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      05-01-2018, 08:33 AM   #45
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AJ emailed me and said that the VT1+ is the same as the new Gen 2 kit. Really fast response, I'm impressed with ESS.
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Read all thru the install instructions. Fairly straight forward and easy.
Uses STOCK injectors. No instructions to change out the injectors. Very interesting.

Couple of questions-

-Are there 6 new injectors included in the kit?
-What is the size of the SC pulley supplied
-What is the part number of the new belt
-What is the 'Copper Paste' to put on the bolts going into the engine block
-Is there any part numbers on the idler pulleys, SC Koyo pulley and the pulley on the bracket

Most interesting is that it looks like the SC housing could be 'clocked' so that the outlet is up high and pointing backwards. This could then go right into the TB and then into a custom intake manifold with an intercooler inside the manifold, similar to the B58 intake manifold.
With that last statement, does that mean one would have to remove the unit to drain/add the oil? (n00b questions, but honestly haven't held a piece of equipment like this, ever) Would it be upside down? Sorry if I am misunderstanding...
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AJ emailed me and said that the VT1+ is the same as the new Gen 2 kit. Really fast response, I'm impressed with ESS.
Yeah, great dude, he's the one who helped me. Pretty quick on the response time for sure!
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Most interesting is that it looks like the SC housing could be 'clocked' so that the outlet is up high and pointing backwards. This could then go right into the TB and then into a custom intake manifold with an intercooler inside the manifold, similar to the B58 intake manifold.
The supercharger in/out compressor housing itself can be rotated. There are multiple bolts around the outside of the housing which are loosened and the housing itself is rotated and the bolts are re-tightened.
The SC still mounts just as usual.
What this does is change the outflow position.

The ESS is setup with the outflow on the bottom.
I am saying loosen it and rotate it so that the outflow is on the top pointing backwards. This won't work/do anything on the ESS kit but would just have the outflow on the top which could then be plumbed into a custom intake manifold with a built in intercooler.

Here is a picture of what I mean-SC outlet on top.
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Most interesting is that it looks like the SC housing could be 'clocked' so that the outlet is up high and pointing backwards. This could then go right into the TB and then into a custom intake manifold with an intercooler inside the manifold, similar to the B58 intake manifold.
The supercharger in/out compressor housing itself can be rotated. There are multiple bolts around the outside of the housing which are loosened and the housing itself is rotated and the bolts are re-tightened.
The SC still mounts just as usual.
What this does is change the outflow position.

The ESS is setup with the outflow on the bottom.
I am saying loosen it and rotate it so that the outflow is on the top pointing backwards. This won't work/do anything on the ESS kit but would just have the outflow on the top which could then be plumbed into a custom intake manifold with a built in intercooler.

Here is a picture of what I mean-SC outlet on top.
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AHH Gotcha...
Sorry! Didn't read it thoroughly
So if you were able to do this, you'd be able to venture the possibility of an intercooled manifold?!
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There is a used VT1 kit on ebay now. It has a 130mm(5.12") pulley.
That sucker was sold immediately.

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That sucker was sold immediately.

Lol
Yeah, I offered $2k and was declined.
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Hope this helps...
BTW, Did NOT see copper paste...
Bob@BPC, when you guys worked with Moser, did you guys see said paste?

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1sD...mBTxww9RZn0bPy
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Hope this helps...
BTW, Did NOT see copper paste...
Bob@BPC, when you guys worked with Moser, did you guys see said paste?

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1sD...mBTxww9RZn0bPy
Thank you for very detailed pics.

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Hope this helps...
BTW, Did NOT see copper paste...
Bob@BPC, when you guys worked with Moser, did you guys see said paste?

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1sD...mBTxww9RZn0bPy
Thank you for very detailed pics.

I am super envious.
Sorry I didn't tear the bags up...
Scared of losing stuff
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First off congrats on the purchase and thanks for sharing the pics!

I'm curious as to why the supercharger has a braided line attached to it when it's supposed to be a self contained version?
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First off congrats on the purchase and thanks for sharing the pics!

I'm curious as to why the supercharger has a braided line attached to it when it's supposed to be a self contained version?
Thanks G!
Although it is self contained, I'm GUESSING its possible to lose some of the oil inside the unit, someway somehow... I'm honestly a newbie when it comes to this fancy stuff. Never had a FI car or FI equipment for that matter... Glad they supplied some oil with the kit though!
Moving forward with this, will definitely teach me a thing or two.
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It's a drain for the SC oil. The fill is on top of the SC housing, drain on the bottom where you can't get to it unless you pull the SC. They recommend oil change every 7500 miles.
So it is just for ease of oil change/drain.
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It's a drain for the SC oil. The fill is on top of the SC housing, drain on the bottom where you can't get to it unless you pull the SC. They recommend oil change every 7500 miles.
So it is just for ease of oil change/drain.
Welp, this is embarrasing lol...
I figured as much, thanks for the clarification.
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Any chance switching to the N54 intake mani could prove worthwhile?

Happy for you man, enjoy that boost!
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Any chance switching to the N54 intake mani could prove worthwhile?

Happy for you man, enjoy that boost!
Have honestly thought about it!
I know 2 different beasts entirely, but Alice also has an n54 manifold, and I wonder if it would benefit my car as well in the grand scheme of things. And of course follow it up with a 3.91 diff like big had mentioned in his n54 manifold write up.
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Have honestly thought about it!
I know 2 different beasts entirely, but Alice also has an n54 manifold, and I wonder if it would benefit my car as well in the grand scheme of things. And of course follow it up with a 3.91 diff like big had mentioned in his n54 manifold write up.
Well I believe the 3.91 would be great but only if you run the 7500rpm redline. Can you do that redline with the SC?

If so then for sure do a 3.91 with LSD. Your shift points at 7500 would not be bad at all the 2-3 shift will be around 58-59mph, 3-4 shift like 92-94mph. About the same as 3.73 rear diff with stock redline.
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Well I believe the 3.91 would be great but only if you run the 7500rpm redline. Can you do that redline with the SC?

If so then for sure do a 3.91 with LSD. Your shift points at 7500 would not be bad at all the 2-3 shift will be around 58-59mph, 3-4 shift like 92-94mph. About the same as 3.73 rear diff with stock redline.
Not recommended if you drive on the highway.
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Well I believe the 3.91 would be great but only if you run the 7500rpm redline. Can you do that redline with the SC?

If so then for sure do a 3.91 with LSD. Your shift points at 7500 would not be bad at all the 2-3 shift will be around 58-59mph, 3-4 shift like 92-94mph. About the same as 3.73 rear diff with stock redline.
Not recommended if you drive on the highway.
Right on...
Yeah, not too much of that for me here in VA.
However, live close to what would be the sticks in TX have to take the highway to get anywhere... The main plan if I was going to get an actual lsd was to get a 3.64 as a happy medium. But I need to read more on the types. Pete gave ne a nice TLDR about ramps the other day.
Just picking between what I've seen on diffsonline. But thats another big buy that probably wont happen for a while after the kit gets installed..
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Right on...
Yeah, not too much of that for me here in VA.
However, live close to what would be the sticks in TX have to take the highway to get anywhere... The main plan if I was going to get an actual lsd was to get a 3.64 as a happy medium. But I need to read more on the types. Pete gave ne a nice TLDR about ramps the other day.
Just picking between what I've seen on diffsonline. But thats another big buy that probably wont happen for a while after the kit gets installed..
Well, if you have a 330i, you already have the 3.64 I believe (which is actually what I want)

But I've known a few people with the Diffsonline diff, and I've heard good things. I'm more of a Wavetrac guy though, I'll be (maybe) looking into them.
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Right on...
Yeah, not too much of that for me here in VA.
However, live close to what would be the sticks in TX have to take the highway to get anywhere... The main plan if I was going to get an actual lsd was to get a 3.64 as a happy medium. But I need to read more on the types. Pete gave ne a nice TLDR about ramps the other day.
Just picking between what I've seen on diffsonline. But thats another big buy that probably wont happen for a while after the kit gets installed..
Well, if you have a 330i, you already have the 3.64 I believe (which is actually what I want)

But I've known a few people with the Diffsonline diff, and I've heard good things. I'm more of a Wavetrac guy though, I'll be (maybe) looking into them.
Mine is a manual, almost certain its a 3.15
And there are sooo many options on the website, dude. I'm just there scratching my head trying to figure my life out lol... I THINK I read quaife was the way to go in terms of keeping DTC functional, but even then, I'm sure theres pros and cons to going that specific route vs. another differential with dtc disabled
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Mine is a manual, almost certain its a 3.15
And there are sooo many options on the website, dude. I'm just there scratching my head trying to figure my life out lol... I THINK I read quaife was the way to go in terms of keeping DTC functional, but even then, I'm sure theres pros and cons to going that specific route vs. another differential with dtc disabled
I didn't know that they didn't work with the DTC. But for me, I like the fact that the Wavetrac and other ATB diffs are basically maintenance free. I'm a set it and forget it type of guy.
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