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Kyung Baek aka Jbe90 is a scammer!!!!
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08-27-2009, 03:11 PM | #1 | ||||
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Kyung Baek aka Jbe90 is a scammer!!!!
Well I've been in the hunt for a JB3 v1.3 or 1.4. Out of the blue this member messages me and says he heard from a friend I was looking for one. He says he has a JB3 v1.4 for $375 shipped to me if I'm interested. I told him 100% interested and told him I would send the money right now so he can ship right away. He responds with his paypal address and asks for an additional 5% for paypal fees. I send all the money right away with my shipping address.
Five minutes later I get a response saying... Quote:
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For the next hour I go back and forth with this guy offering to pay more money for shipping so it can get here before I leave. He says.... Quote:
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I tell him I'm putting a dispute in and ask him to close the dispute on his end and refund my money through that method. I threatened him at this point saying I would post up on the forums about this entire deal and everything he's done if I don't get this refund. I tell him I don't trust anything he's done up to this point and that I'm not messing around any longer. After a few more PM's going back and forth he says he's going to drag the dispute in paypal out as long as legally possible to make this hell on me and that I can pretty much get fucked. So now I'm sitting here with no JB3, No money and waiting for 30 days for paypal to close the dispute in my favor. This guy's info is below. If you ever come across him be VERY careful. He won't ship, lies, steals peoples money and the only way to get him to do anything is by threatening to ruin his name publicly. So here I am still fucked but at least you guys know not to deal with this guy. I'm posting this on 90forums, E46fanatics, Bimmerforums and anywhere else I think it's useful. I'm in the process of contacting his work and the local authorities. I know this might be over kill but I'm not one to play around. I'm leaving in less then a week for Germany and I want this handled prior. I hope no one else gets lured in by this guy and scammed like me. If you've had problems with this guy as well please contact me so I can get your information as well. Thanks! NOTE: I sent cash through paypal. He is waiting for the funds to withdraw out of his paypal and into his bank account. Not waiting for the funds to clear paypal. His name is :: Kyung Baek Email address is :: jb.barefox@hotmail.com Address :: I'll wait to see if he gives refund. Last edited by Tyrant 3; 08-27-2009 at 04:35 PM.. |
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08-27-2009, 03:17 PM | #3 |
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i dont' see any scamming... only part is 5% paypal fee. it should've been 3%.
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08-27-2009, 03:21 PM | #4 |
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yeah it 3%...but totally agree. paypal policy is to wait until payment clears w/c is 24 hrs before you ship anything....seller protection
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08-27-2009, 03:23 PM | #5 |
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This is the only response I'm going to make to this thread. I don't appreciate him throwing my name out there, but whatever, he can do what he wants.
I don't know where he's getting this 30 day refund from. I told him to make a dispute so that I could contact paypal and try to get it reversed immediately. If that didn't work, I initially wanted to give him his refund after it cleared into my account (which takes 3-4 days), but he didn't want to accept that. So I offered to refund him by Saturday thinking 2 days would be enough time for the payment to be well on the way to my account. He didn't want to accept this and basically said either refund him right away, or he's going to call my work and put me on blast with all my coworkers and boss, put me on blast here, and whatever else I can't remember. Anyway, I just posted this to say that I never said to wait 30 days for a refund. |
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08-27-2009, 03:26 PM | #6 | |
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4.6 No Surcharges. You agree that you will not impose a surcharge or any other fee for accepting PayPal as a payment method. You may charge a handling fee in connection with the sale of goods or services, as long as the handling fee does not operate as a surcharge and is not higher than the handling fee you charge for non-PayPal transactions. Source: https://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/we...a/USUA-outside However, in the end - it's up to what the buyer and seller agree upon. OP - I hope you guys come to an agreement and this all gets worked out.
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08-27-2009, 03:27 PM | #8 |
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He has a long history of taking money and changing the plans afterwords. Do a member search of his name. I'm not the 1st or 2nd or even 3rd person he's done this to. In addition to that it doesn't matter if the money is in your paypal or your bank account if it's a reversed transaction paypal can pull the money back out.
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08-27-2009, 03:28 PM | #9 | |
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I guess I am left wondering why the vendor should ship before funds clear and why the OP didn´t send the funds so they would clear right away.
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08-27-2009, 03:28 PM | #10 |
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Just give me back my money JB. This is bullshit I even have to post. Go to the dispute center. Hit Close Dispute and then hit refund the money. You can do this right now and it only takes 3 minutes.
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08-27-2009, 03:29 PM | #11 |
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Your getting it all wrong. I sent cash through paypal. He is waiting for the funds to withdraw out of his paypal and into his bank account. Not waiting for the funds to clear paypal.
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08-27-2009, 03:31 PM | #12 |
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08-27-2009, 03:32 PM | #13 |
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I remember the paypal fees being 4.9%, I guess I was wrong about that.
In either case, I'll still be issuing this guy his refund on Saturday as I told him I would. Won't be checking this thread anymore. Take care everyone. ps, have fun with the popcorn. |
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08-27-2009, 03:35 PM | #15 |
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lol, I should post all the pm's you sent me, but I'm not gonna stoop there with you. Basically that was the response after I got fed up with his never ending threats. It's funny that he chose to post the last sentence when that quote was about 2-3 paragraphs.
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08-27-2009, 03:35 PM | #16 |
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I think the 5% paypal fee is the least important matter at hand. But wow, I click on this thread to read the 4 posts in there and by the time I caught up, posts doubled.
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Lie #1 You said you would send as soon as I sent the money. Lie #2 You said you would refund my money but paypal won't let you. Lie #3 You decided you would go ahead and ship today. Then you changed your mind and said differently. Lie #4 You say your going to refund my money on Saturday and then PM me saying your going to drag it out as long as legally possible. Lie #5 You said your not posting in here anymore and you have like 3 or 4 times since then. Just send my money back and crawl back into your hole. |
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http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=266164
I found this thread interesting, and is probably what the OP mentioned as others getting burned. It does sound like after they did get refunded, granted they filed complaints. :Fans the flame and runs away!
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