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02-25-2013, 06:41 PM | #23 |
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Seems expensive cars depreciate more than cheaper cars for some reason. I had a 02 eclipse gt for 5 years bought used and lost 10k from purchase to trade. Then I had a 10 tc bought new and traded in 6 months and lost 8k. Got my 07 328i used for 18k with 54k miles. So buying used usually works out way better in the long run.
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02-25-2013, 06:58 PM | #24 |
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It's not that expensive cars depreciate faster, it's just that they tend to come with high margin, overpriced options.
The depreciation is the difference between what the car is worth and what you paid for it. Like paying for a $3000 leather seat upgrade, whereas it only cost the factory $50 over the seats that were already in there. Same deal with all of the over-priced upgrades. (Like rear seat entertainment. They want close to $4k for a 7" screen with DVD. You can buy a blue ray player, and a 80" TV for that price....) Prime example is the Cadillac SUV's. They are nothing more than a regular Chevrolet, with VERY expensive upgrades. In a couple of years, the Caddy has depreciated to a point where it's marginally more expensive than the equilavent Chevy, but the depreciation is substancially more. |
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02-25-2013, 07:16 PM | #26 | |
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02-25-2013, 07:24 PM | #27 | |
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Bring on the cheerios and ramen noodles, because I've gotta make that M6 payment!
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02-25-2013, 08:32 PM | #28 |
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I used to think the used is always a better value, but when I bought my 128i in 2010, a new car was $31K and the used ones 2 years old, (similarly optioned) were $26-27k. Since I was planning on keeping this car for around 8 years and 100k miles, I reasonsed the $4-5k I was saving at the beginning would be at the expense of owning a 2-3years older car past 100k miles, it just didn't seem worth it.
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02-25-2013, 10:46 PM | #29 | |
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Just out of curiosity "overheadvalve" would you be willing pull and share some details on a recent Manheim list for 2011 335d's? I just want to compare what I paid to what they are getting wholesale. Thanks |
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02-26-2013, 01:04 AM | #30 |
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Assuming you never get rid of your car, depreciation (or true up to market values) means nothing unless you cut a balance sheet on your assets. My point: just drive your car.
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02-26-2013, 08:33 AM | #31 | |
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'11 15k miles $28k thats Adesa btw Last edited by Kolyan2k; 02-26-2013 at 11:31 AM.. |
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02-26-2013, 09:55 AM | #32 | |
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Price Miles 1.$30000.00 28363 2.$29600.00 15288 3.$32250.00 17610 4.$25250.00 63049 5.$28500.00 30320 6.$29500.00 32575 7.$34000.00 9801 |
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02-26-2013, 11:09 AM | #33 |
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Luxury cars are the worse because most people buying them only want lease or new. Honestly I don't care because I bought my 2 years old and I am going to keep mine until the wheels fall off.
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02-26-2013, 05:39 PM | #34 |
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Thanks. Going rate (list) seems to be around $33k-$36k at around 30k miles, so these wholesale numbers seem inline if not a bit low. How much should a dealer expect to make? I took a look at a couple local auctions before I bought and I couldn't find any D's to speak of but then again, I easily could have missed them.
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02-26-2013, 06:01 PM | #35 | |
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Just a few thousand more and you can have 15-20K miles instead of 50-60. |
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02-26-2013, 06:06 PM | #36 | |
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Well, people should live within their means. OTOH, some of us will happily eat Cheerios if we have a beautiful car in the garage |
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02-26-2013, 06:32 PM | #37 | |
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02-26-2013, 06:43 PM | #38 | |
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02-27-2013, 09:49 AM | #39 | |
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02-27-2013, 10:53 AM | #40 |
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Here ya go. Nine sold from 1/30/13 to 2/26/13 nationally.
Price Miles $30000.00 7967 $22600.00 49815 $23800.00 21689 $26600.00 13798 $22900.00 22235 $26250.00 12806 $23500.00 47562 $22500.00 29428 $26000.00 14202 |
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02-27-2013, 01:38 PM | #42 |
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Demand is driven by how many are on the market. How many lease returns are available, etc.
That being said, OP, I never buy new cars. I wait for someone like you (no offense) panic and sell after they have eaten the big up front depreciation. All my BMW's have been pre-owned and 3-5 years old. My current one I got for less than 50% of MSRP after 3 years and one owner. I love expensive cars on the other guys dime....... 8-) |
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02-27-2013, 09:25 PM | #43 |
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Saw a real interesting article in the February Bimmer magazine that talks about how the E90s hold their value over the long haul. You're not going to be able to get the full purchase price back on any car that you buy, but it seems that the E90s are as safe a bet as you can get these days.
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