N54 water pump failure.

secretsquirrel · 03-17-2013, 08:42 PM

Mine took a dump today at 89k

~(-_-)~ · 03-29-2013, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by M3 Eater

did you try resetting the ECU before changing the water pump.

I had mine quit on me a few times when my battery was low.

Car over heated and wouldn't move at all.

took some trial and error but with a BT cable, i got it running again.

I'm curious... I store my car during the winter (Canada) and upon starting the car a few times over the winter the fans went on full speed every time. I usually keep the car on a trickle charger but decided not to this winter and started her up every 2 weeks... Lesson learnt, the battery went low.... I'm hoping I can reset it like you did....tips?

Is this just a quick fix, or should I just change the water pump and call it a day ?

mithund · 03-29-2013, 05:12 PM

Add me to the list guys! Mine went out a couple days ago, $1300+taxes later, I have a new Thermostat and a Waterpump. I called a local shop and they told me it's a very common occurrence in the E90s, how is there no recall on this? That's crazy!! Never getting another BMW again! So disappointed with their quality.

nc1mike · 03-29-2013, 07:04 PM

My 03/07 build 335i lasted 95,500 miles and threw no codes. Fan just went super high speed and I could here the pump croaking like a small frog. $600.00 and a DIY 5hrs later I'm back on road.

elig0nzal3z · 03-30-2013, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by mithund

Add me to the list guys! Mine went out a couple days ago, $1300+taxes later, I have a new Thermostat and a Waterpump. I called a local shop and they told me it's a very common occurrence in the E90s, how is there no recall on this? That's crazy!! Never getting another BMW again! So disappointed with their quality.

with you on that one buddy and just wait till your waste gates start to rattle there only covered till 85,000 after that new turbos it is.

nsx_modified · 03-30-2013, 05:14 PM

mine just went 2 days ago. 08' 335i auto, 77k km Same thing, yellow light, then 10 seconds later red light telling me to pull over. I drove 1km to place where I was grabbing lunch and called a flat bed in meantime. Had it towed to my dealer.

Apparently i bought this used and only part of it is covered under CPO. They are replacing my water pump under warranty but Im gonna hafta pay for the thermostat and labor. Quoted me $550, but said will prob be cheaper once they figure everything else that gets warrantied. (usually quotes the highest so customer doesn't get disappointed).

RevALot · 04-09-2013, 05:52 PM

About a 1.5 months ago, I took my car to the dealership who said their diagnostics showed a water-pump failure. I wasn't getting any high temps before they told me this. They told me they replaced the water-pump under CPO, which otherwise would've cost me approximately $1,500.00. I'm grateful, as I had about 150 miles to go before my warranty expired.

Now, it seems like I'm getting high oil-temps. When I check the coolant tank, it looks really low. I gotta take my ride back to dealership to diagnose. If they did add coolant when they replaced the water-pump, I may have a leak because the coolant in the tank appears to be much too low.

I have 102k miles on my e90 335i.

Bavarian Black · 04-15-2013, 10:19 AM

Mine shat all over me so bad the coolant gadget bubbled so badly it made me a fresh brew of cappachino lol; heat- oil mix due to the engine trying its best to cool down.my car has 110k on it...and the mechanic said the original water pump
Was replaced by an aftermarket one since I've only had my 08 car for two months and when they import cars to Lebanon you can always bet either the is seller or the Beirut port switches shit around- for example- no
6 cd player in my coupe ass...hmm wonder where that went. Certainly at the Beirut port or the importer.

1300 USD later BMW Lebanon got me a new EWP with thermo, plus a change of the heater gasget n filter and hood. But one plus about Lebanon is our labour costs...I may have paid 1300 $ but labor 100$ and that's for two days work. This includeded, coolant flush to remove the oil and gummy white crap from
Over boiling, full coolant clean and bleed, new EWP 12 min bleed start up, installation of the rest of the parts all the way to the under hood.

I can pick up my car tomorow with full garentee by bmwc Indy mechanic if I realise any more oil or coolant leaks.

I don't know why but indynmechanics here are SO experienced bc they have seen it all!

I haven't checked up on my car yet, but I asked him to keep the weird aftermarket AWP on do I can take pics. As I said in certain threads, our cars are beautifully made, but have they thought of the future or just want us to keep their profit and loss sheet up by buying replacements at only 100k.my existing 328is 1997 was perfect, never needed anything but coolant and petrol and oil for 9 years! I guees my car is very complicated and the twin turbo N54 block is very sensitive. But who cares when it drives like a beauty and kills M3's!!! (tuned of course). This car didn't win 5 awards for nothing....

marv85 · 04-15-2013, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Bavarian Black

Mine shat all over me so bad the coolant gadget bubbled so badly it made me a fresh brew of cappachino lol; heat- oil mix due to the engine trying its best to cool down.my car has 110k on it...and the mechanic said the original water pump
Was replaced by an aftermarket one since I've only had my 08 car for two months and when they import cars to Lebanon you can always bet either the is seller or the Beirut port switches shit around- for example- no
6 cd player in my coupe ass...hmm wonder where that went. Certainly at the Beirut port or the importer.

1300 USD later BMW Lebanon got me a new EWP with thermo, plus a change of the heater gasget n filter and hood. But one plus about Lebanon is our labour costs...I may have paid 1300 $ but labor 100$ and that's for two days work. This includeded, coolant flush to remove the oil and gummy white crap from
Over boiling, full coolant clean and bleed, new EWP 12 min bleed start up, installation of the rest of the parts all the way to the under hood.

I can pick up my car tomorow with full garentee by bmwc Indy mechanic if I realise any more oil or coolant leaks.

I don't know why but indynmechanics here are SO experienced bc they have seen it all!

I haven't checked up on my car yet, but I asked him to keep the weird aftermarket AWP on do I can take pics. As I said in certain threads, our cars are beautifully made, but have they thought of the future or just want us to keep their profit and loss sheet up by buying replacements at only 100k.my existing 328is 1997 was perfect, never needed anything but coolant and petrol and oil for 9 years! I guees my car is very complicated and the twin turbo N54 block is very sensitive. But who cares when it drives like a beauty and kills M3's!!! (tuned of course). This car didn't win 5 awards for nothing....

God I miss the indys in Lebanon, and the low labor rates! The downside is when you want to buy performance parts you have to ship from the US and it becomes very expensive

Jimrobbington · 04-15-2013, 03:28 PM

This is the only thing worrying me about my possible 335xi purchase in the future. Is there a diy on this for a manual trans? Sounds like its not that hard, but you can get raped for it at the dealer. Is there an aftermarket water pump option? Or are you stuck with oem and hoping it doesn't fail for another 10-70k miles.

Bavarian Black · 04-16-2013, 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by marv85

God I miss the indys in Lebanon, and the low labor rates! The downside is when you want to buy performance parts you have to ship from the US and it becomes very expensive

Excactly habibi! But there is also another downside- you never get a garentee even after the job and bf u know it a fight starts out! Lol

Bavarian Black · 04-16-2013, 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimrobbington

This is the only thing worrying me about my possible 335xi purchase in the future. Is there a diy on this for a manual trans? Sounds like its not that hard, but you can get raped for it at the dealer. Is there an aftermarket water pump option? Or are you stuck with oem and hoping it doesn't fail for another 10-70k miles.

http://www.turnermotorsport.com/imag...at_package.jpg

This is the one you need and I got the entire package. With this package and if installed precisely you will get 80-100k out of the pump. DON'T go for an aftermarket EWP...as its an essential part of our engines.

BB

335xi Kevo · 04-16-2013, 08:43 AM

Mine went out a month ago at 85k. CPO covered it. On test drive 02 sensors went bad, FRM, and a transfer case seal.

Jimrobbington · 04-16-2013, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Bavarian Black

http://www.turnermotorsport.com/imag...at_package.jpg

This is the one you need and I got the entire package. With this package and if installed precisely you will get 80-100k out of the pump. DON'T go for an aftermarket EWP...as its an essential part of our engines.

BB

Nice, thanks for the link. Are there any manual trans diys for this?

Bavarian Black · 04-16-2013, 12:23 PM

Guys I just got my car back

)))

Temp is a beauty after 45 mins of super aggressive driving, in stayed at 210 f!!!! It always went upto 240. No leaks, no oil leaks after the new transmission cooler change and very smooth responsiveness. Also, my dial used to go up and down between 1.1-1.3 revs on idle bf, now it's dead on 1.1.

I have put a white mat under my car to see if there are any leaks tomorrow and also will
Check the coolant level.

I also preformed the 12 min EWP procedure via the OBD2 as its new and all is well. Everything has been flushed from the radiator, no more white gung contamination and happy until now. Let's see tomorrow of any leaks from below or from coolant chamber.

By the way, I never knew continental made oem BMW EWP...unless its a diff company that the tire company. But it's stamped with BMW all over.

Even the cars response is better while fillipin my SSG's. If I encounter any issues with the ome kit I will be sure to update

Thanks,

BB

marv85 · 04-16-2013, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Bavarian Black

Excactly habibi! But there is also another downside- you never get a garentee even after the job and bf u know it a fight starts out! Lol

it happened to me a couple of times lol

i eventually settled on one shop and became friends with the owner. He is a cool guy and ever since I've had no issues.

Bavarian Black · 04-16-2013, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimrobbington

Nice, thanks for the link. Are there any manual trans diys for this?

Apologies just saw your post and didn't refresh my iPhone. TBH this question is for the big boys to answer. Considering we ALL have a EWP and thermo...., I would assume its the same
Job. But I belive your looking for a DIY or you tube video. Well there's a lovely DIY thread on here for the change regardless of the tranny. Lete try and find it and get back to you....

Jimrobbington · 04-16-2013, 12:42 PM

I saw a diy for an auto trans, but they almost inferred that it might be different than manual?

Bavarian Black · 04-16-2013, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimrobbington

I saw a diy for an auto trans, but they almost inferred that it might be different than manual?

Search the forum and u will find it. Regarding the diff btw stepT and Manual, I'll leave that question to the colonels 😜

Koreyy · 04-18-2013, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by *****ed4v

My pump just went last week also, 58k miles 08 335xi. Had the dealer do the pump-injectors-02 sensor. Thank god was cpo and warrenty untill 100k

just curiosity, mine hasnt failed yet and its FBO, do you possibly know if they would avoid warranty for my water pump? mines also CPO until 100k

Bavarian Black · 04-18-2013, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Koreyy

just curiosity, mine hasnt failed yet and its FBO, do you possibly know if they would avoid warranty for my water pump? mines also CPO until 100k

We'll depends what FBO mods you've done. A DCI AF should be fine...anything else that throws codes and you may have to revise what you have ;ex-⛽meth, ♨piggybacks apart from Turbo tuner as I've read many posts that the company worked with BMW to make it warranty unvoided. I'm sure if you list what you have as I'm using my iPhone other members can list what is or isn't going to be an issue. Also, it depends on your relationship with the shop owner...

BB

F3thirty5 · 04-30-2013, 10:58 AM

Add me to the list. Driving on the Parkway. Got the yellow light, got the red light warning stuck on the road. Had to have it flatbedded to the dealership. Having the waterpump and thermo replaced as we speak. $1500!! I got 59,000K on the car. Seems like 60K is the magic number for these to crap out. Totally sucks. I am out of warranty. $hit out of luck I guess. Thanks BMW!

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mithund Registered 0 Rep 4 Posts Drives: BMW 640i GT Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Seattle, WA iTrader: (0)	Add me to the list guys! Mine went out a couple days ago, $1300+taxes later, I have a new Thermostat and a Waterpump. I called a local shop and they told me it's a very common occurrence in the E90s, how is there no recall on this? That's crazy!! Never getting another BMW again! So disappointed with their quality.
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nc1mike New Member 2 Rep 23 Posts Drives: Red e90 335i Sport Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Granite Bay, CA. iTrader: (0)	water pump thermostat r/r My 03/07 build 335i lasted 95,500 miles and threw no codes. Fan just went super high speed and I could here the pump croaking like a small frog. $600.00 and a DIY 5hrs later I'm back on road.
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nsx_modified Private 2 Rep 77 Posts Drives: 2008 335i Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Toronto iTrader: (2)	mine just went 2 days ago. 08' 335i auto, 77k km Same thing, yellow light, then 10 seconds later red light telling me to pull over. I drove 1km to place where I was grabbing lunch and called a flat bed in meantime. Had it towed to my dealer. Apparently i bought this used and only part of it is covered under CPO. They are replacing my water pump under warranty but Im gonna hafta pay for the thermostat and labor. Quoted me $550, but said will prob be cheaper once they figure everything else that gets warrantied. (usually quotes the highest so customer doesn't get disappointed).
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RevALot Enlisted Member 10 Rep 39 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: USA iTrader: (0)	Add me to the list About a 1.5 months ago, I took my car to the dealership who said their diagnostics showed a water-pump failure. I wasn't getting any high temps before they told me this. They told me they replaced the water-pump under CPO, which otherwise would've cost me approximately $1,500.00. I'm grateful, as I had about 150 miles to go before my warranty expired. Now, it seems like I'm getting high oil-temps. When I check the coolant tank, it looks really low. I gotta take my ride back to dealership to diagnose. If they did add coolant when they replaced the water-pump, I may have a leak because the coolant in the tank appears to be much too low. I have 102k miles on my e90 335i.
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Bavarian Black Second Lieutenant 8 Rep 297 Posts Drives: 08 335i MS Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: LB iTrader: (0)	Mine shat all over me so bad the coolant gadget bubbled so badly it made me a fresh brew of cappachino lol; heat- oil mix due to the engine trying its best to cool down.my car has 110k on it...and the mechanic said the original water pump Was replaced by an aftermarket one since I've only had my 08 car for two months and when they import cars to Lebanon you can always bet either the is seller or the Beirut port switches shit around- for example- no 6 cd player in my coupe ass...hmm wonder where that went. Certainly at the Beirut port or the importer. 1300 USD later BMW Lebanon got me a new EWP with thermo, plus a change of the heater gasget n filter and hood. But one plus about Lebanon is our labour costs...I may have paid 1300 $ but labor 100$ and that's for two days work. This includeded, coolant flush to remove the oil and gummy white crap from Over boiling, full coolant clean and bleed, new EWP 12 min bleed start up, installation of the rest of the parts all the way to the under hood. I can pick up my car tomorow with full garentee by bmwc Indy mechanic if I realise any more oil or coolant leaks. I don't know why but indynmechanics here are SO experienced bc they have seen it all! I haven't checked up on my car yet, but I asked him to keep the weird aftermarket AWP on do I can take pics. As I said in certain threads, our cars are beautifully made, but have they thought of the future or just want us to keep their profit and loss sheet up by buying replacements at only 100k.my existing 328is 1997 was perfect, never needed anything but coolant and petrol and oil for 9 years! I guees my car is very complicated and the twin turbo N54 block is very sensitive. But who cares when it drives like a beauty and kills M3's!!! (tuned of course). This car didn't win 5 awards for nothing.... __________________ 08 335i MSPORT & PR PKG/aFe St2 DCI/AA BOV kit +DP/SprintBooster Stage 2/Avant Garde 19 rims/ HNK V12 Pro Tires/BMS Wheel Spacers/ E92 M F n B kit incl blk kidney grills and sensors/Afe mach Exhaust. M3 skirts, DNA map 3
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Jimrobbington New Member 0 Rep 11 Posts Drives: 2005.5 Audi A4 2.0t Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Parker, CO iTrader: (0)	This is the only thing worrying me about my possible 335xi purchase in the future. Is there a diy on this for a manual trans? Sounds like its not that hard, but you can get raped for it at the dealer. Is there an aftermarket water pump option? Or are you stuck with oem and hoping it doesn't fail for another 10-70k miles.
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335xi Kevo Lieutenant 26 Rep 497 Posts Drives: 2008 335xi Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: CT iTrader: (3)	Mine went out a month ago at 85k. CPO covered it. On test drive 02 sensors went bad, FRM, and a transfer case seal. __________________ 08' 335xi 6MT Space Metallic Grey Premium, Nav, Cold weather, Sport Procede 2.5, DCI, Forge DV, PWM, Scoops, KW V1, ETS 5" FMIC, VRSF Downpipes, M3 Skirts
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Bavarian Black Second Lieutenant 8 Rep 297 Posts Drives: 08 335i MS Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: LB iTrader: (0)	Guys I just got my car back ))) Temp is a beauty after 45 mins of super aggressive driving, in stayed at 210 f!!!! It always went upto 240. No leaks, no oil leaks after the new transmission cooler change and very smooth responsiveness. Also, my dial used to go up and down between 1.1-1.3 revs on idle bf, now it's dead on 1.1. I have put a white mat under my car to see if there are any leaks tomorrow and also will Check the coolant level. I also preformed the 12 min EWP procedure via the OBD2 as its new and all is well. Everything has been flushed from the radiator, no more white gung contamination and happy until now. Let's see tomorrow of any leaks from below or from coolant chamber. By the way, I never knew continental made oem BMW EWP...unless its a diff company that the tire company. But it's stamped with BMW all over. Even the cars response is better while fillipin my SSG's. If I encounter any issues with the ome kit I will be sure to update Thanks, BB __________________ 08 335i MSPORT & PR PKG/aFe St2 DCI/AA BOV kit +DP/SprintBooster Stage 2/Avant Garde 19 rims/ HNK V12 Pro Tires/BMS Wheel Spacers/ E92 M F n B kit incl blk kidney grills and sensors/Afe mach Exhaust. M3 skirts, DNA map 3
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Jimrobbington New Member 0 Rep 11 Posts Drives: 2005.5 Audi A4 2.0t Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Parker, CO iTrader: (0)	I saw a diy for an auto trans, but they almost inferred that it might be different than manual?
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F3thirty5 Private First Class 9 Rep 193 Posts Drives: 08 335 XI Coupe Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Long Island New York iTrader: (9)	Mine Too!! $@#! Add me to the list. Driving on the Parkway. Got the yellow light, got the red light warning stuck on the road. Had to have it flatbedded to the dealership. Having the waterpump and thermo replaced as we speak. $1500!! I got 59,000K on the car. Seems like 60K is the magic number for these to crap out. Totally sucks. I am out of warranty. $hit out of luck I guess. Thanks BMW!
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