BMW 335d Fuel Injector Problems

ThePicturePro · 10-10-2013, 12:29 PM

52,400 miles on my California 335d. Had all injectors replaced- Intake manifold and valves all had extreme carbon build up and had to be dismantled and worked on. Couple months later had another injector turn up as "bad" They said it was bad off the shelf. Dont believe it. Less than a month later all the glow plugs were replaced. Now its back in the shop and they're telling me it is the computer unit. Special ordering it and has to be custom made for my car? I am asking for a repurchase but this car is no longer available... 335d is gone and I dont want a 328d and cannot afford a 535d... Any input from the forum? It was done as a good will gesture since it was barely out of warranty. I just fear that I cannot trust this vehicle and that is the worst feeling for a bmw owner. I rented a car just to go to vegas because I dont feel safe driving it. The thing is that with everything new and worked on, this car may be just as good as new or a complete lemon...

Puerto Rican 335d · 10-10-2013, 12:46 PM

DDE should of been replaced from the onset, I'll be honest stay with the car or sell it the is NO OTHER car outhere in the USA like ours!!!

ThePicturePro · 10-10-2013, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Puerto Rican 335d

DDE should of been replaced from the onset, I'll be honest stay with the car or sell it the is NO OTHER car outhere in the USA like ours!!!

Did they just put the engine of the 335d into the 535d, the specs seem nearly identical but I havent gotten that detailed in the comparison. I dont even want to get my hopes up on a car I probably cant afford. Oh, and regardless of price, I have no idea how to convince my wife to stick with BMW much less another Diesel.

It is horrible that we get this type of treatment when we were one of the first to take the chance with diesel here in the states.

F32Fleet · 10-10-2013, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ThePicturePro

Did they just put the engine of the 335d into the 535d, the specs seem nearly identical but I havent gotten that detailed in the comparison. I dont even want to get my hopes up on a car I probably cant afford. Oh, and regardless of price, I have no idea how to convince my wife to stick with BMW much less another Diesel.

It is horrible that we get this type of treatment when we were one of the first to take the chance with diesel here in the states.

No. We have the M57. The new I6 diesel is called the N57.

The 535d in the US is sold as the 530d in Europe.

You're good to go with the DDE fix.

rogerdiaz · 10-11-2013, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ThePicturePro

52,400 miles on my California 335d. Had all injectors replaced- Intake manifold and valves all had extreme carbon build up and had to be dismantled and worked on. Couple months later had another injector turn up as "bad" They said it was bad off the shelf. Dont believe it. Less than a month later all the glow plugs were replaced. Now its back in the shop and they're telling me it is the computer unit. Special ordering it and has to be custom made for my car? I am asking for a repurchase but this car is no longer available... 335d is gone and I dont want a 328d and cannot afford a 535d... Any input from the forum? It was done as a good will gesture since it was barely out of warranty. I just fear that I cannot trust this vehicle and that is the worst feeling for a bmw owner. I rented a car just to go to vegas because I dont feel safe driving it. The thing is that with everything new and worked on, this car may be just as good as new or a complete lemon...

If you get a new engine and dde like me, keep it forever. If you dont have gold extended/CPO warranty 100,000 miles its a big risk.

ThePicturePro · 10-12-2013, 12:24 PM

I don't have a new engine. New DDE, new injectors, new glow plugs, carbon buildup in the valves and intake manifold was removed. At a little over 55,000 miles in four years.

magungo · 10-16-2013, 03:32 PM

My california 335d just got its injectors replaced. they are holding it in the shop for 2 weeks. my warranty ends next month. i guess its good they caught it before warranty ended.

Roman-dude · 10-17-2013, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by rogerdiaz

If you get a new engine and dde like me, keep it forever. If you dont have gold extended/CPO warranty 100,000 miles its a big risk.

how much is the post warranty extended warranty? starting to look more like something that deserves a consideration.

they're swapping out an injector now @ 42k.

montr · 10-17-2013, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Roman-dude

how much is the post warranty extended warranty? starting to look more like something that deserves a consideration.

they're swapping out an injector now @ 42k.

That depend of the warranty type. I decided to get the Powertrain Plus warranty because all my problems (and I had many) have been related to the powertrain. This warranty cover the injector and emission related components.

The rest of the car is the same as any E90 gasoline powered car. I can get the non-powetrain items fixed at any independent BMW specialist for half price of dealer.

http://www.bmwusa.com/Standard/Conte...rotection.aspx

Roman-dude · 10-17-2013, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by montr

That depend of the warranty type. I decided to get the Powertrain Plus warranty because all my problems (and I had many) have been related to the powertrain. This warranty cover the injector and emission related components.

The rest of the car is the same as any E90 gasoline powered car. I can get the non-powetrain items fixed at any independent BMW specialist for half price of dealer.

http://www.bmwusa.com/Standard/Conte...rotection.aspx

What you say sounds reasonable. Do you mind sharing the cost?
As a side note, just got back from the dealer - they replaced one of the injectors under the warranty. Had i not had one, they said the parts would be $570 and labor - $150/hr. I didn't check how many hours it'd take them as it already gave me a ball park cost.

montr · 10-17-2013, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Roman-dude

What you say sounds reasonable. Do you mind sharing the cost?
As a side note, just got back from the dealer - they replaced one of the injectors under the warranty. Had i not had one, they said the parts would be $570 and labor - $150/hr. I didn't check how many hours it'd take them as it already gave me a ball park cost.

I got it from Pacific BMW (Daniel Dutton). Google to get his email address and mention this forum. The warranty is less than the cost of 4 injectors and it is significantly less than what I would have paid at my dealer here in Atlanta.

CT_335D · 11-05-2013, 07:29 AM

Well, it has been exaclty 1 month since my last SES light came. Driving into work this morning and the SES light came on again. What the hell is going on. I wonder what the problem is this time.

rogerdiaz · 11-05-2013, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by CT_335D

Well, it has been exaclty 1 month since my last SES light came. Driving into work this morning and the SES light came on again. What the hell is going on. I wonder what the problem is this time.

God bless you. Knock on wood no issues since new engine and dde replaced.

CT_335D · 11-05-2013, 09:18 AM

I had the BMW service rep check if my car ever had the DDE replaced and he said no. I wonder if the DDE is causing some of the issues and making the SES light come on.

Roman-dude · 11-05-2013, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by rogerdiaz

Knock on wood

hope yours came with wood trim

fongboy · 11-06-2013, 06:43 AM

I'm having my injectors replaced after rough idling at only 30,000 miles....should I be concerned because it seems most of you have had them replaced much later on...thanks

Puerto Rican 335d · 11-06-2013, 07:00 AM

Fong its odd since you have JB installed I believe your the first with a mod that is having issues

CT_335D · 11-06-2013, 09:15 AM

Fongboy, how is the JBD working out for you? Do you see a big difference in performance in horsepower and torque? I was thinking about getting one, but I am waiting until my warranty runs out.

Puerto Rican 335d · 11-06-2013, 10:17 AM

CT any flash or piggyback will give great numbers in my case I use RENNtech we dynoed 230 whp STOCK, once we retroffited the flash we clocked 300whp, JB is same but way cheaper, unfortunately mines is expensive BUT carries a 24 mo warranty on the programming

CT_335D · 11-06-2013, 10:20 AM

What did you get for Torque?

Puerto Rican 335d · 11-06-2013, 10:24 AM

unfortunately we havent done the torque but hoepfully i can get it next time i go there im always in a rush to get it over with but i promise i will get it for everyone next time i go dyno

Roman-dude · 11-06-2013, 10:25 AM

how much are these mods anyway? even ballpark is appreciated. thx

10-10-2013, 12:29 PM	#67
ThePicturePro New Member 0 Rep 7 Posts Drives: 2009 335d Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: So Cal iTrader: (0)	52,400 miles on my California 335d. Had all injectors replaced- Intake manifold and valves all had extreme carbon build up and had to be dismantled and worked on. Couple months later had another injector turn up as "bad" They said it was bad off the shelf. Dont believe it. Less than a month later all the glow plugs were replaced. Now its back in the shop and they're telling me it is the computer unit. Special ordering it and has to be custom made for my car? I am asking for a repurchase but this car is no longer available... 335d is gone and I dont want a 328d and cannot afford a 535d... Any input from the forum? It was done as a good will gesture since it was barely out of warranty. I just fear that I cannot trust this vehicle and that is the worst feeling for a bmw owner. I rented a car just to go to vegas because I dont feel safe driving it. The thing is that with everything new and worked on, this car may be just as good as new or a complete lemon...
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Puerto Rican 335d Brigadier General 229 Rep 3,489 Posts Drives: Montego Blue 335d Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Puerto Rico(Dominican Republic 03/2017) iTrader: (0)	DDE should of been replaced from the onset, I'll be honest stay with the car or sell it the is NO OTHER car outhere in the USA like ours!!! __________________ RENNtech Flash(Lenny Wu)/WAGNER IC Enkei Rajin 18"/Execuhitch Hitch/Koni FSD Soft Ride Bike Rack/Brava Synthetic Motor Oil(Made in Puerto Rico)/Meth(in the works)/CBU done w Andrew EGR Race Pipe (whoa! what an animal it is now)
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ThePicturePro New Member 0 Rep 7 Posts Drives: 2009 335d Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: So Cal iTrader: (0)	I don't have a new engine. New DDE, new injectors, new glow plugs, carbon buildup in the valves and intake manifold was removed. At a little over 55,000 miles in four years.
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10-16-2013, 03:32 PM	#73
magungo Private First Class 11 Rep 153 Posts Drives: Honda Civic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Bellevue iTrader: (4)	My california 335d just got its injectors replaced. they are holding it in the shop for 2 weeks. my warranty ends next month. i guess its good they caught it before warranty ended.
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CT_335D Second Lieutenant 37 Rep 223 Posts Drives: 2009 BMW 335d Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Connecticut, USA iTrader: (0)	Well, it has been exaclty 1 month since my last SES light came. Driving into work this morning and the SES light came on again. What the hell is going on. I wonder what the problem is this time.
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CT_335D Second Lieutenant 37 Rep 223 Posts Drives: 2009 BMW 335d Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Connecticut, USA iTrader: (0)	I had the BMW service rep check if my car ever had the DDE replaced and he said no. I wonder if the DDE is causing some of the issues and making the SES light come on.
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fongboy Private 16 Rep 133 Posts Drives: 2010 335d Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Connecticut iTrader: (0)	I'm having my injectors replaced after rough idling at only 30,000 miles....should I be concerned because it seems most of you have had them replaced much later on...thanks __________________ JBD-Alufelgen CS7-M-Sport Front-Koni/Eibach-M3 Trunk Lip
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Puerto Rican 335d Brigadier General 229 Rep 3,489 Posts Drives: Montego Blue 335d Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Puerto Rico(Dominican Republic 03/2017) iTrader: (0)	Fong its odd since you have JB installed I believe your the first with a mod that is having issues __________________ RENNtech Flash(Lenny Wu)/WAGNER IC Enkei Rajin 18"/Execuhitch Hitch/Koni FSD Soft Ride Bike Rack/Brava Synthetic Motor Oil(Made in Puerto Rico)/Meth(in the works)/CBU done w Andrew EGR Race Pipe (whoa! what an animal it is now)
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CT_335D Second Lieutenant 37 Rep 223 Posts Drives: 2009 BMW 335d Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Connecticut, USA iTrader: (0)	Fongboy, how is the JBD working out for you? Do you see a big difference in performance in horsepower and torque? I was thinking about getting one, but I am waiting until my warranty runs out.
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Puerto Rican 335d Brigadier General 229 Rep 3,489 Posts Drives: Montego Blue 335d Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Puerto Rico(Dominican Republic 03/2017) iTrader: (0)	CT any flash or piggyback will give great numbers in my case I use RENNtech we dynoed 230 whp STOCK, once we retroffited the flash we clocked 300whp, JB is same but way cheaper, unfortunately mines is expensive BUT carries a 24 mo warranty on the programming __________________ RENNtech Flash(Lenny Wu)/WAGNER IC Enkei Rajin 18"/Execuhitch Hitch/Koni FSD Soft Ride Bike Rack/Brava Synthetic Motor Oil(Made in Puerto Rico)/Meth(in the works)/CBU done w Andrew EGR Race Pipe (whoa! what an animal it is now)
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CT_335D Second Lieutenant 37 Rep 223 Posts Drives: 2009 BMW 335d Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Connecticut, USA iTrader: (0)	What did you get for Torque?
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Puerto Rican 335d Brigadier General 229 Rep 3,489 Posts Drives: Montego Blue 335d Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Puerto Rico(Dominican Republic 03/2017) iTrader: (0)	unfortunately we havent done the torque but hoepfully i can get it next time i go there im always in a rush to get it over with but i promise i will get it for everyone next time i go dyno __________________ RENNtech Flash(Lenny Wu)/WAGNER IC Enkei Rajin 18"/Execuhitch Hitch/Koni FSD Soft Ride Bike Rack/Brava Synthetic Motor Oil(Made in Puerto Rico)/Meth(in the works)/CBU done w Andrew EGR Race Pipe (whoa! what an animal it is now)
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11-06-2013, 10:25 AM	#88
Roman-dude Private 6 Rep 73 Posts Drives: 335d Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Brooklyn, NY iTrader: (2)	how much are these mods anyway? even ballpark is appreciated. thx
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