[woodex m.e.]

Originally Posted by Quick335XI

I don’t loose boost between shifts I keep it floored and have a WOT box which also does launch control at 3500rpm... car weighs less than an M5 by several hundred pounds and has more power than an M5, not less not sure why someone said it has less). It’s also awd with launch control and no shift bog. I have zero traction issues even with this power level. Well maybe not zero but very little . Hooks like mad from first gear and rockets.

I’ve been going down the 1320 since the early 90s, and 0-60 is about traction, weight and power, it’s that simple.

You have LESS power than the M5 (look at the dynos all the magazines are doing). And less area under the curve. And a slower shift times. And worse gearing...Etc.. Its all against you. The M5 is faster and you are NOT getting under 3.5 seconds with your setup, let alone 2.3.

Also, if you are getting even close to a new M5 in the 0-60 sprint, you should be driving for Ferrari or at least tuning their cars because that is the definition of magic. If you were getting what you claim, you would have the fastest 335 on the planet. Which you don't. There is no arguing your car is fast, the problem is you are being ridiculous with your claims and others are trying to bring you back to reality.

[Quick335XI]

It was a ground wires

Do you have an NLS and launch control on your car?

[Quick335XI]

Originally Posted by woodex m.e.

You have LESS power than the M5 (look at the dynos all the magazines are doing). And less area under the curve. And a slower shift times. And worse gearing...Etc.. Its all against you. The M5 is faster and you are NOT getting under 3.5 seconds with your setup, let alone 2.3.

Also, if you are getting even close to a new M5 in the 0-60 sprint, you should be driving for Ferrari or at least tuning their cars because that is the definition of magic. If you were getting what you claim, you would have the fastest 335 on the planet. Which you don't. There is no arguing your car is fast, the problem is you are being ridiculous with your claims and others are trying to bring you back to reality.

So I’ll admit, I didn’t realize the M5 was UNDERrated so much... Alex’s day 600 at crank. Having said that it looks like it’s making around 560 which is less than mine is after E85:

Combine that with SIGNIFICANTLY more weight, several hundred pounds, and equal traction and launch control it’s easy to see I’m definitely under 3.0 which lines up with my estimates. Those are the cold hard facts, simple math and physics, no need to argue anymore.

I’ll look into how I can measure it more scientifically.

[Quick335XI]

Originally Posted by shanker604

not sure what OP is smoking but i believe he needs to cut a 1.3x 60foot to run 2.3 0-60

good luck with that !

question for OP... how many cars have you seen that run 2.3 0-60 ??


friend of mine has a rs3 which runs 10.5 all day and he spent a year fine tuning his awd system for a better launch and he got 2.9 0-60. AUTOMATIC TRANS

2007 E92 335i / VRSF 5" FMIC / VRSF Charge Pipe / VRSF DCI / TurboSmart Plumb Back DV / XHP / E40 Custom Tune by Wedge / APEX ARC8 / Michelin PS4S / 11.95 @ 116 / 3.8s 0-60 / Instagram.com/silent11n54

I’m going by what an M5 is rated at which is around 2.8

And as far as auto vs manual this isn’t quarter mile we are talking about here... I only have to shift ONE time to hit 60.

[Torgus]

What I don't get is how a dual nozzle CP meth kit would flood the engine...I mean I guess if it all dumped into the CP and then drained into the IC? So it basically hydrolocked the engine?

Even then the turbos are going to push a gallon + of alcohol and water from the IC(restriction) up 2 feet of pipe past the tb and into the IM?

Glad it got fixed for free...but it sounds like there is more to this story.

[dpaul]

Originally Posted by Quick335XI

It was a ground wires

Do you have an NLS and launch control on your car?

It was a ground wire that caused the meth pump and solenoid to activate? Not sure I follow. Disconnect a ground wire and there would be no flow, not unregulated flow.

[Antetokounmpo]

Originally Posted by dpaul

It was a ground wire that caused the meth pump and solenoid to activate? Not sure I follow. Disconnect a ground wire and there would be no flow, not unregulated flow.

Exactly, coming un-grounded isn't going to open a solenoid, just reading this whole thread tells me OP has no real knowledge about how many things work, so much wrong here.

[Silent9n54]

im just here to see that manual 1-2 shift thats gonna take 0.2 sec LOL

u couldnt do 2.3 if 1st gear went to 60mph

the best comment is that he counted it in his head and its def below 3

[pits200]

Quickie.

The formula isn't simply weight to hp ratio on calcing a 0 to 60 times. 60 to 130 is the area where you could say, well the m5 is 6.9 seconds 60 to 130 therefore I muat be below that due to lower weight and higher hp.

Only way to determine is to go to the track or get a draggy but no negativity intended, I'll give you 5 to 1 on a bet that you can't get below 3

[dublin14]

Originally Posted by Antetokounmpo

I stand by my claim. If you can get under 3.5 sec i would be shocked. Also... 0-60 is a stupid metric to compare cars on nowadays. 60-130 is the real measurement of how fast a car is.

Yes! 100%. You want to see how your car compares 60-130mph is it.

[Quick335XI]

Originally Posted by dublin14

Yes! 100%. You want to see how your car compares 60-130mph is it.

Actually, NO car manufacturer lists that in their specs. But they ALL list 0-60 even for a lot of economy type cars.

0-60 matters A LOT, especially to me. It’s one of the most important specs... to me. And most car manufacturers as well.

[blown07]

Originally Posted by Quick335XI

Actually, NO car manufacturer lists that in their specs. But they ALL list 0-60 even for a lot of economy type cars.

0-60 matters A LOT, especially to me. It’s one of the most important specs... to me. And most car manufacturers as well.

For me 1/4 mile is the most important metric. What do you think your car will do in the 1/4?

[Torgus]

Originally Posted by Quick335XI

Actually, NO car manufacturer lists that in their specs. But they ALL list 0-60 even for a lot of economy type cars.

0-60 matters A LOT, especially to me. It’s one of the most important specs... to me. And most car manufacturers as well.

Modified cars usually do 60-130 to show acceleration/power as it is less traction and launch specific.

0-60 is for magazines etc.

[woodex m.e.]

Originally Posted by Antetokounmpo

Exactly, coming un-grounded isn't going to open a solenoid, just reading this whole thread tells me OP has no real knowledge about how many things work, so much wrong here.

Was thinking the same thing. Your post is nothing but pure truth. He is obviously missing some major points to how this whole thing works. Keeps quoting math and physics are the reason it works, but they are exactly the reason it doesn't work. Might as well say "It's true, because..... aliens"

Maybe we should all start a betting pool? He's obviously not going to see reality till he gets it measured. I said it in another post, but basically he is claiming the fastest accelerating 335 in the world. Which is bogus because plenty of other people have the same mods and more and they aren't getting what he claims. He thinks NLS and awd are all he needs to knock a second + off his 0-60. Plenty of others have those features too.

[Quick335XI]

Originally Posted by blown07

For me 1/4 mile is the most important metric. What do you think your car will do in the 1/4?

1/4 is the second most important figure to me... agreed it’s a very important number. I’m not sure off hand but I plan on running the car this spring to see what it’ll do. I wanted to this fall but then the motor blew and was in the shop for like four freakin months, ugh. But the reason that, “for me”, 0-60 is more important is because that’s what I do a lot, scooting around town and such, it’s a daily driver. I don’t do quarter miles near as much and never will but would do 0-60 frequently.

Also I’m going to try and get it dyno’d this week. Based on what it did with meth compared to how it feels right now, I guesstimating it should do somewhere “around” 575. It’s making around 28 to 29psi right now with fuel limiting more, would need an additional pump to make more. But, it’s so close anyway to the maximum comfortable boost on stock rods I’ll probably just leave it where it is, especially since I’m beyond happy with the performance of this beast...

My previous motor is sitting in my gagage... in about a year I’m going to send it off to Motiv or someone like that for a fully built motor with schrick cams, steel rods, je pistons, Ferrea titanium valves, closed deck and sleeves and the whole 9 yards.

I love the 335/N54 sssso much especially with the AWD capability, but if there’s ONE thing I’d change, I wish it had a 3.8L motor like the old grand nationals, that was a great displacement. 3.0 is slightly small, and Unfoetunately there’s not Much more than can be added to these With a stroker kit

[Quick335XI]

Originally Posted by Torgus

Modified cars usually do 60-130 to show acceleration/power as it is less traction and launch specific.

0-60 is for magazines etc.

I see your point but again, I don’t go around racing to 130mph lol. And “for me” 0-60 is a much more important metric - and, it’s a heckuva a lot of fun! I don’t find much fun racing from 60- 130... at all, whereas 0-60 especially in a car like this is quite a Rush! Lol.

If 60-130 is important to you that’s fine but that’s your opinion. Again 0-60 is a standard metric tons of people and all car manufacturers use. And it’s the most important to me personally... so you can focus on 60-130 and I’ll focus on 0-60 and 1320 and we’ll both be happy

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Regarding NLS...

NLS makes an ENORMOUS difference in modified high HP manual trans cars. Many people who talk about how much faster autos are just don’t know there are things that can be done to make manuals much closer to an auto. Yes autos will always be slightly faster and I don’t wanna start that debate, but NLS brings a manual MUCH closer on turbo cars by eliminating the advantage an auto has by holding boost between gears. And personally, I would NEVER own an automatic performance car. Ever.

It’s funny because someone made fun of me that I think it could make a second difference... but that’s actually exactly what difference it often makes, esp with bigger turbos. Shift Bog is a real performance killer. I’ve seen people post full second differences and then some. So, it’s not funny or a gimmick, it’s real...it made a HUGE difference in my car even back when I was FBO.

[blown07]

Originally Posted by Quick335XI

It’s funny because someone made fun of me that I think it could make a second difference... but that’s actually exactly what difference it often makes, esp with bigger turbos. Shift Bog is a real performance killer. I’ve seen people post full second differences and then some. So, it’s not funny or a gimmick, it’s real...it made a HUGE difference in my car even back when I was FBO.

Okay I'll bite. Are you saying the NLS is what has taken your car to the 2.3 sec 0 to 60 range?

[woodex m.e.]

Originally Posted by blown07

Okay I'll bite. Are you saying the NLS is what has taken your car to the 2.3 sec 0 to 60 range?

You mean the exact same feature that all the big tuners also use, but still cant match this guys claimed 0-60 time? Dont you know?....... physics bro.

[woodex m.e.]

Originally Posted by Quick335XI

So I’ll admit, I didn’t realize the M5 was UNDERrated so much... Alex’s day 600 at crank. Having said that it looks like it’s making around 560 which is less than mine is after E85:

Combine that with SIGNIFICANTLY more weight, several hundred pounds, and equal traction and launch control it’s easy to see I’m definitely under 3.0 which lines up with my estimates. Those are the cold hard facts, simple math and physics, no need to argue anymore.

I’ll look into how I can measure it more scientifically.

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Same peak power you dynoed but more area under the curve. You are also not under 3.0. Dont you think its odd that everyon here is telling you otherwise?

[langsbr]

OP needs to buy a draggy and put some of his "math and theory" into application. They are amazingly cheap, and INCREDIBLY accurate. That would bring OP into reality about what the car is capable of.

I find it hilarious that math and physics is quoted, but then in defense of the 0 - 60, counting in your head is used. That is some suspect math.

I also don't think OP'll buy a draggy as it will make him come to terms with reality. Especially after saying "I'll look into how I can measure it more scientifically." What do you need to look into? The Draggy DOES IT. ACCURATELY. CHEAPLY. Done.

[Torgus]

Originally Posted by langsbr

OP needs to buy a draggy and put some of his "math and theory" into application. They are amazingly cheap, and INCREDIBLY accurate. That would bring OP into reality about what the car is capable of.

I find it hilarious that math and physics is quoted, but then in defense of the 0 - 60, counting in your head is used. That is some suspect math.

I also don't think OP'll buy a draggy as it will make him come to terms with reality. Especially after saying "I'll look into how I can measure it more scientifically." What do you need to look into? The Draggy DOES IT. ACCURATELY. CHEAPLY. Done.

[dublin14]

Originally Posted by Torgus

Modified cars usually do 60-130 to show acceleration/power as it is less traction and launch specific.

0-60 is for magazines etc.

Bingo