process so I'm always practicing.

Real race cars cost upward of $300K and I'm a third of the way there and it's totally worth it at absolutely no sacrifice. I don't love the car, I love the track, huge difference. There really isn't any other choice in a car that can span the difference from relatively slow but well handling street car up to full race car. Most would learn on various cars over the years and eventually go through a couple of track builds and maybe put together a real race car but I'm guessing it's not any less expensive.

Will be fun to see how it all progresses from here and I'll keep posting about it since a lot of this can be done by those with the time to wrench it themselves but bear in mind the last round of modifications cost $27K in parts alone, virtually none of which could be sourced used. Speed costs money, ain't no lie.

Of work left to be done a full six point cage with x-ray inspection is close to ten grand, a widebody conversion with custom Forgeline wheels is close to fifteen grand if not twenty, good race shells are well over a grand each if not five grand each depending on FIA spec, engine swap with dogbox tranny and custom fittings is another thirty to forty grand depending on how exotic it all gets. So, ya know, so far it's dirt cheap in comparison... yow.

Thanks for the words of encouragement, it's kinda cool to make a 328i into what a 328i isn't supposed to be.
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I forgot your numbers were WITHOUT headers!
You'll see 300hp soon enough!
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I don't even have headers and I'm up 20whp. I can hopefully manage 250whp FBO.
Should see another twenty with headers, I think.
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i think he will be first one net 300hp at crank, many guy with FBO already hitting 235-245whp for n52
My mechanic with a n52 racecar in toronto is hitting like 320 at the wheels without supercharger

It all depends on how much money you want to throw in the car, everything is possible
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Actually we'll be pushing 300hp and 240rwhp. But we're also reducing weight yet again heading for 3000lbs curb wet.

If you want to learn how to drive a track the biggest mistake everyone makes is buying an overpowered car. Interestingly this was brought up in Intermediate class at the track on Saturday, pretty sure most didn't believe. But then they didn't believe a 328i could blow past their Evora or R8 either. It's the driver, not the car.

My plan was to start at one end of the capability curve and modify me and the car up to our collective limit, converting the car to full race at the end with an engine swap to an S54. It'll be at 300hp with the cams, 330hp with head work and race tuning, and over 450hp with an S54. The money spent is actually cheaper than stepping up through several cars and it allows me to keep it as a daily driver in the process so I'm always practicing.

Real race cars cost upward of $300K and I'm a third of the way there and it's totally worth it at absolutely no sacrifice. I don't love the car, I love the track, huge difference. There really isn't any other choice in a car that can span the difference from relatively slow but well handling street car up to full race car. Most would learn on various cars over the years and eventually go through a couple of track builds and maybe put together a real race car but I'm guessing it's not any less expensive.

Will be fun to see how it all progresses from here and I'll keep posting about it since a lot of this can be done by those with the time to wrench it themselves but bear in mind the last round of modifications cost $27K in parts alone, virtually none of which could be sourced used. Speed costs money, ain't no lie.

Of work left to be done a full six point cage with x-ray inspection is close to ten grand, a widebody conversion with custom Forgeline wheels is close to fifteen grand if not twenty, good race shells are well over a grand each if not five grand each depending on FIA spec, engine swap with dogbox tranny and custom fittings is another thirty to forty grand depending on how exotic it all gets. So, ya know, so far it's dirt cheap in comparison... yow.

Thanks for the words of encouragement, it's kinda cool to make a 328i into what a 328i isn't supposed to be.
Awesome! Best of luck!
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Actually we'll be pushing 300hp and 240rwhp. But we're also reducing weight yet again heading for 3000lbs curb wet.

If you want to learn how to drive a track the biggest mistake everyone makes is buying an overpowered car. Interestingly this was brought up in Intermediate class at the track on Saturday, pretty sure most didn't believe. But then they didn't believe a 328i could blow past their Evora or R8 either. It's the driver, not the car.

My plan was to start at one end of the capability curve and modify me and the car up to our collective limit, converting the car to full race at the end with an engine swap to an S54. It'll be at 300hp with the cams, 330hp with head work and race tuning, and over 450hp with an S54. The money spent is actually cheaper than stepping up through several cars and it allows me to keep it as a daily driver in the process so I'm always practicing.

Real race cars cost upward of $300K and I'm a third of the way there and it's totally worth it at absolutely no sacrifice. I don't love the car, I love the track, huge difference. There really isn't any other choice in a car that can span the difference from relatively slow but well handling street car up to full race car. Most would learn on various cars over the years and eventually go through a couple of track builds and maybe put together a real race car but I'm guessing it's not any less expensive.

Will be fun to see how it all progresses from here and I'll keep posting about it since a lot of this can be done by those with the time to wrench it themselves but bear in mind the last round of modifications cost $27K in parts alone, virtually none of which could be sourced used. Speed costs money, ain't no lie.

Of work left to be done a full six point cage with x-ray inspection is close to ten grand, a widebody conversion with custom Forgeline wheels is close to fifteen grand if not twenty, good race shells are well over a grand each if not five grand each depending on FIA spec, engine swap with dogbox tranny and custom fittings is another thirty to forty grand depending on how exotic it all gets. So, ya know, so far it's dirt cheap in comparison... yow.

Thanks for the words of encouragement, it's kinda cool to make a 328i into what a 328i isn't supposed to be.
Could have picked up one of these Bimmerworld 328i race cars for $68k. Over $230k into each one!

http://store.bimmerworld.com/bimmerw...ars-p2296.aspx
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http://store.bimmerworld.com/bimmerw...ars-p2296.aspx
Helluva deal. But then I'd have to have a daily driver. And a trailer. And a tow vehicle. And be advanced enough to be allowed to use R-Comp tires. Definitely a helluva lot more expensive. Would be really cool though. Then again the maintenance would be really really painful....
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Helluva deal. But then I'd have to have a daily driver. And a trailer. And a tow vehicle. And be advanced enough to be allowed to use R-Comp tires. Definitely a helluva lot more expensive. Would be really cool though. Then again the maintenance would be really really painful....
Yea plus by straight up buying a car like that you miss out on the fun part, the modding!
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Yea plus by straight up buying a car like that you miss out on the fun part, the modding!
There ya go! heh

That and can you imagine trying to learn to drive one of these? Damn but that'd be crazy hard to do.

A couple of weeks back there was a fully track prepped M3 (E46 I think) with cage, race exhaust, you name it and totally not street legally. But the driver was running in the same Intermediate group I was in so he had to use street tires, PSS to be exact and new, even had the stickers still on em when he rolled it off the trailer.

And I was able to consistently catch him and get a point by and increase my lead with each succeeding corner. No point going to a race car until I'm able to drive one like it's designed to be driven I figure.
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There ya go! heh

That and can you imagine trying to learn to drive one of these? Damn but that'd be crazy hard to do.

A couple of weeks back there was a fully track prepped M3 (E46 I think) with cage, race exhaust, you name it and totally not street legally. But the driver was running in the same Intermediate group I was in so he had to use street tires, PSS to be exact and new, even had the stickers still on em when he rolled it off the trailer.

And I was able to consistently catch him and get a point by and increase my lead with each succeeding corner. No point going to a race car until I'm able to drive one like it's designed to be driven I figure.
Oh I agree. On my first event EVER last year there was a E60 540i going around turns faster than me, I was like Da fuck? lmao!
But then again I think he was at the upper end of the beginner group because there were a few E46 M3s that could not get by in the corners
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Oh I agree. On my first event EVER last year there was a E60 540i going around turns faster than me, I was like Da fuck? lmao!
But then again I think he was at the upper end of the beginner group because there were a few E46 M3s that could not get by in the corners
Heh. It's an eye opener ain't it? But it sure is fun.
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Forgot to mention the car goes into the shop Monday morning for the cams. No idea how long it'll take though.
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Yeah I have no doubt. I contacted him about parts and unfortunately most of them are one-off cam sets for his car only. Has he ever dyno'ed?
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