[Impac]

Hey every one i have found two methods to Update CIC with icom which is correct? Or are they both correct

Update Order
63,62,A0

Option 1
0 - Move Car Key to position 2
1 - Connect ICOM B (MOST) to any available MOST (fiber optic) Connector. Connect the USB cable between it and the ICOM module.
2 - Connect OBD connector to ICOM Module.
3 - Connect ICOM to Laptop via Ethernet cable.
4 - Start up Itool Radar and Reserve the ICOM slot. (You'll need to search for ITool Radar).
5 - I usually use the EasyConnect after ITOOL to select the MOST bus ASYNC setting and LOCK Icom.
6 - Start up WINKFP and select comfort mode
7 - Select Update ZUSB
8 - From the list, select CI63F1 first and click OK.
9 - Enter VIN
10 - Click DONE.
11 - In Next window, Click PROG-ZUSB.
12 - Blue bar will start - This step will take about 35-40 minutes. CIC screen will turn black and cic fan will be blowing at full speed.
13 -Select Update ZUSB again
14 - From the list, select CI62F1 and click OK.
15- Enter VIN
16 - Click DONE.
17 - In Next window, Click PROG-ZUSB.
18 - This step takes about 7-10 minutes.
19 - Lastly Select Update ZUSB again
20 - From the list, select CIA0F1 and click OK.
21 - Enter VIN
22 - Click DONE.
23 - In Next window, Click PROG-ZUSB.
24 - Screen might come up with BMW symbol and bootloader mode.
25 - This step takes about 45 minutes
And code default cic

Option 2

There are three modules to flash. 63 is the first one. Go to c:\ec-apps\nfs\data and rename "develop_63" to "develop".

63:

-Configure ICOM for MOST_ASYNC_ab625
-Open WinKFP
-Select expert mode
-PABD = 08010408CI63F1.ipo (be carefully, do not choose CM63)
-P-SGBD = 33CI63F1_10.prg (be carefully, do not choose CM63)
-ECU-adress = 63
-Data = A9257174
-Program = 9257170
-NAAB = H020270_0202J5

WinKFP will complain about incorrect files and other things when you select the files, just ignore the complaints.

Now select done and you will get back to main menu. Now everything is ready for flash (also you have power supply connected, ignition on and cd/dvd removed from CIC). At this point you can turn on windows task manager (taskmgr.exe) because WinKFP progress meter will not work when flashing cic. Select "Program NAAB" and bootloader flash starts. CIC goes to bootloader mode and fan spins at full speed, this is normal. Screen shows bootloader picture or turns black, depending on old firmware version. Now you must be patient because the meter is not working. It will go to 100% and do all kind of things, just wait until "bootsector update finished" appears. Next select program program. Same precautions for this, it takes around 30 minutes to flash 63 program. After program programming has finished, select program data.

62:

Now you have flashed 63. Next you must flash 62. Go to c:\ec-apps\nfs\data and delete develop folder. Then rename develop_62_exx to develop. Go back to list on 63: on this guide. Configure WinKFP just like on that list, except change three bolded 63's to 62. Also select new data, program and NAAB files. If you did the folder swap (delete develop folder, rename develop_62_exx -> develop) correctly, there are just the correct files available. Select done and perform flash in the same order: NAAB, program, data. 62 is quite fast to flash, maybe five minutes for each part.

A0:

Now you know how to do this. Only difference is that A0 has only program, not data or NAAB. Delete old develop folder, rename develop_a0 to develop. Go again back to list on 63 on this guide, change three bolded 63's to A0. On this module you can't select data or NAAB, just select program and then select done. Choose program program. It takes around 30 minutes to program A0

[Sensible_]

Both are for different things.

1 - This is for simply updating the CIC. Winkfp will choose the required for you automatically. Just flash in the order shown, 63,62,A0

The update is done via winkfp comfort mode.

2 - This is for flashing the CIC with specific files. For example and downgrade or region change. Again, the flash order it the same, 63,62,A0

This is done using winkfp expert mode.

Whatever outcome you want, make sure you use minimum of an ICOM A2 and B and have at least a 50a power supply connected to the car. Otherwise there is 99% chance you'll brick the CIC.

[Impac]

Thank you for explaining, now this makes sense to me.

[Nick080122]

Hi everybody I'm after a bid of advice that is driving me mad,I have ece 1.8.2. 2009. And have been in touch bmw who say I can only update with usb ,the garage says has to be done by software,and back and too it goes and I can't update by map ,

[pelon222]

Originally Posted by Impac

Hey every one i have found two methods to Update CIC with icom which is correct? Or are they both correct

Update Order
63,62,A0

Option 1
0 - Move Car Key to position 2
1 - Connect ICOM B (MOST) to any available MOST (fiber optic) Connector. Connect the USB cable between it and the ICOM module.
2 - Connect OBD connector to ICOM Module.
3 - Connect ICOM to Laptop via Ethernet cable.
4 - Start up Itool Radar and Reserve the ICOM slot. (You'll need to search for ITool Radar).
5 - I usually use the EasyConnect after ITOOL to select the MOST bus ASYNC setting and LOCK Icom.
6 - Start up WINKFP and select comfort mode
7 - Select Update ZUSB
8 - From the list, select CI63F1 first and click OK.
9 - Enter VIN
10 - Click DONE.
11 - In Next window, Click PROG-ZUSB.
12 - Blue bar will start - This step will take about 35-40 minutes. CIC screen will turn black and cic fan will be blowing at full speed.
13 -Select Update ZUSB again
14 - From the list, select CI62F1 and click OK.
15- Enter VIN
16 - Click DONE.
17 - In Next window, Click PROG-ZUSB.
18 - This step takes about 7-10 minutes.
19 - Lastly Select Update ZUSB again
20 - From the list, select CIA0F1 and click OK.
21 - Enter VIN
22 - Click DONE.
23 - In Next window, Click PROG-ZUSB.
24 - Screen might come up with BMW symbol and bootloader mode.
25 - This step takes about 45 minutes
And code default cic

Option 2

There are three modules to flash. 63 is the first one. Go to c:\ec-apps\nfs\data and rename "develop_63" to "develop".

63:

-Configure ICOM for MOST_ASYNC_ab625
-Open WinKFP
-Select expert mode
-PABD = 08010408CI63F1.ipo (be carefully, do not choose CM63)
-P-SGBD = 33CI63F1_10.prg (be carefully, do not choose CM63)
-ECU-adress = 63
-Data = A9257174
-Program = 9257170
-NAAB = H020270_0202J5

WinKFP will complain about incorrect files and other things when you select the files, just ignore the complaints.

Now select done and you will get back to main menu. Now everything is ready for flash (also you have power supply connected, ignition on and cd/dvd removed from CIC). At this point you can turn on windows task manager (taskmgr.exe) because WinKFP progress meter will not work when flashing cic. Select "Program NAAB" and bootloader flash starts. CIC goes to bootloader mode and fan spins at full speed, this is normal. Screen shows bootloader picture or turns black, depending on old firmware version. Now you must be patient because the meter is not working. It will go to 100% and do all kind of things, just wait until "bootsector update finished" appears. Next select program program. Same precautions for this, it takes around 30 minutes to flash 63 program. After program programming has finished, select program data.

62:

Now you have flashed 63. Next you must flash 62. Go to c:\ec-apps\nfs\data and delete develop folder. Then rename develop_62_exx to develop. Go back to list on 63: on this guide. Configure WinKFP just like on that list, except change three bolded 63's to 62. Also select new data, program and NAAB files. If you did the folder swap (delete develop folder, rename develop_62_exx -> develop) correctly, there are just the correct files available. Select done and perform flash in the same order: NAAB, program, data. 62 is quite fast to flash, maybe five minutes for each part.

A0:

Now you know how to do this. Only difference is that A0 has only program, not data or NAAB. Delete old develop folder, rename develop_a0 to develop. Go again back to list on 63 on this guide, change three bolded 63's to A0. On this module you can't select data or NAAB, just select program and then select done. Choose program program. It takes around 30 minutes to program A0

Did method one work for you??

[mike5124]

Originally Posted by Sensible_

Both are for different things.

1 - This is for simply updating the CIC. Winkfp will choose the required for you automatically. Just flash in the order shown, 63,62,A0

The update is done via winkfp comfort mode.

2 - This is for flashing the CIC with specific files. For example and downgrade or region change. Again, the flash order it the same, 63,62,A0

This is done using winkfp expert mode.

Whatever outcome you want, make sure you use minimum of an ICOM A2 and B and have at least a 50a power supply connected to the car. Otherwise there is 99% chance you'll brick the CIC.

Hello, thank you for this information.

I was wondering if it was possible to update CIC with the engine running? I'm eager in updating my system and I was wondering if it would be possible and what risks would it bring?

[elthox]

If no charger, jump the car to another one. No engine running

[mizta insane]

do not update with kdcan, you will brick cic.

[mike5124]

Originally Posted by elthox

If no charger, jump the car to another one. No engine running

Originally Posted by mizta insane

do not update with kdcan, you will brick cic.

Thanks for your input. I don't really understand the jump starting it to another car, wouldn't that kill both batteries?

Anyways, I was able to update my CIC with an ICOM Next A+B cable while my engine was running. I was having issues with my power supply which didn't let my ICOM create a stable connection (the power supply I had was very crude).

The update went through perfectly, now running .C1A firmware and I am now able to finish my retrofit.

[pavjayt]

Originally Posted by Sensible_

Both are for different things.

1 - This is for simply updating the CIC. Winkfp will choose the required for you automatically. Just flash in the order shown, 63,62,A0

The update is done via winkfp comfort mode.

2 - This is for flashing the CIC with specific files. For example and downgrade or region change. Again, the flash order it the same, 63,62,A0

This is done using winkfp expert mode.

Whatever outcome you want, make sure you use minimum of an ICOM A2 and B and have at least a 50a power supply connected to the car. Otherwise there is 99% chance you'll brick the CIC.

Can I use Option1 to update retrofitted CIC in a E61 LCI? The donor CIC came from a 2010 E60 LCI and the software hasnt been updated since 2011. Trying to update with v41 daten files. Not sure if E60 daten files include CIC files.

I am having issues trying to update using Option2, thinking of trying Option1.

Another question regarding Step5

5 - I usually use the EasyConnect after ITOOL to select the MOST bus ASYNC setting and LOCK Icom.

Is this refering to setup EasyConnect as

Type: REMOTE
IP: ip-address of ICOM from itoolradar
Mode: MOST_ASYNC

thanks

[pavjayt]

I just gave this one another try and I am facing the same error as few months back, anyone have any insights or helpful suggestions for my issue?

Tried both MOST_ASYNC and MOST_ASYNC_ab625 modes with same error
iToolRadar works fine and was able to reserve the IP and then EasyConnect to set the modes (setting ICOM Lock selection)



and here is the info about the modules in INPA


and screenshot of UIF


thanks

[ccfj1]

what error are you getting??

[E92_James]

Originally Posted by mike5124

Thanks for your input. I don't really understand the jump starting it to another car, wouldn't that kill both batteries?

Anyways, I was able to update my CIC with an ICOM Next A+B cable while my engine was running. I was having issues with my power supply which didn't let my ICOM create a stable connection (the power supply I had was very crude).

The update went through perfectly, now running .C1A firmware and I am now able to finish my retrofit.

How long did it take to update your CIC? I'm planning on buying an ICOM and flashing my CIC to C1A

[mike5124]

Originally Posted by E92_James

How long did it take to update your CIC? I'm planning on buying an ICOM and flashing my CIC to C1A

There's notes on the update that tell you the time, but approx. it was 30 min for the first part, 10 min for the second part, and about 45 min for the third part.

[ccfj1]

Sounds right.

budget for 2 hours in total to do the flash

[aohus]

is an ICOM still needed if the car can accept OBD to ethernet? or would it still be really slow

[ccfj1]

depends on if you think over 24hours to do the update is slow?

if you have a garage and an a prpoer 12v tender and are happy to leave the ignition on for that long then you might be able to do it that way, ist not a chance i would take.

[aohus]

Originally Posted by ccfj1

depends on if you think over 24hours to do the update is slow?

if you have a garage and an a prpoer 12v tender and are happy to leave the ignition on for that long then you might be able to do it that way, ist not a chance i would take.

yeah its not recommended. you apparently need an emulator if you want to run on a dcan cable. i have a voltage stabilizer PSU as well but probably better to just go with an ICOM

[deepblonde]

I’ve read ICOM next may not work as well as older A2 ICOM?
Maybe I should ask seller to swap to older A2 if hasn’t sent yet?

[ccfj1]

Update the firmware on the icom to the very latest and you should be ok.

[mike5124]

Originally Posted by deepblonde

I’ve read ICOM next may not work as well as older A2 ICOM?
Maybe I should ask seller to swap to older A2 if hasn’t sent yet?

I was able to do it on ICOM Next with no issues

[alsamaraie]

Hi,

Thank you all for sharing your information and sorry for bringing up this old thread.

By mistake I started the update of CI63F1 using the ICOM next without the Next B (optic adapter).

As you all may know it will take many hours. I ordered the adapter now I still have the laptop on and the update is ongoing.

My question is: is it ok to terminate the update and started again when I will receive the adapter?

Thank you in advance