[TunafishE93]

The n54 was a flop. It came out with awards before it started breaking down. Then it turned into best tuner engine. The funny thing about that is tuners dont take responsibility for a failure.

The positive is most things that broke was external engine issues. But to give a BMW engineer credit is like giving person credit for shitting the bed.

[aphael]

no need to hate on n52 or n54, or assert dominance over n52 owners. People don't need 400hp everyday to be daily commuting. Just enjoy your cars. That being said, the n54 is a reliability nightmare for anyone that wants to race them without extensive headroom. Not to mention the added weight makes the 335i creep into the really heavy territory.

And by comparison, its much much better than the old m54 engine due to n52 having magnesium block and valvetronic design.

[Welcome to NBA Jam]

Originally Posted by aphael

I hate the n52 and the n54 fully asserts dominance over all n52 owners. why wouldn't you want 400hp every day for commuting? you can't enjoy your car with sub-300hp. poopoo peepee

You must've missed the original post. I fixed your post for you.

[Smgs1992]

On a serious note does anyone else feel the reliability issues are blown way out of proportion on the N54? I’ve had mine almost 5yrs and besides the waterpump i havent had any problems other than a couple leaky gaskets and had to replace the plugs and coils. That’s with putting 40k miles on it.
Maybe i just got lucky but like i posted earlier these can go well over 300k miles with a bit of care

[Aceway]

Originally Posted by Smgs1992

On a serious note does anyone else feel the reliability issues are blown way out of proportion on the N54? I've had mine almost 5yrs and besides the waterpump i havent had any problems other than a couple leaky gaskets and had to replace the plugs and coils. That's with putting 40k miles on it.
Maybe i just got lucky but like i posted earlier these can go well over 300k miles with a bit of care

I've had three N54s. Two of them were absolute hell to deal with and one ran like a dream. The two cars that were nightmares was an 11 owner 90k mile 2008 135i that was beat to shreds and a single owner 115k miles 335i that had oil leaking from every possible place. My third N54 was a junkyard motor I swapped into my 335i. I refreshed everything while it was on a stand.

Majority of horror stories comes down to shitty owners. Most are not prepared for the amount of research and time you have to put in. Also, the abundance of guides and diy videos gives people confidence to work on their cars. That's great but the reality is a lot of times diyers leave their crap work for the next owner to fix. All this paired with the multiple problems that need to be tackled on some sort of scheduled interval make it easy for certain owners to let the stuff pile up. Then they add a tune or whatever and just hope for the best lol

[CTinline-six]

Originally Posted by Smgs1992

Why would i pay more for a slower car? Seriously anyone who has been in a modded 335i and a M3 knows that even with bolt ons on a M3 the 335i is faster. It does cost less too.
Value wise not sure where youre looking but i paid $14k for mine almost 5yrs ago and KBB is still valuing mine at $12.5k after i put 40k miles on it.
The M3 does sound better and can rev to the moon. It is a better track engine but for most people the 335i would be the better choice unless you spend your time at the track and even then wifh the right mods a N54 is a very capable and reliable track engine.
Dont believe me watch the youtube series “Sorted” the only car capable of completing 10laps without a failure was a 135i with twin turbos. Tanner foust said he felt the car could go all day. Some of the competition included a Viper ACR and a 911 turbo

What year and how many miles?

I'm sorry but that's just unrealistic. KBB isn't an accurate value of most cars, and even insurance companies like the one I used to work for do not use it for determining the value of a vehicle, they look at what cars are actually selling for. The newest E9x 335i is a 2013 E92 which would be 8 years old. Fact of the matter is any of the E9x cars don't hold their value, because of the general public and automotive media's fear of BMW reliability. The only cars that really hold any value are the E91 because they are so sought after by those who want them, and the M3 because it has an M badge. Even an E90 M3 can be found for the low 20's these days.

I see both 335i's and 328i's listed near me with low miles and in excellent shape for $10-12k and they sit for sale for months. They are a great value for people like us who know how to fix them and can find one cheap for 4 grand, but they don't hold their value at all.

[TunafishE93]

KBB is the most accurate for determining value since they go by what cars are sold by. Insurance companies are the ones out of touch with reality.

[Aceway]

Originally Posted by TunafishE93

KBB is the most accurate for determining value since they go by what cars are sold by. Insurance companies are the ones out of touch with reality.

My insurance gave me 13k for my manual 140k miles 335i a few months ago when I hit a deer. I was expecting closer to 8k to be honest.

[TunafishE93]

Like said out of touch with reality.

[E92William]

The N54 is so awesome that the shop cat had to have a closer look to soak in how good it is. Back when I had it parked there after it sucked a belt into the engine 3 days into ownership costing me over 2k to clean the internals up (in retrospect I think it had a coolant leak and that's what it wanted lol)

[CTinline-six]

Originally Posted by TunafishE93

Like said out of touch with reality.

Maybe so, but if your car gets totaled KBB isn't the one cutting you the check.

[3PedalJake]

Originally Posted by Bimmer_Engineer

When I was a kid I always wanted a burrow owl because of Stuart...then again I wanted a big lizard too but have you seen the way they shit???

Thinkin of trading your Bimmer for a Bitchin' Camaro? This guy gets it.

[Smgs1992]

Originally Posted by CTinline-six

What year and how many miles?

I'm sorry but that's just unrealistic. KBB isn't an accurate value of most cars, and even insurance companies like the one I used to work for do not use it for determining the value of a vehicle, they look at what cars are actually selling for. The newest E9x 335i is a 2013 E92 which would be 8 years old. Fact of the matter is any of the E9x cars don't hold their value, because of the general public and automotive media's fear of BMW reliability. The only cars that really hold any value are the E91 because they are so sought after by those who want them, and the M3 because it has an M badge. Even an E90 M3 can be found for the low 20's these days.

I see both 335i's and 328i's listed near me with low miles and in excellent shape for $10-12k and they sit for sale for months. They are a great value for people like us who know how to fix them and can find one cheap for 4 grand, but they don't hold their value at all.

2007 E92 335i 6MT 94k with sport package cold weather package Logic7 aluminum trim and coral red interior. I have no doubt i could get $12.5k for it just based on it being a manual coupe with coral red interior. Not many of those are around and someone really looking for one will pay it.

[freakystyly]

Originally Posted by E92William

The N54 is so awesome that the shop cat had to have a closer look to soak in how good it is.

My cat did the same thing, and then later that summer I pulled 2 mummified mice from my front bumper.

"Fact of the matter is any of the E9x cars don't hold their value, because of the general public and automotive media's fear of BMW reliability."

Same could be said about the F30 gen, It's interesting seeing their values drop like a rock, especially the 4 bangers.

[Nickco43]

The person who bought my black 330i is already looking for a N54 car. Shame he trashed the 330i in only a few months.

My N55 535xi only needed a $600 set of injectors when I did my initial sorting over my N52s. So far I have not had any issues with the turbo system.

[ky0u]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

Nah, my current bike is not pretend fast; still living the day.

Originally Posted by Vivek.

Not gonna lie 100% of the reason I got my e92 was because I stopped riding. My last bike (750) hit 60 in 3.2

Originally Posted by stewbets

The fact that you ride fast bikes really puts into perspective the reason why you chose such a slow car. The logic is SOUND.

Motorcycles have ruined the concept of speed for me completely. I remember being blown away when my friend installed a jb3 when it first came out. Fast forward about a decade and I'm poker faced in 600+ hp cars.

There's no touching the crazy power to weight of a liter bike or even a 600cc. It's helped mellow out my driving a ton because if I wanna go fast, I'm hopping on 2s

[Fritzer]

Originally Posted by TunafishE93

A 328i is a want to be 335i. Just like a e90 is a want to be e91 and a e92 a want to be e93. The e90 328I being the bottom of the barrel.

Weird: The lightest, stiffest, best handling possible E9x also happens to the bottom of the barrel. To me, an E90 328i or 330i with zero options besides M-Sport, 6MT, no moonroof is one of the best E90s ever made. Interesting viewpoint. Different priorities I guess, kind of laughable someone can say a E92 wants to be an appalling E93 hardtop.

[Fritzer]

Originally Posted by AlpineE93

pushrods

gross

[S65Hunter]

Originally Posted by Fritzer

gross

HPFP, Vanos, injectors, failing turbos


Grosser

[Bimmer_Engineer]

Originally Posted by 3PedalJake

Thinkin of trading your Bimmer for a Bitchin' Camaro? This guy gets it.

Back then I had a Bitchin Camaro...and a whole closet full of Def Leppard t shirts...

[Fritzer]

Originally Posted by AlpineE93

HPFP, Vanos, injectors, failing turbos


Grosser

Yep, that normally sounds like what happens when someone buys a 335i with 75k+ miles. Then, of course, put the Instagram special chinese bolt-on parts and throw an OTS tune on before doing any real maintenance.

[S65Hunter]

Originally Posted by Fritzer

Yep, that normally sounds like what happens when someone buys a 335i with 75k+ miles. Then, of course, put the Instagram special chinese bolt-on parts and throw an OTS tune on before doing any real maintenance.

True, ill give you that. But you could just turbo any LS motor with a few extra mods and have more power, be more reliable and spend a lot less money than an N54 car.