E90Post
 


 
BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum > E90 / E92 / E93 3-series Technical Forums > Mechanical Maintenance: Break-in / Oil & Fluids / Servicing / Warranty > Electronic oil gauge which mark is full?



Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      03-29-2019, 02:17 PM   #1
VIZSLA
Lieutenant
VIZSLA's Avatar
10
Rep
513
Posts

Drives: 2007 328i Coupe, 2012 328Xi Wa
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Sarasota

iTrader: (0)

Electronic oil gauge which mark is full?

Just had an oil change on my 2007 328i and The Gauge reads only to the third hash mark. Shouldn’t it be reading to the fourth?
Thanks.
Appreciate 0
      03-29-2019, 07:43 PM   #2
BKV122
Major
BKV122's Avatar
United_States
47
Rep
1,160
Posts

Drives: E90
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: NY

iTrader: (1)

Garage List
2006 330xi  [9.50]
Usually when you read the gauge, there is oil running through the engine. So you shouldn't see it full to the max if I am correct. It'll tell you to add a quart when necessary
__________________
Monaco Blue 330xi - Terra Interior/6-MT/Sport/Premium/Cold/CSL's/M3 Spoiler Lip/Black Kidney's
Appreciate 0
      03-29-2019, 07:45 PM   #3
TheMidnightNarwhal
Major General
TheMidnightNarwhal's Avatar
Canada
2655
Rep
6,285
Posts

Drives: 11' 335is DCT
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Gatineau, Quebec

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by BKV122 View Post
Usually when you read the gauge, there is oil running through the engine. So you shouldn't see it full to the max if I am correct. It'll tell you to add a quart when necessary

My gauge shows full marks. Unless older cars didn't show full marks

And yes it will tell you when to add some.
Appreciate 0
      03-29-2019, 08:30 PM   #4
VIZSLA
Lieutenant
VIZSLA's Avatar
10
Rep
513
Posts

Drives: 2007 328i Coupe, 2012 328Xi Wa
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Sarasota

iTrader: (0)

Thanks.
Appreciate 0
      03-30-2019, 01:09 PM   #5
Efthreeoh
General
United_States
17267
Rep
18,717
Posts

Drives: The E90 + Z4 Coupe & Z3 R'ster
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Virginia

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by VIZSLA View Post
Just had an oil change on my 2007 328i and The Gauge reads only to the third hash mark. Shouldn’t it be reading to the fourth?
Thanks.
Who did the oil change? Do they know what they are doing? The N52 just needs to be drained, change the filter, and pour back in 7 quarts of new oil. If the person doesn't know what they are doing, and doesn't understand how the e-dipstick works, they can either under-fill or overfill the engine.

If the oil change is done quickly with the engine hot, the oil level when checked right after the oil change can show the "old" reading. So if someone changes the oil, and uses a refill procedure that is normally used for a mechanical dipstick equipped engine, which is adding in 1 quart less than full, then running the engine, then checking the mechanical dipstick to "top off" the level, they can mis-fill the engine. On the N52, if the oil level read between the Max and Min marks before the oil change, and the new oil was added at 6 quarts instead of 7, the "new" reading can show the same oil level as before the oil change if the engine is still hot. So if the technician adds 6 quarts and then immediately checks the oil level, he will get a false reading and short the engine of oil. Once the engine reestablishes the new oil level it will show the oil level as not full.

Or....

The N52 oil quantity spec is 6.9 quarts or 6.5 liters. I've found that adding exactly 6.5 liters will show up as a 3/4 full (i.e. 1/4 quart/liter low). If 6.7 L of oil is added, the e-dipstick will register as full.
__________________
A manual transmission can be set to "comfort", "sport", and "track" modes simply by the technique and speed at which you shift it; it doesn't need "modes", modes are for manumatics that try to behave like a real 3-pedal manual transmission. If you can money-shift it, it's a manual transmission. "Yeah, but NO ONE puts an automatic trans shift knob on a manual transmission."

Last edited by Efthreeoh; 03-30-2019 at 01:15 PM..
Appreciate 0
      03-30-2019, 01:19 PM   #6
VIZSLA
Lieutenant
VIZSLA's Avatar
10
Rep
513
Posts

Drives: 2007 328i Coupe, 2012 328Xi Wa
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Sarasota

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Efthreeoh View Post
Who did the oil change? Do they know what they are doing? The N52 just needs to be drained, change the filter, and pour back in 7 quarts of new oil. If the person doesn't know what they are doing, and doesn't understand how the e-dipstick works, they can either under-fill or overfill the engine.

If the oil change is done quickly with the engine hot, the oil level when checked right after the oil change can show the "old" reading. So if someone changes the oil, and uses a refill procedure that is normally used for a mechanical dipstick equipped engine, which is adding in 1 quart less than full, then running the engine, then checking the mechanical dipstick to "top off" the level, they can mis-fill the engine. On the N52, if the oil level read between the Max and Min marks before the oil change, and the new oil was added at 6 quarts instead of 7, the "new" reading can show the same oil level as before the oil change if the engine is still hot. So if the technician adds 6 quarts and then immediately checks the oil level, he will get a false reading and short the engine of oil. Once the engine reestablishes the new oil level it will show the oil level as not full.
Thanks.

It was done at a dealership.
For what that’s worth.

The readings have been taken since the oil change with plenty of opportunity for the system to recalibrate.

My question is simply what is a “full” reading?
Three quarters or four. Neither indicates a need for more oil, but the shop claims that going over the three quarter indication risks “over filling”.
Appreciate 0
      03-30-2019, 01:57 PM   #7
TheMidnightNarwhal
Major General
TheMidnightNarwhal's Avatar
Canada
2655
Rep
6,285
Posts

Drives: 11' 335is DCT
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Gatineau, Quebec

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by VIZSLA View Post
Thanks.

It was done at a dealership.
For what that’s worth.

The readings have been taken since the oil change with plenty of opportunity for the system to recalibrate.

My question is simply what is a “full” reading?
Three quarters or four. Neither indicates a need for more oil, but the shop claims that going over the three quarter indication risks “over filling”.
In my case I have a 335is for oil capacity is 6.5 liters/6.86 quarts and I always dump total of 7 quarts and always go on the 4th bar. It's only about 200ML more.
Appreciate 0
      03-30-2019, 03:58 PM   #8
VIZSLA
Lieutenant
VIZSLA's Avatar
10
Rep
513
Posts

Drives: 2007 328i Coupe, 2012 328Xi Wa
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Sarasota

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheMidnightNarwhal View Post
In my case I have a 335is for oil capacity is 6.5 liters/6.86 quarts and I always dump total of 7 quarts and always go on the 4th bar. It's only about 200ML more.
Thanks

My concern isn’t really about getting that last bit of oil, but rather if I can rely on the dealer’s explanations.
Appreciate 0
      04-25-2019, 09:35 PM   #9
Meeni
Gateropode
Meeni's Avatar
329
Rep
2,848
Posts

Drives: BMW 330i 06
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: TN

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by VIZSLA View Post
Thanks.

It was done at a dealership.
For what that’s worth.

The readings have been taken since the oil change with plenty of opportunity for the system to recalibrate.

My question is simply what is a “full” reading?
Three quarters or four. Neither indicates a need for more oil, but the shop claims that going over the three quarter indication risks “over filling”.
Procedure is to never top-off before the car says +1qt. Doing guess work does indeed risk over-filling. Any reading between full and +1qt is a good reading.
Appreciate 0
      04-25-2019, 10:37 PM   #10
VIZSLA
Lieutenant
VIZSLA's Avatar
10
Rep
513
Posts

Drives: 2007 328i Coupe, 2012 328Xi Wa
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Sarasota

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Meeni View Post
Procedure is to never top-off before the car says +1qt. Doing guess work does indeed risk over-filling. Any reading between full and +1qt is a good reading.
Thanks.
Appreciate 0
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:54 AM.




e90post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST