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      09-26-2021, 09:53 PM   #1
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Issues with rubing looking for advice

I have a stock 335is with the stock wheels and with 10mm spacers I rub in the rear.

I replaced my rear shocks thinking that may be why the car sitting low, as they were leaking visually, it helped, but it still happens if the car has 3 or 4 people or on bad dips.

I imagine it should not happen at all based on the forum's 10mm recommendation? Looking at my ride height it also looks low. I replaced all the relevant hardware around the shock but not the spring pads etc since I didn't touch the spring. Could that be the reason for low height?





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Why is the back lower than the front? Something is up with that. I have spacers on all my wheels and don't rub even on hard cornering and dips.
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Why is the back lower than the front? Something is up with that. I have spacers on all my wheels and don't rub even on hard cornering and dips.
Yerah idk that's kinda why I was making the post. The only other thing I assume would help the ride height is the hardware for the spring (rubber pads, etc) which I did not touch. Would like someone to confirm this before purchasing the parts...

For sure shouldn't be rubbing,every 335is post I read on here say 10mm does not rub at all.
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TheMidnightNarwhal Are you rocking wider wheels? What size tires are those?
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TheMidnightNarwhal Are you rocking wider wheels? What size tires are those?
Nah they should be the stock wheels.

Tire size in the rear are 255/30/19 and they match the placard in the door. So definitely stock set up.
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Nah they should be the stock wheels.

Tire size in the rear are 255/30/19 and they match the placard in the door. So definitely stock set up.
Ahhh dang well you got me stumped now. I'm on the same size tire.
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TheMidnightNarwhal Are you rocking wider wheels? What size tires are those?
Nah they should be the stock wheels.

Tire size in the rear are 255/30/19 and they match the placard in the door. So definitely stock set up.
Something is wrong in the front, I think that's part of your problem. It looks too high to me.

Newtons 3rd law.

What shocks did you replace the old ones with in the rear?
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All e92s sit a little higher in the front than the rear, your ride height is fine. It will vary based on how much your strut mounts have collapsed over the years (if they’re newer it will sit higher) and how much the spring pads, etc. have worn. But generally in stock form e92s have more wheel gap in the front than the rear
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Have you pulled the wheel off to see what is rubbing?
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      10-03-2021, 02:02 PM   #10
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Something is wrong in the front, I think that's part of your problem. It looks too high to me.

Newtons 3rd law.

What shocks did you replace the old ones with in the rear?
Idk front looks pretty stock to me. My old IS was like this.

Yes replaced old shocks in rear.
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To me it looks a little raked up on the front but that shouldn't affect the rubbing. How many km's? Perhaps your subframe bushings are worn out and allowing more movement. And a little bit of neg. camber will help.
Does it rub both sides? And seem to rub while cornering?
10mm is a pretty mild spacer with an otherwise stock setup.
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To me it looks a little raked up on the front but that shouldn't affect the rubbing. How many km's? Perhaps your subframe bushings are worn out and allowing more movement. And a little bit of neg. camber will help.
Does it rub both sides? And seem to rub while cornering?
10mm is a pretty mild spacer with an otherwise stock setup.
Car is at 148 000KM.

So it mostly rubs on the right side. But really only when the car is packed you know. I guess it's to be expected and these posts about no rubbing are with only 1 person ion the car.

The worse was with my kayak on the roof and stuff in the trunk and me alone.

Never happens with cornering at the moment with 10mm. So I guess I'll continue as is.
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Have you pulled the wheel off to see what is rubbing?
Seems to be on the fender liner I believe. It's hard to confirm though. But by feel it really can't be on the fender it's to inside for it's the liner.
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Seems to be on the fender liner I believe. It's hard to confirm though. But by feel it really can't be on the fender it's to inside for it's the liner.
Put your car on jack stands and load up the rear suspension so that it's fully compressed and look around to see where it's rubbing.
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Have you gotten the alignment checked lately? The rears are 39 offset , right? (I know its a dumb question)
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Have you gotten the alignment checked lately? The rears are 39 offset , right? (I know its a dumb question)
No idea on alignment as I only got this car few months ago. But like, the car felt properly aligned and the rear factory camber is there. Yep ET39 offset.

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Put your car on jack stands and load up the rear suspension so that it's fully compressed and look around to see where it's rubbing.
Thanks for the trick I had no idea idea how to check.
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Put your car on jack stands and load up the rear suspension so that it's fully compressed and look around to see where it's rubbing.
Alright. So the results weren't really clear, have a hard time understanding where it's rubbing. I guess it's really on bad dips and on the absolute edge of the tire.







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[QUOTE=TheMidnightNarwhal;28218558]Alright. So the results weren't really clear, have a hard time understanding where it's rubbing. I guess it's really on bad dips and on the absolute edge of the tire.

Load up the rear suspension so that it's at full compression.
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Load up the rear suspension so that it's at full compression.

That's what I did in the pics. Front was on ground, rear on stands. Then I jacked the knuckle at the arm. Then the car just starts lifting so it's the most I can put.
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That's what I did in the pics. Front was on ground, rear on stands. Then I jacked the knuckle at the arm. Then the car just starts lifting so it's the most I can put.
You would either have to add weight to load the suspension even more or buy some washable spray chalk and spray the inside of the wheel well and go induce some rubbing.

Typically with rubbing you can just pull the wheel off and you can tell visually where it's rubbing because it'll leave a rubber streak.
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The E92 naturally rides a bit high on the front, I installed a set of spring lowering perches on the front and it brought it down nearly 1/2". The picture is shortly after installing perches up front. I think that I've read that some members installed new bump stops to help rubbing when carrying people or heavier loads. Where is it rubbing, inside or out on the fender? A spacer may make it look flush but it may also cause the rubbing.
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You would either have to add weight to load the suspension even more or buy some washable spray chalk and spray the inside of the wheel well and go induce some rubbing.

Typically with rubbing you can just pull the wheel off and you can tell visually where it's rubbing because it'll leave a rubber streak.
Yeah it rubs near where the bumper meets the fender, just a little bit above that on the inside. It still doesn't explain why I have this and most others don't? I mean I guess it's just my roads around here and I just have to deal with it.
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