E90Post
 


Extreme Powerhouse
 
BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum > E90 / E92 / E93 3-series Technical Forums > Suspension | Brakes | Chassis > help me solve my clunky front end



Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      03-07-2015, 11:26 PM   #1
Rich-
Private First Class
Rich-'s Avatar
United_States
12
Rep
138
Posts

Drives: 2010 335xi 06 A3 S-line 3.2
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Sioux Falls SD

iTrader: (3)

help me solve my clunky front end

I am new to the forum, and just purchased a 2010 335xi it has 50K miles, also has KW V1 coilovers with maybe 30k on them.
bots sides on the front are clunky, previous owner thinks the front shocks were on the way out, I have the stock suspension to put back on if I wish.
I haven't been under the car yet to have a look. but before I do I would like to get some tips on what to check. anything more common than another to have issues with?
it has sport pkg, did the AWD cars have the same sport suspension as the RWD cars?

I don't know much of anything about bmw's as I have crossed over from the VW world

any help is appreciated.
Appreciate 0
      03-08-2015, 12:01 AM   #2
Karman
Second Lieutenant
22
Rep
274
Posts

Drives: 335i e92 07 space gray
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: CT

iTrader: (0)

Bump I have the same issue from the passenger hopefully it's just sway bar end link
Appreciate 0
      03-08-2015, 01:15 AM   #3
SJ335i
Private First Class
10
Rep
197
Posts

Drives: e92 335i
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: San Jose

iTrader: (1)

It's the end links. I had the same problem and I just kept adjusting them till it stopped
Appreciate 0
      03-08-2015, 01:27 AM   #4
EndOfAnEra
Lieutenant Colonel
EndOfAnEra's Avatar
515
Rep
1,705
Posts

Drives: AW X3 35i Msport + S2000
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Largo, FL

iTrader: (13)

Well to rule out ball joints or tie rods jack each side up on the front and shake the wheel. IF there is excessive play something is wrong.
__________________
Appreciate 0
      03-08-2015, 07:31 AM   #5
cdgatti
Colonel
cdgatti's Avatar
255
Rep
2,547
Posts

Drives: e90 328i
Join Date: May 2011
Location: KY

iTrader: (4)

High probability it is the end links especially since new front struts were added. I think it is common for the end link to strut connection to work itself loose especially on aftermarket installs. They are also hard to tighten without the whole unit spinning. I have found that if you snug them up with an impact gun, that will allow you get a wrench on one side and tighten without the whole thing spinning.
__________________
OEM Black grill and Blackline tails - LCI halogens with Lux V2 coded as DRL - 3M Crystalline - BMS PBX - OEM Euro Airbox with K&N - Hardwired CTEK - Bilstein B6 w/OEM springs and SP perches - Conti DWS06 - HiFi-Helix DSP - JLAudio HD/XD-Morel - CD changer trim - AE optical out
Appreciate 0
      03-08-2015, 08:43 AM   #6
Rich-
Private First Class
Rich-'s Avatar
United_States
12
Rep
138
Posts

Drives: 2010 335xi 06 A3 S-line 3.2
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Sioux Falls SD

iTrader: (3)

Thanks guys. I'll have a look at them and hope for the best
Appreciate 0
      03-08-2015, 03:11 PM   #7
cdgatti
Colonel
cdgatti's Avatar
255
Rep
2,547
Posts

Drives: e90 328i
Join Date: May 2011
Location: KY

iTrader: (4)

Rich, you can't tell too much by just looking at them or even tugging on the end links. You will have to take the front wheels off and put a wrench on them. If the nut/bolt spins, then they may be loose enough to shift/slide under impacts causing the clunking. Use an impact gun to secure them and then tighten with a wrench after you get them to stop spinning.
__________________
OEM Black grill and Blackline tails - LCI halogens with Lux V2 coded as DRL - 3M Crystalline - BMS PBX - OEM Euro Airbox with K&N - Hardwired CTEK - Bilstein B6 w/OEM springs and SP perches - Conti DWS06 - HiFi-Helix DSP - JLAudio HD/XD-Morel - CD changer trim - AE optical out
Appreciate 0
      03-08-2015, 05:36 PM   #8
Rich-
Private First Class
Rich-'s Avatar
United_States
12
Rep
138
Posts

Drives: 2010 335xi 06 A3 S-line 3.2
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Sioux Falls SD

iTrader: (3)

Thanks. Will do. Hopefully one of these first daysI'LL get a chance to get at it
Appreciate 0
      03-09-2015, 12:35 PM   #9
chris82
Brigadier General
chris82's Avatar
United_States
827
Rep
3,856
Posts

Drives: 128i
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: NY NY

iTrader: (8)

Garage List
2009 BMW 128i  [9.80]
Quote:
Originally Posted by SJ335i View Post
It's the end links. I had the same problem and I just kept adjusting them till it stopped
What do you mean, like you kept tightening them?
Appreciate 0
      03-09-2015, 08:22 PM   #10
MassBimmer
Major General
MassBimmer's Avatar
No_Country
306
Rep
7,433
Posts

Drives: 2023 i4 M50
Join Date: May 2009
Location: MA

iTrader: (6)

Garage List
2009 BMW  [9.24]
I had the same issue and replaced the end links. Unfortunately it was a blown front strut
Appreciate 0
      03-13-2015, 09:01 PM   #11
Rich-
Private First Class
Rich-'s Avatar
United_States
12
Rep
138
Posts

Drives: 2010 335xi 06 A3 S-line 3.2
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Sioux Falls SD

iTrader: (3)

well the drivers side front endlink is busted, the bolt that goes to the strut was sheared off and the endlink was flopping around, i will call the dealer tomorrow and see how ridiculous their prices are are there any pros or cons to aftermarket ones?
ECS sells a "Preformance heavy duty" one for half the price i don't know what would be performance or Heavy Duty about it. it looks like it might be steel, VS the OEM is aluminum that is twice as thick.

the pass side one was tight, but i could still hear clunking from what sounded like it was coming from both sides.. I don't know if having my endlink disconnected and flopping on the drivers side would cause a clunk on both sides of the car or not..

I could tell that it looks as if it has been broken for a good long while as the bolt had corroded and crusty where it was broken
Appreciate 0
      03-13-2015, 09:06 PM   #12
Rich-
Private First Class
Rich-'s Avatar
United_States
12
Rep
138
Posts

Drives: 2010 335xi 06 A3 S-line 3.2
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Sioux Falls SD

iTrader: (3)

Quote:
Originally Posted by SJ335i View Post
It's the end links. I had the same problem and I just kept adjusting them till it stopped
what do you mean adjusting? they are either tight or loose.
Appreciate 0
      03-13-2015, 09:22 PM   #13
Needbmwpartzz
Colonel
Needbmwpartzz's Avatar
851
Rep
2,793
Posts

Drives: 2009 bmw 328i x-drive
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Kitchener/Waterloo

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rich-
Quote:
Originally Posted by SJ335i View Post
It's the end links. I had the same problem and I just kept adjusting them till it stopped
what do you mean adjusting? they are either tight or loose.
Some have aftermarket adjustable end links.
Appreciate 0
      03-14-2015, 09:54 PM   #14
Karman
Second Lieutenant
22
Rep
274
Posts

Drives: 335i e92 07 space gray
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: CT

iTrader: (0)

I have changed almost everything , I have a question, when I was changing my top support guide today the strut wasn't coming out I got rough with it the middle arm (one coming straight horizontal from the car) popped out? Popped back in to original state...the thing is I'm still getting sound from that side. Changed support guides sway bar end links .. Rear control arm bushings could it be the strut is blown I'm on V1s. Please I need to settle this it's too annoying.
Appreciate 0
      03-15-2015, 08:07 AM   #15
E90joee
Captain
United_States
147
Rep
796
Posts

Drives: 2011 335i xdrive
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: queens, ny

iTrader: (0)

wheel bearing?
Appreciate 0
      03-15-2015, 12:32 PM   #16
mlifxs
Diamond Geezer
mlifxs's Avatar
212
Rep
2,385
Posts

Drives: Jet Black 2007 328i Saloon
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Florida

iTrader: (6)

Garage List
Rich, one other suggestion: remove front sway bar and end links, completely. Car will be driveable, just not as fun. If sound is still there, it's not your end links.

Regarding new end links, I recently bought Meyle HD end links and they seem to work well.
Appreciate 0
      03-15-2015, 05:24 PM   #17
Rich-
Private First Class
Rich-'s Avatar
United_States
12
Rep
138
Posts

Drives: 2010 335xi 06 A3 S-line 3.2
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Sioux Falls SD

iTrader: (3)

Quote:
Originally Posted by mlifxs View Post
Rich, one other suggestion: remove front sway bar and end links, completely. Car will be driveable, just not as fun. If sound is still there, it's not your end links.

Regarding new end links, I recently bought Meyle HD end links and they seem to work well.
I have already removed the drivers side as the top bolt was broken and it was just flopping round. the noise is still there I will hopefully get the new endlinks early this week and see how much of the noise disappears.

I have a strong feeling that it will remain, then the search will continue, both sides of my V1's looked to be slightly leaking but it still seems to handle fairly nice ( not like a worn out shock) I do think the V1's will be replaced, but I just need to find out what with,????
Appreciate 0
      03-15-2015, 08:07 PM   #18
Karman
Second Lieutenant
22
Rep
274
Posts

Drives: 335i e92 07 space gray
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: CT

iTrader: (0)

No wheel bearing would be more vibration than clunk I'm going to try new lower control arms
Appreciate 0
      03-16-2015, 08:01 AM   #19
cdgatti
Colonel
cdgatti's Avatar
255
Rep
2,547
Posts

Drives: e90 328i
Join Date: May 2011
Location: KY

iTrader: (4)

Quote:
Originally Posted by mlifxs
Rich, one other suggestion: remove front sway bar and end links, completely. Car will be driveable, just not as fun. If sound is still there, it's not your end links.

Regarding new end links, I recently bought Meyle HD end links and they seem to work well.
+1 get the meyle HD links about $26 each from fcp euro and install yourself.
__________________
OEM Black grill and Blackline tails - LCI halogens with Lux V2 coded as DRL - 3M Crystalline - BMS PBX - OEM Euro Airbox with K&N - Hardwired CTEK - Bilstein B6 w/OEM springs and SP perches - Conti DWS06 - HiFi-Helix DSP - JLAudio HD/XD-Morel - CD changer trim - AE optical out
Appreciate 0
      03-16-2015, 08:56 PM   #20
Denny347
Major
Denny347's Avatar
347
Rep
1,076
Posts

Drives: 2008 M3 E90
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Indianapolis, IN

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Karman View Post
No wheel bearing would be more vibration than clunk I'm going to try new lower control arms
Let us know if it works. I replaced my struts, upper control arms and end links and I'm still getting clunks like something is loose. I likely need to replace the lower control arm.
Appreciate 0
      03-17-2015, 05:02 PM   #21
Karman
Second Lieutenant
22
Rep
274
Posts

Drives: 335i e92 07 space gray
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: CT

iTrader: (0)

How many miles you have stock suspension? Ill be getting them installed tomorrow .
Appreciate 0
      03-17-2015, 06:45 PM   #22
vwetish
Banned
30
Rep
399
Posts

Drives: e90 335i
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Chicago, IL

iTrader: (7)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Denny347 View Post
Let us know if it works. I replaced my struts, upper control arms and end links and I'm still getting clunks like something is loose. I likely need to replace the lower control arm.
How about the strut mounts?
Appreciate 0
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:55 AM.




e90post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST