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      01-31-2020, 05:31 PM   #2311
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Would someone be able to have a quick look at this ebay item and suggest if it will be suitable to clone an MSV70 DME please?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/153239244128

It looks like it has a siemens connector for the circuit board but I don't see how this would be connected to power pins as shown at the bottom of the third picture in the first post of this thread.
I'd look at the Kess

But remember these are all Knock-offs and can be a crap shoot. I used a Galleto and it was a nightmare to install the software.

You will need to solder a BDM plug into the board.
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Would someone be able to have a quick look at this ebay item and suggest if it will be suitable to clone an MSV70 DME please?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/153239244128

It looks like it has a siemens connector for the circuit board but I don't see how this would be connected to power pins as shown at the bottom of the third picture in the first post of this thread.
better buy pogo pins spring loaded, much easery than soldering contacts.
you can buy from ecubay.com, and than you need k-tag (clone is ok)
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      02-17-2020, 06:46 AM   #2313
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I'd look at the Kess

But remember these are all Knock-offs and can be a crap shoot. I used a Galleto and it was a nightmare to install the software.

You will need to solder a BDM plug into the board.
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I never got the BDM100 clone I bought to work. However, I've had very good luck with a KTAG clone. The graphical interface of the software is very unsophisticated but it is not difficult to install or to use.

As rjahl suggests, it's best to solder a header to the DME board - the Chinese knock-off spring pin adapters are very poorly made. Maybe the ones from ecubay.com are better - I don't know. A solid frame is expensive.

BTW, if it isn't clear, KessV2 (for ODBII programming - not what you want) and KTAG (for BDM programming) are products of an Italian company called Alientech and here we are talking about Chinese clones of those rather expensive tools.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3268...u_521706451.12
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Wow

I just read all 106 pages of this, starting last night.
Such a comprehensive investigation and so much valuable information.

I am still left with what I am sure has to be a pretty simple question.

Does the part number have to match on a donor MSV70?

I read somewhere that the PN was the software number, and have since found conflicting opinions, mostly from sources that I don't find 100% reliable.

For instance, I have:

E60 MSV70, 7 553 166, 5WK9007 (CK79076)
0000000
7553166
7553371

Crank, no start.

Persistent:
002A9A Crankshaft inlet cam synchronization (present in ISTA)
002A9B Crankshaft exhaust cam synchronization (present in ISTA)

Getting battery voltage @ X6224/1 or X6214/1 with ignition on

No other DME issues/codes

Now I can get a MSV70 7 561 684, but I'm not convinced this will work?

Thanks in advance.

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I just realized that Winkfp reads the "Physical Hardware" as 7 532 547.....further confusing
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I just realized that Winkfp reads the "Physical Hardware" as 7 532 547.....further confusing
Let me make this easier for you.

Physical hardware MSV70 is just that, no real changes through production.

Software, yes several different "hardware numbers" /programs but they can be programmed via winfkp.

Part numbers can be confusing as at one time BMW used the hardware number as part of the PN. Just ignore it, it simply does not matter.
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Let me make this easier for you.

Physical hardware MSV70 is just that, no real changes through production.

Software, yes several different "hardware numbers" /programs but they can be programmed via winfkp.

Part numbers can be confusing as at one time BMW used the hardware number as part of the PN. Just ignore it, it simply does not matter.
THANK YOU! I have been trying to get this definitive confirmation for days, now, haha.
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to be honest I never really noticed any throttle delay on my 330i, but likely yes, you could tweak the throttle settings - if you can figure out what parameters need to be adjusted.

you probably don't have software version 730 though. most 330s will be 9XX. But that is coming next..
Hi Hassmaschine,

Congrats for your awesome works

I search a full dump of 3.0si in version 730, maybe you know where I can find it ?

Thanks in advance

Best regards,
Anthony
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Hi @all

N53:
A friend installed the 3-stage manifold on his 325i N53B30 and we flashed the 330i software with WinKFP. Then we read the ECU with Kessv2, changed the power class byte and flashed it back. The car runs great without any errors.

So all we need is a RSA delete for IHF0S in order to flash the calibration with WinKFP. Is it possible to add this to bimmerlabs? Maybe I can help somehow?

N52:
Does anyone have a MSV80 xdf?

Whats the difference between the files in bimmerlabs WITH and WITHOUT CO2 option for upgrading a 125i to 130i?
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