*** Starter Motor Advice ***

Flex68 · 04-27-2016, 07:53 AM

hey guys so im about to replace my starter motor on my e92 335i n54. Now I came across this starter on ebay thats new and has 5 year warranty. I have a working second hand genuine one waiting for me at the wreckers for $150 with 3 months warranty. But this one on ebay is only $100 more and has 5 year warranty. Just seeing if anyone has ever bought one of these at all? and which route should i go????

vtl · 04-27-2016, 05:19 PM

How old is the 2nd hand one? I'd probably just go the genuine one from the wreckers, its not like starter failure is that common anyway.

Flex68 · 04-27-2016, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by vtl

How old is the 2nd hand one? I'd probably just go the genuine one from the wreckers, its not like starter failure is that common anyway.

Beamer yoda to my rescue again

twenza · 04-28-2016, 07:26 PM

To put it in comparison for you, a brand new one is $790, Best I could do is around $620,
something else to think about to, ETK says the bolts are a one use item,$25 for the set.

Flex68 · 04-29-2016, 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by twenza

To put it in comparison for you, a brand new one is $790, Best I could do is around $620,
something else to think about to, ETK says the bolts are a one use item,$25 for the set.

Yes I totally forgot about the bolts and was priced up from Bmw dealer $36 for 2 bolts

EB89 · 04-29-2016, 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Flex68

Yes I totally forgot about the bolts and was priced up from Bmw dealer $36 for 2 bolts

That's a lot for one time use bolts!

Flex68 · 04-29-2016, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by EB89

That's a lot for one time use bolts!

Everything the dealer charges is a lot hahahahaha

EB89 · 04-30-2016, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Flex68

Everything the dealer charges is a lot hahahahaha

This is true

Brule · 04-30-2016, 08:41 PM

About 300% mark up at bmw

twenza · 05-01-2016, 05:04 PM

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About 300% mark up at bmw

Oh how I wish this was true..id be able to pass on a much better mark up...youd be surprised how little markup we get to put on BMW parts. Sometimes we are lucky to get 15% to play with.

bradsm87 · 05-01-2016, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by twenza

Oh how I wish this was true..id be able to pass on a much better mark up...youd be surprised how little markup we get to put on BMW parts. Sometimes we are lucky to get 15% to play with.

Yep. It's BMW Australia that are the thieves.

Brule · 05-02-2016, 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by twenza

Oh how I wish this was true..id be able to pass on a much better mark up...youd be surprised how little markup we get to put on BMW parts. Sometimes we are lucky to get 15% to play with.

Darwin bmw marks 300+% on the parts I have asked for including, rotors and pads, vanos solenoids, battery and recently tmap sensor.

Al were 3 times the price I could find online.

CashedUpBogan · 05-02-2016, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Brule

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Originally Posted by twenza

Oh how I wish this was true..id be able to pass on a much better mark up...youd be surprised how little markup we get to put on BMW parts. Sometimes we are lucky to get 15% to play with.

Darwin bmw marks 300+% on the parts I have asked for including, rotors and pads, vanos solenoids, battery and recently tmap sensor.

Al were 3 times the price I could find online.

3 times the price does not equal to 300% mark up. That's simpleton maths

twenza · 05-02-2016, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Brule

Darwin bmw marks 300+% on the parts I have asked for including, rotors and pads, vanos solenoids, battery and recently tmap sensor.

Al were 3 times the price I could find online.

Although I am not challenging you, I highly doubt a BMW dealer would mark up the price astronomically. We get audited quite often on our pricing, as a general most BMW dealers should be around the same price. I've worked for 2 BMW dealers and can assure you both dealers pricing is almost identical.

Just because you found it online doesn't mean its the same part, may be a repackaged item directly from Bosch or another manufacturer. May be a Imported part from America/china in a BMW box sure, but they wont offer the same warranty that BMW offers. All these little things are why sometimes the genuine part from BMW Australia dealer can cost more.

End of the day sometimes I can agree with you guys that some of our parts can be unfairly priced, but majority of the time BMW is not far off the mark from the competitors.

Flex68 · 05-03-2016, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by twenza

Although I am not challenging you, I highly doubt a BMW dealer would mark up the price astronomically. We get audited quite often on our pricing, as a general most BMW dealers should be around the same price. I've worked for 2 BMW dealers and can assure you both dealers pricing is almost identical.

Just because you found it online doesn't mean its the same part, may be a repackaged item directly from Bosch or another manufacturer. May be a Imported part from America/china in a BMW box sure, but they wont offer the same warranty that BMW offers. All these little things are why sometimes the genuine part from BMW Australia dealer can cost more.

End of the day sometimes I can agree with you guys that some of our parts can be unfairly priced, but majority of the time BMW is not far off the mark from the competitors.

Could this also be due to that we charge a higher import goods services tax ?

twenza · 05-03-2016, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Flex68

Could this also be due to that we charge a higher import goods services tax ?

This definitely plays a part as well. Didn't think to add that in.

Flex68 · 05-14-2016, 07:51 AM

Just a update ...did the starter swap and what a ducking PITA of a job it was .... The intake manifold fouls the rear intake and takes time and more force than I like to remove and install

Fuji · 05-14-2016, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Flex68

Just a update ...did the starter swap and what a ducking PITA of a job it was .... The intake manifold fouls the rear intake and takes time and more force than I like to remove and install

So all good now? Grats man!

Flex68 · 05-14-2016, 07:18 PM

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So all good now? Grats man!

Lol yes after 3 weeks not being able to drive her she is alive again. I just
Hope the starter never goes again lol

Fuji · 05-14-2016, 07:24 PM

At least you'll know exactly what to do next time around

Flex68 · 05-14-2016, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Fuji

At least you'll know exactly what to do next time around

LOL that's what I kept telling myself as the positive lol

_ink · 06-13-2016, 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Flex68

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Originally Posted by Fuji

So all good now? Grats man!

Lol yes after 3 weeks not being able to drive her she is alive again. I just
Hope the starter never goes again lol

Which one did you end up going with mate? And what were the symptoms for you?

Mine has failed to start 3 times now, all intermittently.... Anmoying AF!

Looking at the eBay one to due to the warranty.

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