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      02-06-2019, 06:46 AM   #1
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Challengers vs BMW

I'm having an debate with my buddy, a 2018 Dodge Challenger RT stock faster than a 08 335i stock
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      02-06-2019, 07:14 AM   #2
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I'd say stock for stock it would be an even race assuming nothing is wrong with your car. Bone stock 335i is slow as hell.
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      02-06-2019, 07:16 AM   #3
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If I put a JB4 will it beat the challenger easily?
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      02-06-2019, 07:18 AM   #4
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If I put a JB4 will it beat the challenger easily?
Yes, but why put JB4? Just get MHD, it is more user friendly.
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      02-06-2019, 07:21 AM   #5
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What is the difference between the MHD and the JB4. I'm not a car expert and is the MHD cheaper than the JB4
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      02-06-2019, 07:22 AM   #6
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      02-06-2019, 07:25 AM   #7
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What is the difference between the MHD and the JB4. I'm not a car expert and is the MHD cheaper than the JB4
MHD is more straight to the point and user friendly than the JB4. With the JB4, you have to go hookup piggyback connections in the engine bay and it isn't a true tune. However, if you don't mind doing that then go ahead. MHD is cheap, you can get your car tuned for $150. Unless you find a JB4 really cheap and have a basic understanding of how to use it, most people tend to stick with MHD. Oh I forgot to mention, you can use a cheap android tablet and it requires an OBD to OTG cable.
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What is the difference between the MHD and the JB4. I'm not a car expert and is the MHD cheaper than the JB4
MHD is more straight to the point and user friendly than the JB4. With the JB4, you have to go hookup piggyback connections in the engine bay and it isn't a true tune. However, if you don't mind doing that then go ahead. MHD is cheap, you can get your car tuned for $150. Unless you find a JB4 really cheap and have a basic understanding of how to use it, most people tend to stick with MHD. Oh I forgot to mention, you can use a cheap android tablet and it requires an OBD to OTG cable.
Alrighty thanks. Any estimate of HP will it get from the MHD? And how much of a distance it will be from the 2018 Challenger
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Alrighty thanks. Any estimate of HP will it get from the MHD? And how much of a distance it will be from the 2018 Challenger
1.5 bus lengths in gap terms. Could be 2.
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1.5 bus lengths in gap terms. Could be 2.
Hmm...? How long is the bus? Is Feb 2019 and people are still discussing jb4 vs MHD
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straightline both are competitive but in the corners the 335i would destroy a challenger.
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Hmm...? How long is the bus? Is Feb 2019 and people are still discussing jb4 vs MHD
That's because Google hasn't been invented yet.
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Hmm...? How long is the bus? Is Feb 2019 and people are still discussing jb4 vs MHD
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Not a single anti-street racing comment here. I recall making a comment in a thread like this, then the thread got split by mods - suddenly I had everyone on the forum fussing at me for street racing. Wow, times have changed.....in 6 months.
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Not a single anti-street racing comment here. I recall making a comment in a thread like this, then the thread got split by mods - suddenly I had everyone on the forum fussing at me for street racing. Wow, times have changed.....in 6 months.
read the OPs post..he never mentions street racing
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read the OPs post..he never mentions street racing
Cmon we all know when we talk about straights lines it's coming off from a stoplight

And there is nothing wrong with that anyway IMO
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It's not street racing until I get it out if third.

As far as how long is a bus length, it totally depends on what bus one took took school.
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This Challenger 392 pulled up next to me at a stoplight and it just happened that I accelerated faster than he did in a straight line. I am FBO with Pure Stage 2 DDs and inlets running E60 so it is not much of a comparison when for stock 335i
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This Challenger 392 pulled up next to me at a stoplight and it just happened that I accelerated faster than he did in a straight line. I am FBO with Pure Stage 2 DDs and inlets running E60 so it is not much of a comparison when for stock 335i
So your saying the 335i don't stand a chance?
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Ppl can say what they want, a 10 year old 335i can still do a good job and like TemjinX2 said, the 335i can take corners awesome.
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So your saying the 335i don't stand a chance?
The 392 is like a 100+ hp jump from the RT I think the RT makes around around 330 to the wheel while 335is make around 270. The 400-500 lb weight difference is what ruins it for the challenger so I think a 335i could give the challenger a run for its money.
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Stage 1 tune on my n54 and I was able to pull past SRT8's/RT/5.0/5th Gen SS. Never lined up against a 392 specifically.
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