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      07-16-2018, 05:32 PM   #1145
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      07-16-2018, 07:32 PM   #1146
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Yeah, E46 M3 wagons are popular these days and are great if you have the ability to build one - but I just don't love that gen (too much time porting around abused service loaners maybe), while always enjoyed the E90s more. I also didn't want to deal with S54 rod bearings or even a N54, especially after having two BMW V8s which are not fun to maintain, so a simple N52 like my S52 was preferred.

For a daily, reliable tank is nice and then throw on a few bits to make it slightly better. It's hard to find something as useful for <$20K that is as enjoyable to drive and is pretty modern without losing hydraulic steering and a NA I6 like the newer ones have done. I absolutely hated a F30 328 I drove and while a 340 was fast, I'd not sign up to own one outside of warranty.



Yes - getting 80% of my X5's usefulness and even just 60% of the fun of my E36 M3 was a good recipe for a daily. If I want better handling, I still have the M3 but it isn't the most comfortable car to take every day (and don't want to winter it). So I'll take a soft, slow car and refine as necessary. I got a low mileage one and plan to have it for a while. But wasn't in the market for a unicorn, nor would I have spent double what I did on one either. If I wanted power, a turbo engine would fit but no matter how much fun that could be it's not really the intent of the car and fast dailies don't help if you spend a lot of time in traffic (and even dailying a CTS-V on the highway can get old). So in the end, while they might not be amazing to some - I think E91s are a pretty good overall car if you find them for a reasonable price.
Oh yeah, don't get me wrong - I agree with pretty much everything you say here which is why I bought the car. I jsut find the price premium for 'unicorns' to be laughably unsustainable. Look at the value of 100k+ mile E46 wagons. The E91 will be valued similarly, I believe.

I have plans, too - mostly suspension related. This thing needs the most help in that department. The nice thing is that they are a great starting point for improvements!
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      07-17-2018, 11:28 AM   #1147
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Someone better hop on this one...

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2011 71k miles, rwd, 6MT, $15k

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      07-17-2018, 01:52 PM   #1148
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Yup. Can't hurt. Just to be clear I paid $12k for my E91 (it was higher mileage but in great shape). I capped my budget at $8k for whatever aftermarket work I plan to do, including the swap. Always want to have a little buffer just in case because cost overruns are common.

Obligatory disclaimer: it can be a pain in the ass. I'm doing it because I wanted a project, and I'm comfortable taking on the cost. You have to be prepared if things to go wrong. If it were any other car I'd sell it in a heartbeat and buy a 6MT.
The costs make sense if you can snag a cheap donor. I figured it would be $15k for something in decent shape. Then $10k for the M3 front end conversion done right (new parts painted and assembled at a high end shop). Odd and ends like wheels, suspension, and mods would be another $5k.

So you're doing a trans + complete M sport swap for $8k? The trans, diff, driveshaft, pedal box, etc... are around $2k in second hand parts. Labor is free as I'm assuming it'll be a home garage swap. The M Sport exterior bits are another $2k + $1k in paint. Interior might get expensive unless you can source things used or cheaply. You'll need sport seats, steering wheel + airbag, headliner, most likely trim unless you already have non-wood. Then wheels and any mods.

I'd ballpark it at closer to $10k to have it *done right* Corners can be cut and costs lowered if you find used bumpers and DIY paint or get it done at a lower end paint shop. Either way have fun, I'm on the same journey with my E36 so I'm in no position to judge! Costs always seem to creep up with "while I'm in there" parts.


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Yes - getting 80% of my X5's usefulness and even just 60% of the fun of my E36 M3 was a good recipe for a daily. If I want better handling, I still have the M3 but it isn't the most comfortable car to take every day (and don't want to winter it). So I'll take a soft, slow car and refine as necessary. I got a low mileage one and plan to have it for a while. But wasn't in the market for a unicorn, nor would I have spent double what I did on one either. If I wanted power, a turbo engine would fit but no matter how much fun that could be it's not really the intent of the car and fast dailies don't help if you spend a lot of time in traffic (and even dailying a CTS-V on the highway can get old). So in the end, while they might not be amazing to some - I think E91s are a pretty good overall car if you find them for a reasonable price.
Totally agreed. I'm a long time E36 addict as well!

E91's are the perfect compromise daily, yet they don't really compromise much. As with 99% of BMW's, suspension and tires really wake the chassis up. I could live without the PE and 3IM but they're nice to have. Suspension is a must, especially as these cars age.
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      07-17-2018, 02:08 PM   #1149
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      07-17-2018, 02:35 PM   #1150
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M-Sport... Automatic?!
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      07-17-2018, 08:29 PM   #1151
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alpine white on red-brown in Toronto:
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Dang. $9800?! This could be a great one for a conversion!
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Hi folks!

Selling my e91. 6 speed! Check it out:

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Dang. $9800?! This could be a great one for a conversion!
Any one know how difficult it would be to import one? I've read mixed reviews on the process in general, but nothing specific for E9X's / modern BMW's
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