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09-08-2016, 09:08 AM | #45 |
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Our V70 came with General Gmax AS03 tires and the road noise was unbearable. Both Tire Rack and Consumer Reports scored that tire poorly for noise. I swapped them out for GT tires that were more appropriate for a family wagon.
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If we all had the luxury of driving through the canyons of Malibu everyday, etc. I'm sure that would be a different story. |
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I get it, it's truly the reason why there are just as many E9x's without ZSP. How my car reached over 50k on the original RE050A's is anybody's guess. The snows took about 7k, so 43k total. I always thought it funny to squeeze every last bit out of a tire--I did it with my Nissan. I believe it was over 80k on the RS-As which in retrospect was silly. Anyway, my point is you can have a E9x that has ZSP, and the dealer is willing to mount 4 A/S non-runflats on the vehicle, if that means they can get your $2,600. |
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Dang this thread as I read it one day before I'm supposed to purchase a set of the DWS 06. I think I'm going to roll the dice and stay with the Continentals. I live in Atlanta and when it snows 2 inches down here the state locks down and these tires are supposed to be decent in the snow. I just hope there is not much drop off from my runflats as I don't believe we drive the car hard enough to notice.
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09-08-2016, 12:36 PM | #51 |
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I feel like I need to chime in here with the approaching obnoxious bashing of A/S tires. Yes, I agree that having seperate winter and summer tires is ideal. But some people dont have the space, or maybe don't want to have to buy another set of wheels and tires, and these tires aren't cheap for good ones. A full set of wheels and tires for a performance setup car is approaching $4k.
Some of the modern A/S tires are approaching dedicated summer tires in dry grip, and few summer tires do "waaay" better in the wet. Plus, most drivers only drive on the road and you will be hard pressed to exceed the limits of a "performance" A/S on the road. They perform when it is below 40*, which happens in summer time where I am. So you get a tire that does pretty well on the road during summer, and can get you through a limited amount of snow during winter all while saving money and getting tires that can last 50k miles. No need to be dicks to people that don't need either extremes of performance and want to save a bit while getting a tire with 80% of the capability. |
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Also, for those that doubt braking capability between the two categories, go review some actual benchmarks and test results before making assumptions: Results from 50-0 mph Dry Wet 78 112 (PSS) 80 107 (A/S 3+) Wet/Dry lap, slalom, etc. times are also within 1/10 of a sec. No need for me to regurgitate easily verifiable information though... |
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It's like data can show anything you want it to. It's pretty clear with this thread that a/s is the only answer. |
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. Gosh, what kind of rims, 3 piece that weigh 15 lbs? I have PSS on 189's and snows on rims, and I don't even think 2 sets of tires with 1 set of rims even cost $1700. I don't have tpms in the snows, maybe that would take the setup to $1940.
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It just shows data from all seasons versus summer tires. I'm not making a case for a specific tire.
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I totally get that a/s tires make sense for some folks. My fiancee's Subaru Impreza is rolling on a/s tires and we're unlikely to be buying snow tires for it, because the a/s tires are good enough for her and she tolerates how much room my car crap including whatever wheels aren't on my car takes up in the garage. But for me, I got my stick shift turbo BMW coupe and put a bunch of money and effort into modifying it because I want to really drive it, so the last thing I'm going to do is compromise on a set of a/s tires. |
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No need to act like a 12 year old. It is also a little unfair to compare the a/s that is known to have the least feedback of pretty much any a/s to a summer in that comparison. But if you're happy with what you have, good. I can already pull significantly stupid speeds on curvy roads with an a/s, even in the rain. I am not tracking or aggressively autocrossing the car at the moment. Rarely get snow in the winter. I have actually driven an e61 with Michelin A/S3s (which aren't meant for snow) in ~5 inches of snow and ice, it had no problems, even when parking on sheet ice. I don't see why I need to spend extra on a second set when I get limited use out of them, and would rather keep the money in my pocket for now. |
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My car is tuned and goes to the track, that's why I bought it. Unlike you I actually enjoy my car enough to use it to it's full potential. Maybe a civic would be a great option for you! Thanks for your opinion though guy
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And your only using s04s??? Doesn't sound like using it to the full potential to me...
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