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      11-26-2018, 12:00 PM   #1475
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Pardon my french, but damn it guys, you literally have ALL the answers on the last few pages, why are we complicatingd such a simple thing?



Take a look at my post for the rears a page or two behind, I described everything step by step.

If you use the bushings there is no need to enlarge or mill anything, just remove the old bushings, press the new ones inside and mount it, stock bolts and stock holes.

Unfortunately there are no drilled/slotted for the rear, but at the end of the day, do you really need it?
My car had drilled/slotted front and only drilled rear and it looks awesome.

F30 and E90 calipers have different offsets, that is the reason you have to either mill the F30 calipers and then use F30 discs, enlarge the holes on the car OR use an e60 disc with the bushings and do no milling or widening whatsoever.

Decide yourself for one solution or the other, no need to use both methods.
forgive me, but you know you also have very confused ideas:
1: if the rotor of the F series and 6mm can far from the caliper, I put the rotor of the E60 series gain 3mm, the other 3? so it must be milled
2: I do not need to mill anything if I mount F135i series hubs, but I do not want to mount them.
3: my bmw is 320d and not 335 so the drum of my handbrake is 160mm you have it 180, so I put the disk of the series FX4 and milled the 6 / 7mm caliper, or emit the disk of the E60 and 3 mm cutter the caliper and I have to make the bushing to the hand brake drum bell
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forgive me, but you know you also have very confused ideas:
1: if the rotor of the F series and 6mm can far from the caliper, I put the rotor of the E60 series gain 3mm, the other 3? so it must be milled
2: I do not need to mill anything if I mount F135i series hubs, but I do not want to mount them.
3: my bmw is 320d and not 335 so the drum of my handbrake is 160mm you have it 180, so I put the disk of the series FX4 and milled the 6 / 7mm caliper, or emit the disk of the E60 and 3 mm cutter the caliper and I have to make the bushing to the hand brake drum bell
Look at my pictures once again, do you see that anything is milled or machined in any way? Other than the bushings my calipers are stock and can be reused on an F30 any minute if wanted, and they fit PERFECTLY!

It's a plug and play solution, old bushings out, new ones in, e60 disc, bleed and drive.. and I'm not the only one that confirmed that.
Sebastian (the guy I bought the bushings from) sold over 20 kits ready to install with the bushings already pressed in and it worked on every single one. Maybe it's different with US cars, even though I doubt it, but on EU works 100%.

The only problem that you have on your 320d is the handbrake drum diameter, personally I would do it like Seattlesquash on page 62
https://www.e90post.com/forums/showp...postcount=1361



Fastest and simplest solution, someone that knows it's way around a welder/grinder does it in an hour.
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forgive me, but you know you also have very confused ideas:
1: if the rotor of the F series and 6mm can far from the caliper, I put the rotor of the E60 series gain 3mm, the other 3? so it must be milled
2: I do not need to mill anything if I mount F135i series hubs, but I do not want to mount them.
3: my bmw is 320d and not 335 so the drum of my handbrake is 160mm you have it 180, so I put the disk of the series FX4 and milled the 6 / 7mm caliper, or emit the disk of the E60 and 3 mm cutter the caliper and I have to make the bushing to the hand brake drum bell
Look at my pictures once again, do you see that anything is milled or machined in any way? Other than the bushings my calipers are stock and can be reused on an F30 any minute if wanted, and they fit PERFECTLY!

It's a plug and play solution, old bushings out, new ones in, e60 disc, bleed and drive.. and I'm not the only one that confirmed that.
Sebastian (the guy I bought the bushings from) sold over 20 kits ready to install with the bushings already pressed in and it worked on every single one. Maybe it's different with US cars, even though I doubt it, but on EU works 100%.

The only problem that you have on your 320d is the handbrake drum diameter, personally I would do it like Seattlesquash on page 62
https://www.e90post.com/forums/showp...postcount=1361

[IMG]https://www.e90post.com/forums/attac...8;d=1319868111[/IMG]

Fastest and simplest solution, someone that knows it's way around a welder/grinder does it in an hour.
Unfortunately, I think there is a difference with US cars or E60 discs.... but I only needed to shave off 2mm or so.
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I know that I also make this change.
*** feuer does everything still work well at the rear?
I did the swap on my car with machined calipers and it works well.
I didn't remove the rear or front dust shields.
The rears just need to be cut a little to allow the caliper to mount.

I still have all the shields from my kit sitting in the garage.
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my kit 370/345



now I have a lot to prepare color and change to the back.
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my kit 370/345



now I have a lot to prepare color and change to the back.
Where did you find these? Will they fit a 335is? Price / link?
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Where did you find these? Will they fit a 335is? Price / link?
hi, exchanged with a friend who took them on ebay.england.
sure that they mount on yours, forward well, at the rear you have to make some changes
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Front and rear installed.
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I have an E92 20d 4 cyl series.
at the rear I have handbrake drum 165, if I put E60 brake disc the drum is 180: can you change the brake shoes of larger handbrake, of another model?
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I have an E92 20d 4 cyl series.
at the rear I have handbrake drum 165, if I put E60 brake disc the drum is 180: can you change the brake shoes of larger handbrake, of another model?
Yes, enlarge shoes/pads OD, look above a few posts
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Yes, enlarge shoes/pads OD, look above a few posts
yes, I saw that change of welding over the others, but I intend to put the jaws just bigger than another model, exchanging
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brake 370 Msport front su E92 320d (4cyl) 2008

- fixing of brake caliper on wheel arm: ok original plug and play bolts
-disks 370 (zimmermann 150.2905.20) (for series Fx) on wheel hub (series
E92): ok no modification holes wheel bolts
-disk: I put bushings to reduce the hole from 14 (series F) to 12 (series E)
- 370 brake caliper on 19 Z-performance wheel rim Six: ok. in the lower part of
the caliper it is far from the 3 / 4mm rim












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Why?
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      12-07-2018, 05:50 AM   #1489
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It is not necessary to install those rings salpone. As long as the 6mm allen screw fits and the rotor hat is flush against the hub then the holes will line up.

Unless Zimmermann discs are a bit wonky with the 5 holes. Genuine discs are fine and i have used Protex discs also. No issue - save your labour
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It is not necessary to install those rings salpone. As long as the 6mm allen screw fits and the rotor hat is flush against the hub then the holes will line up.

Unless Zimmermann discs are a bit wonky with the 5 holes. Genuine discs are fine and i have used Protex discs also. No issue - save your labour
Exactly. Is important to be hub centric. But not be match the size of the lug bolts.
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yes, I understand that it's ok even without bushings, but in this way the disk will never have any movement, ever.
then I had the bushings in the old 340 plant
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