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      05-15-2019, 06:33 PM   #2223
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901S is old. *really* old. Basically, I only support the newest firmware versions. There's no real reason to use old ones.

I can update my database with the information from rjahl's post, then you will only see those ZB#s for 921S.
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      05-16-2019, 01:37 AM   #2224
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901S is old. *really* old. Basically, I only support the newest firmware versions. There's no real reason to use old ones.

I can update my database with the information from rjahl's post, then you will only see those ZB#s for 921S.
Ah I do understand. So yes maybe for other Z4 drivers this will help in the future. For now its fine, I can choose the right one with the help of the Excel table. For my understanding I need to flash:

7577968A.0pa.zip 7623581 ( S7623582.0da.zip / S7623582.0da / S7623582.0da.bin )

The software ID 0049PP0L921S0YD3S is equal to my current MSV70_S7581341_Z4_30i_to_30si.0da file so I only need to flash the .0da files am I correct?
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      05-16-2019, 08:59 AM   #2225
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If you're flashing the 0pa I would just flash the RSA deleted one. Then you can go back and forth between stock and tunes after that.

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      05-16-2019, 11:22 AM   #2226
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If you're flashing the 0pa I would just flash the RSA deleted one. Then you can go back and forth between stock and tunes after that.
I allready flased the RSA delete one. I am running the 265hp file right now. The only problem I have is the bad driving behavoir. Therefore I want to go back to the stock file. Since maybe its the file, and maybe the intake manifold. Which i allready checked ten times now. So I try to go back with the stock file.

So to go stock again I take the 0da file.
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      05-16-2019, 11:34 AM   #2227
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      05-16-2019, 12:26 PM   #2228
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I just did and made a little testdrive. You wont believe but the car is driving good. Now strange shocking behavoir its running quite smooth right now. Offcourse I am missing the extra HP so its not the way to go. But I am very interested in the map differences.

I am driving the stock file with 3-stage inlet right now. The problem I have with the tuned file is the bad driving behaivoir below 2000 RPM where the engine is shocking.

Where I feel a little bit strange, one of the files I attached tells me the car runs the 901S program, the other screenshot tells me 921S. That should be okay.

Well Why can't I just flash a Z4 3.0SI file US or Europe to the car? Will it work.
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      05-16-2019, 01:43 PM   #2229
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Because the power class is wrong. It will run in limp mode.
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      05-16-2019, 02:05 PM   #2230
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True, thats what i also noticed when i was searching for the upgrade. So the tune I had is the Z4 e85 3.0SI file with the 3.0I powerclass byte. But how is the Z4 driving so bad? Maybe do the same trick with the 3.0SI US file? Maybe the do some other changes as well? The US Z4 is also build in US. Maybe with some other hardware parts. What do you think @hassmaschine
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      05-16-2019, 02:59 PM   #2231
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True, thats what i also noticed when i was searching for the upgrade. So the tune I had is the Z4 e85 3.0SI file with the 3.0I powerclass byte. But how is the Z4 driving so bad? Maybe do the same trick with the 3.0SI US file? Maybe the do some other changes as well? The US Z4 is also build in US. Maybe with some other hardware parts. What do you think @hassmaschine
If your car drives well with the stock tune, and the three stage tune youíre using has no changes other than the power class, my guess would be something is up with your DISA valves.

Other than the power class, there is literally no change to the tune compared to a stock 3.0si.
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      05-16-2019, 05:02 PM   #2232
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I'm actually wondering if I have the wrong file as the 3.0si up, and he's just the first one to actually try it. lol.
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      05-16-2019, 05:15 PM   #2233
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If your car drives well with the stock tune, and the three stage tune youíre using has no changes other than the power class, my guess would be something is up with your DISA valves.

Other than the power class, there is literally no change to the tune compared to a stock 3.0si.
I totally agree on that. Well I will try to flash the file back to my car tomorrow. And somehow I will try to findout the correct working for my DISA valve's. I allready did the actuator test were both valve sounds the operate the right way.

Thereby, for my understanding the first DISA valve is operating above 2000RPM so sounds a bit strange for me.

I will keep you guys updated.
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      05-16-2019, 05:20 PM   #2234
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I'm actually wondering if I have the wrong file as the 3.0si up, and he's just the first one to actually try it. lol.
Sorry I am not saying your file is wrong, but just try to find out what cause is of my problem. Changing the maps is the easyest and best way to do that, since I checked the manifold allready for leaks and good operating.

I will also check the files myself, I find out ealier with the help of you guys where the powerclass byte is located. The only problem is the checksum and offcourse to pass the security checks. Were you guys did a great job.

Maybe if you can find some time, its a good idea to verify the files? And maybe change the powerclass in US 3.0is file so its still a US car? I you can tell me how to fix the checksum I am willing to try doing that myself. The hard work is done.
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      05-16-2019, 05:27 PM   #2235
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You can modify the power class yourself (or anything else really) and upload the file. Bimmerlabs will correct the checksum and generate an 0da that you can flash.
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      05-17-2019, 08:54 AM   #2236
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Sorry I am not saying your file is wrong, but just try to find out what cause is of my problem. Changing the maps is the easyest and best way to do that, since I checked the manifold allready for leaks and good operating.

I will also check the files myself, I find out ealier with the help of you guys where the powerclass byte is located. The only problem is the checksum and offcourse to pass the security checks. Were you guys did a great job.

Maybe if you can find some time, its a good idea to verify the files? And maybe change the powerclass in US 3.0is file so its still a US car? I you can tell me how to fix the checksum I am willing to try doing that myself. The hard work is done.
what's your serial #?
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      05-17-2019, 09:04 AM   #2237
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what's your serial #?
His VIN was shown on a INPA screen capture in an earlier post. Vin decoder shown below.
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thanks -

OK, it's fixed. Try the new file. I can't test it myself since I don't have a Z4. Also, now you should see just the stock ZB#s for download, not all of the MSV70 files that exist.
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OK, it's fixed. Try the new file. I can't test it myself since I don't have a Z4. Also, now you should see just the stock ZB#s for download, not all of the MSV70 files that exist.
Thanks guys. I will give it a try right now

Edit. The car is driving well now. The current file I have is, when looking for the numbers, the Z4 3.0SI US version right?

Now I am curious about the file used in the 5 series and X5 models. I find out these cars have 272 HP with the same engine N52B30. Can I also go for that power? Furtermore.. does anyone has a Damos file for this ECU type? I there experience of someone how makes this engine even faster? I guess BMW tuned the engine with the goal to go to the max. Since it doenst have a turbo or so.

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OK, it's fixed. Try the new file. I can't test it myself since I don't have a Z4. Also, now you should see just the stock ZB#s for download, not all of the MSV70 files that exist.
Thanks guys. I will give it a try right now

Edit. The car is driving well now. The current file I have is, when looking for the numbers, the Z4 3.0SI US version right?

Now I am curious about the file used in the 5 series and X5 models. I find out these cars have 272 HP with the same engine N52B30. Can I also go for that power? Furtermore.. does anyone has a Damos file for this ECU type? I there experience of someone how makes this engine even faster? I guess BMW tuned the engine with the goal to go to the max. Since it doenst have a turbo or so.
What, you just gained 40hp (crank) and you are looking for more on the same day. That was quick, most people drive around for a while before adapting to the extra power and looking for more. At this pace you might be in the wrong car.😦.

This was the easiest power gain you are going to get. It's all uphill from here.
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Thanks guys. I will give it a try right now

Edit. The car is driving well now. The current file I have is, when looking for the numbers, the Z4 3.0SI US version right?

Now I am curious about the file used in the 5 series and X5 models. I find out these cars have 272 HP with the same engine N52B30. Can I also go for that power? Furtermore.. does anyone has a Damos file for this ECU type? I there experience of someone how makes this engine even faster? I guess BMW tuned the engine with the goal to go to the max. Since it doenst have a turbo or so.
As far as Iím aware, itís only the direct injection version that makes 272
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Forget about the factory 273 hp tunes. Several of us have dug into this and they really don't exist. It's a mixture of errors in web sites like BMW archive and marketing between DIN HP and PS. The N53 has 273 hp but used direct injection to get there.

The SUVs and E89 version have something like 258 or 260 Hp but there is nothing in the tune, gains are from the exhaust system.

If you look at the maps, these tunes are essentially 330 tunes.
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Yeah, don't lose sight of the idea that BMW rates their engine versions in kW, and sometimes it's fuzzy what conversion factor is used by the US marketing group to determine what they want that to equate to in horsepower. Wiki lists a 195kW version of the N52 in the Z4 and a 200kW version in the SUVs. N53 also is listed as being rated for 200kW in the 30i designation models where it was installed. Since we never had N53 in the US, there wouldn't have been much reason for anyone to assign a horsepower value to it.
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Hello Guys,

To bad, today my MIL lights up and I have some errors. Error due to communication from the instrument cluster to the DME. Somehow it has a problem with the fuel level sensors and the communication in general. Its looks like the DME doesnt recieve the information of the cluster anymore. Maybe I need to update the instrument cluster as well? A little bit strange since the tune file I get earlier (which was the wrong one) doenst have any of these faultcodes.

The faultcodes I have now are 2DE3 (no message from instrument cluster)and two regarding to left and right tank level sensor. Everything is working, only the MIL lights up now.

The extra HP is just since i am curious in the differences in the files for the different type of cars.

Maybe there is a configuration error or so? Are we sure we used the E85 file? I think the configurationsettings are also in the file? For my understanding there are no differences in the 3.0i and 3.0si for the 2006 my. The first tune file was error free. only the bad driving behavior. now the driving is good only there are faultcodes left.

someone that can help me?

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