Misfire same cylinder changed everything

f87king · 07-01-2017, 03:30 PM

I'm not one to ask stupid questions but I've searched every forum and done everything to diagnose my misfire. I changed my valce cover gasket plugs coils and have index 12 injectors and I have a constant misfire 1. I have moved plugs replaced coils moved injectors everything still same cylinder misfire. Has anyone experienced misfires in one cylinder that is not related to coils, plugs, injectors and was something else? I want to get this sorted out I just paid for a custom tune and can't even use it

My car was running perfect b4 the VCG new coils and plugs now misfire if I step on it but if I ease into it no misfire. I did a compression test and the numbers were good.

LGCubana · 07-01-2017, 03:59 PM

Worst case scenario would be the DME.

Happened to a friend recently, with an '08, with >120K miles

NoQuarter · 07-01-2017, 04:16 PM

Who coded for the injectors? Can you verify the Values?

f87king · 07-01-2017, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by NoQuarter

Who coded for the injectors? Can you verify the Values?

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Originally Posted by NoQuarter

Who coded for the injectors? Can you verify the Values?

the injectors were replaced 30k miles ago by previous owner I was with my mechanic and had him code them when I switched them around the values matched

Wolf 335 · 07-01-2017, 05:15 PM

Could a damaged air intake valve cause this?

Maybe previous owner damaged it during cleaning.

f87king · 07-01-2017, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolf 335

Could a damaged air intake valve cause this?

Maybe previous owner damaged it during cleaning.

It just started happening I've done everything on my car and it's ran great 17-21psi for the last 7 months

JuniorB · 07-01-2017, 09:19 PM

Have you done any work prior to the misfire, are you triggering code for this, and is it in the whole rpm band or just the higher? So if you pull the connector off there is no difference ? Check the connector for power and its wires, what's the code?

f87king · 07-01-2017, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by JuniorB

Have you done any work prior to the misfire, are you triggering code for this, and is it in the whole rpm band or just the higher? So if you pull the connector off there is no difference ? Check the connector for power and its wires, what's the code?

I did a valve cover gasket coils and plugs its constantly combustion misfire 1 installing new battery as we speak and testing mosfets

=C= · 07-01-2017, 10:19 PM

O2 pre-cat sensors?

Has the car ever had the intake manifold walnut blasted? Maybe Cyl 1 is full of crap ie worse off than other cylinders.

feuer · 07-04-2017, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by LGCubana

Worst case scenario would be the DME.

Happened to a friend recently, with an '08, with >120K miles

Worse case scenario would be demaged head 😰

MysticRob · 07-05-2017, 10:54 AM

Get a compression and leakdown test done on all cylinders. If the cylinder you're seeing the misfire on tests much lower then you've narrowed down your possible number of problems.

turekaj · 07-05-2017, 11:01 AM

Did you install new injector seals when swapping them around ?

Faredo · 07-05-2017, 02:18 PM

Did you replace the plugs with new ones or just move them around. Ive done this myself and oddly enough moving plugs from cyl to cyl i still had a miss in 6
.

f87king · 07-05-2017, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by turekaj

Did you install new injector seals when swapping them around ?

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Originally Posted by turekaj

Did you install new injector seals when swapping them around ?

yes I did

f87king · 07-05-2017, 08:30 PM

I'm leaning towards HPFP throwing an inactive shadow code long cranks rail pressure under 1k during misfire logs

f87king · 07-05-2017, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Faredo

Did you replace the plugs with new ones or just move them around. Ive done this myself and oddly enough moving plugs from cyl to cyl i still had a miss in 6
.

brand new ngk plugs gapped at .020 my previous plugs weren't misfiring. compression test 175 all around yes I got new injector seals and decouplers

feuer · 07-05-2017, 09:28 PM

If ECU checks out then is the head, enlarged bore for the injector.

f87king · 07-05-2017, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by feuer

If ECU checks out then is the head, enlarged bore for the injector.

The injector in 1 is not enlarged can assure that the issue is either HPFP mosfets or something with electrical. B4 changing tune coils plugs gasket I had a no misfire car and great logs to show for it. Now my rail pressure is low

Faredo · 07-05-2017, 09:59 PM

If it's always the same cylinder I can't see it being hpfp. Have you tried gapping that one down to 18?
I hate this for you man. I know it's frustrating as hell.

f87king · 07-05-2017, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Faredo

If it's always the same cylinder I can't see it being hpfp. Have you tried gapping that one down to 18?
I hate this for you man. I know it's frustrating as hell.

Thought the same thing but on facebook group replies from 2 people stated there's was misfiring on only one cylinder and was a hpfp issue. I will gap the plugs down tho forsure

Levanime · 07-05-2017, 10:50 PM

what codes do u get exactly?
can u post last 7 digits of VIN number?

f87king · 07-05-2017, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Levanime

what codes do u get exactly?
can u post last 7 digits of VIN number?

combustion cylinder 1 e067328 msd81 dme

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Faredo Lieutenant 312 Rep 404 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Arkansas iTrader: (0)	If it's always the same cylinder I can't see it being hpfp. Have you tried gapping that one down to 18? I hate this for you man. I know it's frustrating as hell.
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