[Cchristianh20]

ive been looking into this for a while I wonder if I should get it for a cic replacement I use my android everyday and to not be able to use it in my car is very upsetting has there been any update to the system or to the way it responds to your phones cause I see a lot of ppl aren't happy but a lot of ppl are?

[gottagofast13]

I just bought an e90 from an owner who had already installed the 8.8” unit on a car with CCC. As everyone else has experienced, Bluetooth streaming is pretty bad...it sounds like no one has found a good solution there. Has anyone tried a USB or MicroSD connected directly to the AVIN? Is sound quality close to stock sound quality?

Also, in my experience when I’m on a Bluetooth call I’m totally stuck on the Android Bluetooth/phone screen and I can’t switch out to look at Nav (google maps)? Has anyone figured out a way to do this, or are you just stuck on that screen any time you’re on a call?

[Cchristianh20]

Originally Posted by gottagofast13

I just bought an e90 from an owner who had already installed the 8.8” unit on a car with CCC. As everyone else has experienced, Bluetooth streaming is pretty bad...it sounds like no one has found a good solution there. Has anyone tried a USB or MicroSD connected directly to the AVIN? Is sound quality close to stock sound quality?

Also, in my experience when I’m on a Bluetooth call I’m totally stuck on the Android Bluetooth/phone screen and I can’t switch out to look at Nav (google maps)? Has anyone figured out a way to do this, or are you just stuck on that screen any time you’re on a call?

im still thinking about getting one. I feel like anything at this point in time is better than the oem cic. I just want to know more about the head unit b4 I buy it does android auto work well can you talk to the phone with the mic that comes with it

[325d09]

Is the poor sound quality gen1? Or are people referring to poor sound quality on gen2? About to pull the trigger and upgrade Cic profession in e92 to the gen2 but only if sound quality is Good!
Any help much appreciated

[Cchristianh20]

Originally Posted by 325d09

Is the poor sound quality gen1? Or are people referring to poor sound quality on gen2? About to pull the trigger and upgrade Cic profession in e92 to the gen2 but only if sound quality is Good!
Any help much appreciated

If uou decide to get this let me know because I need something different better at this moment anything with android auto is better.

[toddyus]

I took a chance and pulled the trigger on this unit:

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/New-...ceBeautifyAB=0

It is a 32G ROM, 2GB model running Android 7.1. Otherwise, appears to be similar/same unit AVIN is selling including the BMW ID6 interface. It's a gamble. Don't know how their support will be. I'll report in when I receive it.

[Yam_440i]

Please do let us know when you recieve and fit it.

Particularly the sound quality and general speed/performance

[BeamerNub]

Originally Posted by Yam_335i

Please do let us know when you recieve and fit it.

Particularly the sound quality and general speed/performance

If it contains the TDA7851, the audio will be excellent. The newer PX5 units, pretty much all come with this amp chip and it is equivalent if not better than the stock audio system. There's nothing on the aliexpress page about the output. The way to know is the output will be 4x48W.

The old/cheaper units use the TDA7388 and the audio quality is not good at all. A constant problem on these units and as such there are modders who replace it with a Pioneer amp chip:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/and...grade-t3589587

[Yam_440i]

Originally Posted by BeamerNub

If it contains the TDA7851, the audio will be excellent. The newer PX5 units, pretty much all come with this amp chip and it is equivalent if not better than the stock audio system. There's nothing on the aliexpress page about the output. The way to know is the output will be 4x48W.

The old/cheaper units use the TDA7388 and the audio quality is not good at all. A constant problem on these units and as such there are modders who replace it with a Pioneer amp chip:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/and...grade-t3589587

Awesome information, very helpful.

If anyone finds out that these have the newer TDA7851 amp as above, please let me know!!

[Yam_440i]

https://m.aliexpress.com/item/328809...t.32880994512&

Found one with 4x48W with newer Android 7.1

But can't actually trust what they say.

Ideally need someone who has bought a newer one to confirm

[BeamerNub]

I have one of the ones designed for the E90. Sound quality is bob on, but obviously I can't speak for the unit you've linked.

My only issue with Ali is that it's going to come from China, isn't it? Are there any that you can source from the UK with a warranty etc?

[toddyus]

Originally Posted by BeamerNub

If it contains the TDA7851, the audio will be excellent. The newer PX5 units, pretty much all come with this amp chip and it is equivalent if not better than the stock audio system. There's nothing on the aliexpress page about the output. The way to know is the output will be 4x48W.

The old/cheaper units use the TDA7388 and the audio quality is not good at all. A constant problem on these units and as such there are modders who replace it with a Pioneer amp chip:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/and...grade-t3589587

Intriguing. Is there a way to discern the chip from within the OS, or only by looking at the physical chip? I haven't installed mine yet and I'm tempted to open it up and check. I would need to do it without damaging the "warranty void if broken" seal.

[BeamerNub]

Originally Posted by toddyus

Intriguing. Is there a way to discern the chip from within the OS, or only by looking at the physical chip? I haven't installed mine yet and I'm tempted to open it up and check. I would need to do it without damaging the "warranty void if broken" seal.

Not that I can think of. Do you know the brand/model of the unit ? Any details?

The original Joying units used bad amp chips that apparently produced a very mushy middly audio output. You can EQ them to sin, but the output is still very compressed. The newer units have an in-built DSP-lite and contain a superior amp chip, hence the audio quality surpasses probably stock OEM. I know there will be Alpine's and Pioneer's out there which sound better but they ain't going to offer the same functionality. I have to say, the functionality they offer is unsurpassed.

[Yam_440i]

Originally Posted by BeamerNub

Not that I can think of. Do you know the brand/model of the unit ? Any details?

The original Joying units used bad amp chips that apparently produced a very mushy middly audio output. You can EQ them to sin, but the output is still very compressed. The newer units have an in-built DSP-lite and contain a superior amp chip, hence the audio quality surpasses probably stock OEM. I know there will be Alpine's and Pioneer's out there which sound better but they ain't going to offer the same functionality. I have to say, the functionality they offer is unsurpassed.

Could you provide a link to the newer unit wth the better sound quality?

[toddyus]

Originally Posted by BeamerNub

Not that I can think of. Do you know the brand/model of the unit ? Any details?

The original Joying units used bad amp chips that apparently produced a very mushy middly audio output. You can EQ them to sin, but the output is still very compressed. The newer units have an in-built DSP-lite and contain a superior amp chip, hence the audio quality surpasses probably stock OEM. I know there will be Alpine's and Pioneer's out there which sound better but they ain't going to offer the same functionality. I have to say, the functionality they offer is unsurpassed.

Not much info on the product. It has what i presume to be a product code or SKU: D8080-02. No other documentation or identifying information that I can see. No brand. the box says, generically, "Car Multimedia System."

[maddmatth]

Hearing that they have better sound quality now has peaked my interest again. Keen to hear comments from anyone who gets their hands on one!

[BeamerNub]

Originally Posted by Yam_335i

Could you provide a link to the newer unit wth the better sound quality?

http://xtrons.co.uk/pe9890bpl-androi...-3-series.html
http://xtrons.co.uk/pb7890bp-android...-3-series.html

Both of these units have it. I have the 7 inch, Blueh has the 9 inch screen. To be honest, if you don't need a CD, I'd go for the bigger screen.

[BeamerNub]

Originally Posted by toddyus

Not much info on the product. It has what i presume to be a product code or SKU: D8080-02. No other documentation or identifying information that I can see. No brand. the box says, generically, "Car Multimedia System."

Take a photo, I'll see if I can recognise it.

if you go into the About, you can usually identify them from the MCU. There should be 3 letters which indicate the manufacturer.

https://forum.xda-developers.com/and...-mtcd-t3476880

[PaKii94]

Originally Posted by BeamerNub

http://xtrons.co.uk/pe9890bpl-androi...-3-series.html
http://xtrons.co.uk/pb7890bp-android...-3-series.html

Both of these units have it. I have the 7 inch, Blueh has the 9 inch screen. To be honest, if you don't need a CD, I'd go for the bigger screen.

Is there any for with IDRIVE?

[BeamerNub]

Not sure, haven't looked that closely. There are other iDrive units though. They're popping up a lot now.

[officer140]

Originally Posted by HollowmanVIII

Does it boot into the avin android side when you restart the car?

It has been glitchy and will sometimes boot android and sometimes boot OEM. Sometimes it will boot OEM & will give a "No Signal" message on the android side. I emailed AVIN and they sent me an update that supposedly fixes that issue. This was earlier today so I haven't had a chance to download and apply the update.

[Cchristianh20]

Originally Posted by officer140

It has been glitchy and will sometimes boot android and sometimes boot OEM. Sometimes it will boot OEM & will give a "No Signal" message on the android side. I emailed AVIN and they sent me an update that supposedly fixes that issue. This was earlier today so I haven't had a chance to download and apply the update.

do you have the 8.8 inch screen that replaces the factory cic if so do you recommend getting it. I plan on upgrading my cic and this seems to be the only option