[SfValley335i]

Originally Posted by Humtek

I don't think it is a single snail. Their swapping out the stock snails with a bigger pair of snails, so a piggy can do everything they need.

From the pictures ASR has posted, they've just modified the stock turbos with larger compressor wheel and larger turbine wheel.

This is exactly what (www.BoostedBimmers.com) sells, they charge $2300 + core for their turbos.

I wonder what ASR will charge, and what WHP/WTQ figures they claim with their turbos.

[Gen_E92]

I thought they said it's custom Garret turbo?

[SfValley335i]

Originally Posted by Gen_E92

I thought they said it's custom Garret turbo?

i dont think so... more like Garrett "parts" but not actual turbo. I'm sure for their real turbo upgrade (not modified stock turbos) will be some sort of Garrett turbo.

[McLuVan]

Originally Posted by SfValley335i

From the pictures ASR has posted, they've just modified the stock turbos with larger compressor wheel and larger turbine wheel.

This is exactly what (www.BoostedBimmers.com) sells, they charge $2300 + core for their turbos.

I wonder what ASR will charge, and what WHP/WTQ figures they claim with their turbos.

Originally Posted by Gen_E92

I thought they said it's custom Garret turbo?

what the.........!!!!!!!!!!

[McLuVan]

Originally Posted by SfValley335i

i dont think so... more like Garrett "parts" but not actual turbo. I'm sure for their real turbo upgrade (not modified stock turbos) will be some sort of Garrett turbo.

something like what VK is offering
well.......
is 110rwhp can not be had for less than $1k
JB3 and V3 is still the best bang for buck
modified stock turbos that push our +45rwhp?
no thanks....

[A418t81]

Originally Posted by SfValley335i

From the pictures ASR has posted, they've just modified the stock turbos with larger compressor wheel and larger turbine wheel.

Not true. They have modified the factory compressor cover and turbine housing to accept an entirely new garrett GT series CHRA. It IS an entirely new turbo, but with the stock housings modified to fit around it. There's not a single part on those turbos except for modded housings that's stock, save maybe the wastegate flapper and actuator depending on how they are setting up boost control.

[SfValley335i]

Originally Posted by A418t81

Not true. They have modified the factory compressor cover and turbine housing to accept an entirely new garrett GT series CHRA. It IS an entirely new turbo, but with the stock housings modified to fit around it. There's not a single part on those turbos except for modded housings that's stock, save maybe the wastegate flapper and actuator depending on how they are setting up boost control.

Ah your right sorry forgot to mention the porting they did on the compressor housing and for the turbine wheel...

I stand corrected

[Gen_E92]

So I'm assuming for Stage 1, we just send in our stock turbos to get modified...and for Stage 2, we get totally different Garret turbos with upgraded fuel system and all the bolt ons?

[scheherazade]

Originally Posted by McLuVan

something like what VK is offering
well.......
is 110rwhp can not be had for less than $1k
JB3 and V3 is still the best bang for buck
modified stock turbos that push our +45rwhp?
no thanks....

I believe the point is that they are +45whp with NO TUNE.

If you pair them up with a proper custom V3 or JB3 map, they can move your +110 jb3/v3 output up to some ridiculous number.

-scheherazade

[darkphantom]

Originally Posted by scheherazade

I believe the point is that they are +45whp with NO TUNE.

If you pair them up with a proper custom V3 or JB3 map, they can move your +110 jb3/v3 output up to some ridiculous number.

-scheherazade

+1 and they have not officially given us numbers, so lets stay tuned folks before we jump to any conclusions...

[LODOSS]

If I was to guess.. at the same 15 lb of boost they will give you another 40-50 hp over the stock turbos since it can hold the boost at higher rpm much better than the oem ones.

[Ryan@Motorwerks]

Originally Posted by Gen_E92

So I'm assuming for Stage 1, we just send in our stock turbos to get modified...and for Stage 2, we get totally different Garret turbos with upgraded fuel system and all the bolt ons?

Don't think so...stg2 is probably same turbos with upgraded fuel system and possibly other bolt ons. 99.99% sure they will stick with these turbos for stage 2. Unless you expect stage 2 to be more than 550whp

[Panoz]

I would be very happy if this project concludes to a finished product that generates 450whp+
This is almost double the power output of the stock N54.
My guess is, that such level of power in combination to the weight difference , M5/M6 would really suffer to stay beside a 335i.
If ,on the other hand, the powerband will reach the 550whp I wonder if we could stand beside cars like 997 or GTR (Maybe stupid comment but I have really no idea what could happen there)

[McLuVan]

Originally Posted by hl0m4n

this is great new guys, worst time to post it up though. gotta finish a 12 page essay for tommorow and im at page 5 . anyhow does this mean our cars are going to be like and sound like this

assuming it was external wastegates

[McLuVan]

Originally Posted by Panoz

I would be very happy if this project concludes to a finished product that generates 450whp+
This is almost double the power output of the stock N54.
My guess is, that such level of power in combination to the weight difference , M5/M6 would really suffer to stay beside a 335i.
If ,on the other hand, the powerband will reach the 550whp I wonder if we could stand beside cars like 997 or GTR (Maybe stupid comment but I have really no idea what could happen there)

I think we'd rip the body off it's frames first

[Kev]

Originally Posted by scheherazade

I believe the point is that they are +45whp with NO TUNE.

If you pair them up with a proper custom V3 or JB3 map, they can move your +110 jb3/v3 output up to some ridiculous number.

-scheherazade

Even with no tune, if it is +45 WHP all the way to red line with no trail off towards high rpm, the increase in the area under the curve is still worth it.

[ducati955]

Originally Posted by Kev

Even with no tune, if it is +45 WHP all the way to red line with no trail off towards high rpm, the increase in the area under the curve is still worth it.

thats nuts we gonna have 500 hp 335i's soon!

[A418t81]

Originally Posted by Gen_E92

So I'm assuming for Stage 1, we just send in our stock turbos to get modified...and for Stage 2, we get totally different Garret turbos with upgraded fuel system and all the bolt ons?

No, as already stated, you ARE getting Garrett turbos if you buy the turbos that you see on the first page. They machined the stock covers to accept entirely new guts...garrett guts, and replaced the mitsu guts. There's nothing mitsu left except a hogged out turbine housing and a machined compressor cover.

I don't really know how else to say it.

[asr engineering]

That is correct, they are no longer mitsubishi cartridges. They have been replaced with custom made Twin Ballbearing Garret cartridges. There is a lot of work involved in the tooling and machine work, along with all the retrofit fittings for the water and oil lines. Most mills that machine turbine housings are tooled for just the housing, not the manifold and housing together. This was quite an extensive process, along with the fact that the overall finished product is the exact same overall dimensional value as the stock turbo. This allows everything to fit just like factory, intercooler piping, dp's, intake tubing, etc.

[Mprojektz]

ASR always coming through. I love it!

[WCM3]

Originally Posted by McLuVan

something like what VK is offering
well.......
is 110rwhp can not be had for less than $1k
JB3 and V3 is still the best bang for buck
modified stock turbos that push our +45rwhp?
no thanks....

Where do you get 110rwhp for less than $1k?

[CanadianTSi]

Here's a Video showing something along the same lines done with Evo Turbo's...