[jor2cool4u]

Originally Posted by SLOWER

I buy all my stuff from http://www.detailedimage.com/

Amazon has it all too: http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_no...words=nanoskin

So I can use the nanoskin mitt with just regular car soap right? I saw it recommended some lubricate, do I need that? I want to try this "clay bar alternative"

$44 for a mitt yikes (that's more than the $37 oem wiperblades I just bought from Turner!)...should I get it or the $12 sponge?

[vilord]

Wheee nice afternoon for climbing under the car.
Finally replaced the plastics under the engine/radiator/etc, reattached the cracked bumper, cut new brackets to reattach the right headlight, properly attached both fender liners, which both need to be replaced again due to improper attachment last year.

new-to-me wheels and tires (thank you Welterweight!) gives me a nice smooth ride. Monday alignment, brake fluid change, and possibly ordering a new rear hatch under the rust warranty.
I can just feel the wallet emptying itself.

[SLOWER]

Originally Posted by jor2cool4u

So I can use the nanoskin mitt with just regular car soap right? I saw it recommended some lubricate, do I need that? I want to try this "clay bar alternative"

$44 for a mitt yikes (that's more than the $37 oem wiperblades I just bought from Turner!)...should I get it or the $12 sponge?

Your car is black, so I would use the "fine" grade and their Glide product. On my white truck I used soap and the "medium" grade as scratches are not so easily visible.

Just how I do it. Soap is probably fine but I am paranoid about the black paint.

[Torgus]

Apparently I have a semi blown rear strut. guess it's time for a real suspension...

You guys need to get those COs installed otherwise I have to purchase something with reviews...

[vilord]

COs? Sorry I haven't been following the thread recently... my rears are particularly squeaky, probably a combination of struts and bushings, and why replace with the same when i can spend more?

[Torgus]

Coilovers, @Island Road and Z have some custom one off ones which I'm interested in but would like to hear their review 1st.

Fuck me I just looked at the cost to basically redo the whole suspension to M3 parts + other upgrades etc. I'm sure i'm missing some bushings etc. but this is the list I have so far. If anyone sees anything I left out let me know.

Turner Front Aluminum Strut Brace - E9X $230
White line Front Sway Bar - 27mm $215
White line Front Sway Bar End Link Kit – Adjustable 310-335mm $120
White line Rear Sway Bar - 20mm $215
M3 Front Upper + Lower Control Arm Upgrade - Left and Right w/ Meyle HD arms and bushings $250
M3 headlight adjusting rod (37142283867) $20
M3 front upper inner bushings (31102283579) $30
M3 Rear Guide Rod Upgrade - Left and Right $250
M3 Rear Upper Link Arm Upgrade - Left and Right $430
M3 rear control arms – Left and Right $430
Rear sub frame Bushings/Mount set – Turner- Solid Delrin $500
Rogue Engineering Rear Toe Arms $290
Powerflex upper strut mounts $???
DEFIV Fab Diff lockdown kit(includes solid diff bushings) $740
Fortune Auto 500 series Black Edition coilovers w/ Swift Springs $2,000?


Total: $5,720 + shipping + install

[Hadley]

Originally Posted by Torgus

Coilovers, @Island Road and Z have some custom one off ones which I'm interested in but would like to hear their review 1st.

Fuck me I just looked at the cost to basically redo the whole suspension to M3 parts + other upgrades etc. I'm sure i'm missing some bushings etc. but this is the list I have so far. If anyone sees anything I left out let me know.

Turner Front Aluminum Strut Brace - E9X $230
White line Front Sway Bar - 27mm $215
White line Front Sway Bar End Link Kit – Adjustable 310-335mm $120
White line Rear Sway Bar - 20mm $215
M3 Front Upper + Lower Control Arm Upgrade - Left and Right w/ Meyle HD arms and bushings $250
M3 headlight adjusting rod (37142283867) $20
M3 front upper inner bushings (31102283579) $30
M3 Rear Guide Rod Upgrade - Left and Right $250
M3 Rear Upper Link Arm Upgrade - Left and Right $430
M3 rear control arms – Left and Right $430
Rear sub frame Bushings/Mount set – Turner- Solid Delrin $500
Rogue Engineering Rear Toe Arms $290
Powerflex upper strut mounts $???
DEFIV Fab Diff lockdown kit(includes solid diff bushings) $740
Fortune Auto 500 series Black Edition coilovers w/ Swift Springs $2,000?


Total: $5,720 + shipping + install

The wise thing to do is just buy it man, don't use that money towards an actual M3 or anything

[Torgus]

Originally Posted by Hadley

The wise thing to do is just buy it man, don't use that money towards an actual M3 or anything

This is my constant dilemma. An M3 is sort of iconic and dumping money into an M3 makes more sense than a 335...also it's a lot cooler to have an older M3 than an older 335.

Sucks. It's not like I am going to buy all of that right now...but I was thinking if I'm going to upgrade lets see what the full upgrade would cost. It looks like around 6k for parts, probably 7-7.5k installed. That is just insane. You can buy a single turbo kit for that price...

[Hadley]

Just get an M3 now if you plan on upgrading all of those components. If you do them all over time I think you're underestimating labor costs, especially if you need alignments along the way

[zero2sixtyZ]

That list is a little excessive. Depends how far you want to go for power. If not, grab an M3. If you are looking for a 6-700whp 335, you'll need to build up the suspension/brakes too, but not to that level.

[Torgus]

Originally Posted by zero2sixtyZ

That list is a little excessive. Depends how far you want to go for power. If not, grab an M3. If you are looking for a 6-700whp 335, you'll need to build up the suspension/brakes too, but not to that level.

But only a little.

[zero2sixtyZ]

Originally Posted by Torgus

But only a little.

All said and done, my setup is around 2,200. That is with the M3 arms, subframe bushing inserts, coils, etc. I haven't touched the front arms, sway bars or any of the other M3 pieces, but it's a good starting point.

Take into account, the M3 stock suspension won't be without fault. Coilovers, bushings, and other pieces will still improve it. So your $5k is quoting a "beyond M3 setup".

[Torgus]

Originally Posted by zero2sixtyZ

All said and done, my setup is around 2,200. That is with the M3 arms, subframe bushing inserts, coils, etc. I haven't touched the front arms, sway bars or any of the other M3 pieces, but it's a good starting point.

Take into account, the M3 stock suspension won't be without fault. Coilovers, bushings, and other pieces will still improve it. So your $5k is quoting a "beyond M3 setup".

But do you have center caps?

Fuck it i'll drive around with a half blown rear strut.

[zero2sixtyZ]

Originally Posted by Torgus

But do you have center caps?

Fuck it i'll drive around with a half blown rear strut.

Rather have proper suspension than center caps right now.

Also, check the upper strut mount and the supporting cup on the top of that strut. They can rot out and lose the support at the top.

Take off the clip hook, and the few push clips surrounding, then peel back the panel.

[AWD Addict]

Originally Posted by Torgus

Coilovers, @Island Road and Z have some custom one off ones which I'm interested in but would like to hear their review 1st.

Fuck me I just looked at the cost to basically redo the whole suspension to M3 parts + other upgrades etc. I'm sure i'm missing some bushings etc. but this is the list I have so far. If anyone sees anything I left out let me know.

Turner Front Aluminum Strut Brace - E9X $230
White line Front Sway Bar - 27mm $215
White line Front Sway Bar End Link Kit – Adjustable 310-335mm $120
White line Rear Sway Bar - 20mm $215
M3 Front Upper + Lower Control Arm Upgrade - Left and Right w/ Meyle HD arms and bushings $250
M3 headlight adjusting rod (37142283867) $20
M3 front upper inner bushings (31102283579) $30
M3 Rear Guide Rod Upgrade - Left and Right $250
M3 Rear Upper Link Arm Upgrade - Left and Right $430
M3 rear control arms – Left and Right $430
Rear sub frame Bushings/Mount set – Turner- Solid Delrin $500
Rogue Engineering Rear Toe Arms $290
Powerflex upper strut mounts $???
DEFIV Fab Diff lockdown kit(includes solid diff bushings) $740
Fortune Auto 500 series Black Edition coilovers w/ Swift Springs $2,000?


Total: $5,720 + shipping + install

Are you tracking the car? if not on a relatively frequent basis, most of that is way overkill.

AA

[Torgus]

Originally Posted by AWD Addict

Are you tracking the car? if not on a relatively frequent basis, most of that is way overkill.

AA

Not currently. I was just curious what all the little bits would/could add up to so I made the list. Surprisingly a lot. I assume most of those M3 bits can be upgraded with better bushings etc. so my list would only grow larger in theory.


Forgot to add m3 rear trailing arms and bushings for trailing arm to that list. I am sure there is more...

[Hadley]

Originally Posted by Torgus

Not currently. I was just curious what all the little bits would/could add up to so I made the list. Surprisingly a lot. I assume most of those M3 bits can be upgraded with better bushings etc. so my list would only grow larger in theory.


Forgot to add m3 rear trailing arms and bushings for trailing arm to that list. I am sure there is more...

You forgot M3 badges

[AWD Addict]

Originally Posted by Torgus

Not currently. I was just curious what all the little bits would/could add up to so I made the list. Surprisingly a lot. I assume most of those M3 bits can be upgraded with better bushings etc. so my list would only grow larger in theory.


Forgot to add m3 rear trailing arms and bushings for trailing arm to that list. I am sure there is more...

For daily driving (and even some AutoX, frankly) get yourself some struts and springs, or coilovers. if you hit the track more than a couple times, add swaybars.

A

[vilord]

Hmm. Left rear shock is blown, that might explain the shitty handling at speed on the highway over bumps. It is impressive how well this car handles with bad alignment and worn out components.
Trying to decide between a set of fsd's, b6's and b4's... For a daily driver that I take camping. Hmmmmmm.....

[zero2sixtyZ]

Originally Posted by Torgus

Coilovers, @Island Road and Z have some custom one off ones which I'm interested in but would like to hear their review 1st.

Fuck me I just looked at the cost to basically redo the whole suspension to M3 parts + other upgrades etc. I'm sure i'm missing some bushings etc. but this is the list I have so far. If anyone sees anything I left out let me know.

Turner Front Aluminum Strut Brace - E9X $230
White line Front Sway Bar - 27mm $215
White line Front Sway Bar End Link Kit – Adjustable 310-335mm $120
White line Rear Sway Bar - 20mm $215
M3 Front Upper + Lower Control Arm Upgrade - Left and Right w/ Meyle HD arms and bushings $250
M3 headlight adjusting rod (37142283867) $20
M3 front upper inner bushings (31102283579) $30
M3 Rear Guide Rod Upgrade - Left and Right $250
M3 Rear Upper Link Arm Upgrade - Left and Right $430
M3 rear control arms – Left and Right $430
Rear sub frame Bushings/Mount set – Turner- Solid Delrin $500
Rogue Engineering Rear Toe Arms $290
Powerflex upper strut mounts $???
DEFIV Fab Diff lockdown kit(includes solid diff bushings) $740
Fortune Auto 500 series Black Edition coilovers w/ Swift Springs $2,000?


Total: $5,720 + shipping + install

Read that the RE rear toe arms aren't worth it. Go Manzo (same manufacturer as Megan) for $125ish. I'm going with the Whiteline subframe bushing inserts, purchased for $50. They won't be as good as full replacements, but much less labor and cost. The FA500 coils are around $1600 the way I worked them out.

I'd hold off on the sway bars, and arms for a bit and focus on the weak points. Springs, struts, rear subframe bushings and rear toe arms. That's my strategy this round.

[vilord]

Are you all taking your cars on the track? I can't imagine spending thousands on upgraded suspension components for street use.

[Hadley]

Anyone own a fanatec wheel/pedal/clutch setup? I recently got project cars as a gift and want to build a seat and wheel rig