[vasillalov]

Originally Posted by Ilma

I like it!

This improvement reminds me of my former APR flash which used the cruise control stalk in a similar manner....but this is even better and more direct.
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BINGO! That's exactly what I was thinking as well!

Shiv: very nice! I like it a lot even though I still do not own a tune. Procede is definitely moving up on my list though and if things continue this way, I may not wait enough for GIAC Stage 2.

Vasil

[alextremo]

Got it - so obvious follow up question... is there a way to have map 3 autotune map 1 when no meth is flowing and map 2 when meth is flowing? I was hoping to run map 3 exclusively and control whether or not meth was on through just the hardware controller.

The benefit of this would be the between 0-8psi when on map 3 (or before your meth flow controller is set to activate) and not having to reset your autotune values when not running meth.

Right now with current functionality that 0-8psi is at the default settings (13.5UT and 50IC) When meth flows it jumps to 15.9UT and 0IC (my autotuned map 2 values) When I run with injection mode off map 1 autotunes to 15.1UT and ~20IC.

What I think will happen with the new map 3 is that I will be running 13.5UT and 50IC until meth flows, then will switch to 15.9UT and 0IC (just like today)

What I tried to describe I would be running at 15.1UT and 20IC with no meth flowing and jump to 15.9UT and 0IC when meth flows.

Not even sure this makes sense, but there seems to be a big jump when meth activates when my settings are at default - maybe it's the delay between the boost, the flow controller, and the procede, or maybe the difference in IC settings.

[AltecBX]

That is nice able toadjust the rpm shifts points with the stalker.

[scalbert]

Once again, nice. But isn't this Labor Day weekend?

[OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by scalbert

Once again, nice. But isn't this Labor Day weekend?

Doesn't that mean you are supposed to labor?

[scalbert]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Doesn't that mean you are supposed to labor?

Labor away then.

[datbimmerdoe]

good shit.

[MKE_M3]

when will these changes be available? Also, when will the latest and greatest maps be non beta?

[MKE_M3]

Originally Posted by jdemetry

when will these changes be available? Also, when will the latest and greatest maps be non beta?

never mind, I just saw the other thread.

[Sparky66]

Originally Posted by Calvin@Vishnu

This will solve the customer complaint of autotuning not working when running in progressive meth mode (but with the meth system turned off/run dry).

Map 3 is only available when you have Future use set 1-99 which indicates max meth flow. So those running the default value of 0 will not even see this map. But those running progressive meth mapping will. All they need to do is switch over to Map 3 to have their usual progressive meth mapping with AutoTuning working only when meth is flowing. Nothing new in that respect.

But now, if you choose to turn off your meth harndware (or run out of meth), you don't need to simply resign yourself to running your conservative Map1 boost/timing setting with no AutoTuning. Instead, simply switch over to Map1 and get your AutoTuning active again. So there is no longer a need to hook up your laptop to set Future Use back to 0.

I know this is a long shot, but is it possible for those that set the Injection mode to 1-99 and meth runs out, the tune switches automatically to map1(autotune) and Standard Injection mode. Then, once meth flow is detected again, it automatically switches back to map3 and Meth Injection mode.
The fact that you need to manually switch to Map1/Map2 to access an Autotune map once meth runs out seems cumbersome, as many will forget or not notice.

[lamia2super]

this might be a dumb question but I haven't tried this yet and I just want to be certain. How do you know if map2 is getting auto-tuned when you plug the laptop in when your on map3? also progressive is cool and all but isnt it faster just to switch over to map2 when you race since the meth sprays when you hit the gas?

[OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by lamia2super

this might be a dumb question but I haven't tried this yet and I just want to be certain. How do you know if map2 is getting auto-tuned when you plug the laptop in when your on map3? also progressive is cool and all but isnt it faster just to switch over to map2 when you race since the meth sprays when you hit the gas?

Just as long as there is meth flow, map 2 is autotuning. You confirm this by logging current ignition correction and current boost level (debug byte 2 and 5) and you will see them move as you are on boost with meth flowing.

You can run Map2 and not use the progressive mapping feature (map3). But you will have no failsafes active other than autotuning. So if meth flow fails, you will be very aggressive until autotuning works boost downwards which takes some time. The only time I recommend running map2 with meth is when you are already running race gas and are using meth mainly for cooling and not for knock suppression. In that case, it's fine to target a high boost/low IC right way and not have to wait for meth to flow (as progressive mapping map 3 does).

Shiv

[themyst]

Ok this confuses me. I have the Labonte IFS-30 flow sensor, it is constantly spraying at 16 on a CM10 coolingmist nozzle so the meth is working fine, my question is do I have to physically set to Map 3 in order for autotune to be enabled on progressive meth? Also, are the UT/IC values of Map 2 what Map 3 autotunes off? So, to speed up the autotune learning, I would have to change Map 2's settings on my laptop to get Map 3 to autotune off those settings when meth is flowing?

I'm a confused lost puppy

[Papajim]

Everytime we switch maps the autotune still resets?

[psu139]

Do we still need to activate the meth system witht the key fob or will the selection of map 3 turn it on?

[OpenFlash]

It's a whole lot simpler than that. Map 3 simply turns on progressive mapping between map 1 and map 2. And it works exactly like it did before. So if you run methanol, just leave it on map 3 and forget about it. When meth is flowing, it will autotune off of your map 2 values like normal.

If you decide to turn off meth (or run out of it) simply toggle over to map1 which doesn't require meth flow to enable autotuning.

Another way to look at it: the procede doesn't recognize your injection mode value until you switch to map 3. Until you do, it believes it is 0.

And yes, switching maps resets learning. Which is why it's a good idea to set initial boost/timing settings reasonably close to typical autotuned settings if you switch maps often.

And nope, the map switching does not turn on/off you meth system/ hardware.

Cheers
Shiv

[themyst]

Shiv- isn't the whole point of progressive meth to automatically target map 1 values if the meth runs dry? Means you don't need to swap to map 1 unless u specifically don't want progressive meth for whatever retarded reason

[OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by themyst

Shiv- isn't the whole point of progressive meth to automatically target map 1 values if the meth runs dry? Means you don't need to swap to map 1 unless u specifically don't want progressive meth for whatever retarded reason

Absolutely. But the "problem" (i put it in quotes because it's really not a problem per se) is that when the lack of meth keeps you on map1, there is no autotuning. Which isn't a big deal as Map1 settings are typical pump gas conservative. For you and me, I don't car as I'll just run that until I fill up my meth bottle and be back to full high hp boogie.

But for those who aren't going to fill up their meth bottle (or just decide to turn off meth) for a while, they may want to run in standard injection mode with full autotuning. Before, they had to open up their laptop and set injection mode to 0. Now they can simply use the cruise control stalk to toggle back to Map1 to get the same effect.

I think if we had done it this way from the start, there would be less confusion. Because it's actually simpler than how we did it before