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      05-27-2020, 12:04 AM   #1
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Deer at 70 MPH

One less E90 on the road. Sad day. BMW did its job and I am all good. Speed at impact and the lowered stance put the body of the deer right above the hood emblem, right in to the windshield, and about 60 feet from impact. Deer walked right out in front of me and my foot never made it to the brake pedal before impact. You can see where the legs impact the bumper and the body impacts the radiator area. In a moment I was Ace Ventura-ing the car to a nearby driveway with oil blowing in my face. No citations.

Insurance totaled at $10,500 minus deductible with a $1800 buy back. I own the car. Passenger curtain and steering wheel air bags deployed. Last 7 of the VIN: NN23565

What would you do!?

1. Take the cash and walk. I have a truck and live where I ride my bike to work and school.

2.Buy back the car and:
  • a) If engine (minus valve cover and oil cooler) and transmission are good, swap the N55 in to my 1980 633csi. I can fabricate what I need and everything looked good minus the valve cover and oil cooler. Part out the remainder of the e90 (interior, body and other panels, suspension, etc). Finish grad school and buy another BMW when I have the cash.
  • b) Use the e90 as a parts car and buy a 90k miles 2014 x1 35i with the insurance money plus a little extra. Swap over any performance parts and modules for a winter worthy daily and give my 200K Ram 6.7L a rest. I just like inline 6 turbos!
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Good you’re ok but yeah that was a hellavua nice example of E90. Hope you can somehow put it back together as a project but OFH seem to be ripped off from the block.
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Damn what a shame. That deer really did a number on the front end huh...

Definitely buy it back. You would make that $1800 back fairly quickly and painlessly.

I'd vote option B) but leave yourself open to picking up anything that suits your fancy. I imagine that if I were in you position I would want to keep a similar intention as the recently departed; perhaps an E92 instead? Just my 2 cents
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Good you’re ok but yeah that was a hellavua nice example of E90. Hope you can somehow put it back together as a project but OFH seem to be ripped off from the block.
Definitely ripped off the block.

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Damn what a shame. That deer really did a number on the front end huh...

Definitely buy it back. You would make that $1800 back fairly quickly and painlessly.

I'd vote option B) but leave yourself open to picking up anything that suits your fancy. I imagine that if I were in you position I would want to keep a similar intention as the recently departed; perhaps an E92 instead? Just my 2 cents
I would like a 6 speed E90.
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Happy to hear that you weren't hurt. I doubt that I'd have the patience to part it out and recoup the $1800, especially if located in Montana. A salvaged title is not the kind of car I'd like to drive, I'd take the payout and find another one.
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Wow, glad you are ok... could have been worse, lost a friend to a deer in MT back in college. They get way bigger up there in MT.

1800 on the buyback is pretty good... I'd imagine you could make your money back with a part-out. I Just wonder if that block is boat anchor at this point... Looks like the OFH is detached... either way I like the idea of an e24 with an N55... I'm a sucker for e21's, e24's and e28's.
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One less E90 on the road. Sad day. BMW did its job and I am all good. Speed at impact and the lowered stance put the body of the deer right above the hood emblem, right in to the windshield, and about 60 feet from impact. Deer walked right out in front of me and my foot never made it to the brake pedal before impact. You can see where the legs impact the bumper and the body impacts the radiator area. In a moment I was Ace Ventura-ing the car to a nearby driveway with oil blowing in my face. No citations.

Insurance totaled at $10,500 minus deductible with a $1800 buy back. I own the car. Passenger curtain and steering wheel air bags deployed. Last 7 of the VIN: NN23565

What would you do!?

1. Take the cash and walk. I have a truck and live where I ride my bike to work and school.

2.Buy back the car and:
  • a) If engine (minus valve cover and oil cooler) and transmission are good, swap the N55 in to my 1980 633csi. I can fabricate what I need and everything looked good minus the valve cover and oil cooler. Part out the remainder of the e90 (interior, body and other panels, suspension, etc). Finish grad school and buy another BMW when I have the cash.
  • b) Use the e90 as a parts car and buy a 90k miles 2014 x1 35i with the insurance money plus a little extra. Swap over any performance parts and modules for a winter worthy daily and give my 200K Ram 6.7L a rest. I just like inline 6 turbos!
I'd buy it back, use the car as a parts car; especially if you are FBO and those parts are still intact. I'd doubt the FMIC is, but that's small potatoes.

Buy another e90 335. 10k will get you a nice 335i.
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Make a great track car now. Very glad to see that your ok.
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Happy to hear that you weren't hurt. I doubt that I'd have the patience to part it out and recoup the $1800, especially if located in Montana. A salvaged title is not the kind of car I'd like to drive, I'd take the payout and find another one.
I am pretty close to WA, but yeah, the shipping of big pieces like the interior slow the process down. My location is definitely a big factor!
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Wow, glad you are ok... could have been worse, lost a friend to a deer in MT back in college. They get way bigger up there in MT.

1800 on the buyback is pretty good... I'd imagine you could make your money back with a part-out. I Just wonder if that block is boat anchor at this point... Looks like the OFH is detached... either way I like the idea of an e24 with an N55... I'm a sucker for e21's, e24's and e28's.
I'll get a better look at it tomorrow but the OFH was sheered off and the valve cover cracked from the oil fill cap to the bottom passenger corner. I replaced plugs, coils, and injectors 4k miles ago. Should be able to get 500$ from the pieces not considered anchor material should that be the case!

A N55 powered 318 would be pretty fun project...

The deer are no joke in MT. Shit, I ran over a skunk and the damn thing pushed the plastic shield in to the transmission cooler which got pushed in to the pulleys and ground a hole in the cooler. Things get big in this State!
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I'll get a better look at it tomorrow but the OFH was sheered off and the valve cover cracked from the oil fill cap to the bottom passenger corner. I replaced plugs, coils, and injectors 4k miles ago. Should be able to get 500$ from the pieces not considered anchor material should that be the case!

A N55 powered 318 would be pretty fun project...

The deer are no joke in MT. Shit, I ran over a skunk and the damn thing pushed the plastic shield in to the transmission cooler which got pushed in to the pulleys and ground a hole in the cooler. Things get big in this State!
I'd bet the corner of the cylinder head, where the "3rd" bolt attaches the OFH to the head is cracked off. Also, if you've not already stuffed something in the openings in the head where the OFH mates up, the engine has contamination in it, which makes the engine a lump of metal at this point. The most valuable parts are the drivetrain, of which you probably can't sell the engine.

I'd take the cash and find a replacement vehicle. Unless you have covered storage to dismantle the car and the ability to store/ship parts, seems like a PIA to rake in a few extra hundred dollars above the $1,800 to buy it back. Then you'll have to get rid of the carcass once the parts are salvaged. Salvage yards make money at salvage because they have the heavy equipment to move non-rolling cars once the drivetrain is pulled and the wheels are off.

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Take the money and run. Seats and steering plus rear bumper get you what like $5 bills.
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I'd bet the corner of the cylinder head, where the "3rd" bolt attaches the OFH to the head is cracked off. Also, if you've not already stuffed something in the openings in the head where the OFH mates up, the engine has contamination in it, which makes the engine a lump of metal at this point. The most valuable parts are the drivetrain, of which you probably can't sell the engine.

I'd take the cash and find a replacement vehicle. Unless you have covered storage to dismantle the car and the ability to store/ship parts, seems like a PIA to rake in a few extra hundred dollars above the $1,800 to buy it back. Then you'll have to get rid of the carcass once the parts are salvaged. Salvage yards make money at salvage because they have the heavy equipment to move non-rolling cars once the drivetrain is pulled and the wheels are off.

My 2 cents.
I do have covered storage for parts and disassembly, I did not have the chance to block off any openings in the motor. That said, my plan would be to keep the motor and trans to swap in to something older I would take the head off and clean everything. Would contamination or oxidation at this point make cleaning pointless?
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I do have covered storage for parts and disassembly, I did not have the chance to block off any openings in the motor. That said, my plan would be to keep the motor and trans to swap in to something older I would take the head off and clean everything. Would contamination or oxidation at this point make cleaning pointless?
If water gets in the block via the OFH orifices and the cracked valve cover, parts will rust quickly. If you are basically buying the engine and trans for yourself then maybe it's a different story if you can store the engine in a clean dry place. You talked about dropping the engine into a 1980's era chassis, which is a daunting task. Hassmachine is putting an N52 into his E30, and I'm not sure he's finished yet. Hass knows what he is doing too. There is a shop in PA that has dropped an N52 into an E36 318i. It requires custom engine wiring harnesses, etc. The ECU needs data inputs those older cars may not have sensors for. Doable, but not easy. But It'd be a cool car.
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If water gets in the block via the OFH orifices and the cracked valve cover, parts will rust quickly. If you are basically buying the engine and trans for yourself then maybe it's a different story if you can store the engine in a clean dry place. You talked about dropping the engine into a 1980's era chassis, which is a daunting task. Hassmachine is putting an N52 into his E30, and I'm not sure he's finished yet. Hass knows what he is doing too. There is a shop in PA that has dropped an N52 into an E36 318i. It requires custom engine wiring harnesses, etc. The ECU needs data inputs those older cars may not have sensors for. Doable, but not easy. But It'd be a cool car.
I am buying the motor and trans, and electrical for myself. The hood was tied down and the weather has been nice and dry with low relative humidity at night. The car will be stored inside through the summer and winter if needed.
The bolt on the OFH is sheered off.

With regards to swapping, I can do the wiring and my buddy is a fabricator. While it was my only one, I did swap a 3.5l from a late 80s E24 in to my E12. I had to make a new harness though no fabrication was needed.

I appreciate your and everyone's comments. The 'sounding board' that is this forum is priceless! Here are two more pictures of engine exposure. I put rags in the exposures and covered with plastic today. I'll make my final decision in the morning and pick it up with my trailer or go pull off my plates!

Keep the comments and opinions flowing please!!
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Try to turn on the engine. Manually of course. If is not locked up that is a good sign and perhaps you should consider keeping it
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I am buying the motor and trans, and electrical for myself. The hood was tied down and the weather has been nice and dry with low relative humidity at night. The car will be stored inside through the summer and winter if needed.
The bolt on the OFH is sheered off.

With regards to swapping, I can do the wiring and my buddy is a fabricator. While it was my only one, I did swap a 3.5l from a late 80s E24 in to my E12. I had to make a new harness though no fabrication was needed.

I appreciate your and everyone's comments. The 'sounding board' that is this forum is priceless! Here are two more pictures of engine exposure. I put rags in the exposures and covered with plastic today. I'll make my final decision in the morning and pick it up with my trailer or go pull off my plates!

Keep the comments and opinions flowing please!!
Lord, what a mess. Good to see the 3rd bolt didn't break the head.
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I am buying the motor and trans, and electrical for myself. The hood was tied down and the weather has been nice and dry with low relative humidity at night. The car will be stored inside through the summer and winter if needed.
The bolt on the OFH is sheered off.

With regards to swapping, I can do the wiring and my buddy is a fabricator. While it was my only one, I did swap a 3.5l from a late 80s E24 in to my E12. I had to make a new harness though no fabrication was needed.

I appreciate your and everyone's comments. The 'sounding board' that is this forum is priceless! Here are two more pictures of engine exposure. I put rags in the exposures and covered with plastic today. I'll make my final decision in the morning and pick it up with my trailer or go pull off my plates!

Keep the comments and opinions flowing please!!
Wow dude, thats pretty crazy damage... was it a big mule deer or a whitetail? Wonder how many lbs it was. The car really did its job protecting you though... the more I look at it the more I cringe on how that could have gone so much worse.

Makes me sorta glad we let the Mountain Lions go nuts here in CA... def keeps the deer population in check, which is good for the roads... horrible if you like to hunt.

Anyway... I love the swap ideas... an e21 in euro spec with an n55 would be amazing.
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That is the plan. I will pull out the radiator and turn it over. I will buy back if it moves; part ways if it does not.

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