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06-24-2008, 12:11 AM | #1 |
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Dinan II Reflash Dyno
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Here are all of my mods, Dinan II Rev 2, Dinan Front/Rear Sway Bars, Dinan Exhaust, KW V2. The Dynos, CDV Delete Mod and the KW V2 were done at PandL Motorsports in Franklin Park, IL and they did great job! BTW, if any of you were thinking about getting the KW V2's, just get it, it's absolutely amazing! Last edited by mjoon161; 06-24-2008 at 09:26 AM.. Reason: Make a comment on the suspension |
06-24-2008, 12:17 AM | #2 |
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Pretty decent numbers. Im getting my Stage 1 tomorrow!!
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06-24-2008, 07:37 AM | #3 | |
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Last, what progman did you have going in, and do you notice a difference in any sense of turbo lag from before and after the flash? |
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06-24-2008, 08:28 AM | #4 |
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06-24-2008, 09:15 AM | #5 | |
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06-24-2008, 09:17 AM | #6 |
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I wouldn't expect you to watch and log your own boost...I figured the dyno might have had the hookup to log it.
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06-24-2008, 11:46 AM | #7 |
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are those numbers on par w/ what they are supposed to be?
that would put the crank HP around 355-360 right?
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06-24-2008, 12:13 PM | #8 | |
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If I had Dinan's tune I would want to run a boost gauge to make sure I got the stage I paid for. FWIW they also showed 392 Crank HP/350 WHP with their catback (including xpipe). I would hope most customers are seeing 330-340 whp with stage 2 and an otherwise stock car. |
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06-24-2008, 12:31 PM | #9 | |
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for comparison, I ran 347whp I believe on just Procede V2 at 12.5psi and the Helix intercooler. stock tune was 286whpw the intercooler. I believe 12.5psi is lower than the Dinan II tune? Scott, I thought the Dinan II tune was around 13psi? It just seems a bit low to me.
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06-24-2008, 12:49 PM | #10 |
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The PSI for the Dinan stage 2 tune is 13.2 PSI...
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06-24-2008, 12:59 PM | #11 |
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Two things I don't understand:
1) How that tune can be rated for 385bhp 2) How it makes such little power for the boost pressure it is purported to run. Has anyone ever verified boost pressure with a boost gauge? Or shown Dinan or any of their reps a dyno sheet and asked where the missing 25whp is? I think it may be an issue of purposes restricting horsepower in Stg 1 and 2 so they can give an appreciable bump in power with $tg 3. But even then, the bhp claims are fraudulent. Now I understand that many Dinan customers aren't all about dyno numbers and quarter-mile performance. And that's okay. But when you pay a couple to a few thousand dollars for a claimed power output, shouldn't you get it? Or something close to it at least? Shiv |
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06-24-2008, 01:02 PM | #12 | |
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Just want to make sure people are getting what they pay for.
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06-24-2008, 01:10 PM | #13 | |
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312whp seems very low for 13psi especially with Dinan's coveted exhaust. Maybe that dyno reads very low. |
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06-24-2008, 01:13 PM | #14 | |
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However, this is not the 1st recent Dinan dyno that looked low.
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I have been questioning my dyno results as well. On the original stage II flash I dynoed 320rwhp and 379rwtq on 91 Octane. I redynoed on the same dyno different day with the Stage II rev 2 and dynoed 309rwhp and 382rwtq on 91 Octane. Keep in mind my car is completley stock except for the tune. The second dyno the temp was significantly hotter than the first dyno. Temperature aside, although the torque is great the HP does not seem to be what is advertised. Unfortunatley I do not have a baseline dyno of my car and this is why I have not made a stink of it. I should be getting my boost gauge this week but it is a mechanical gauge and not a digital so I will have to have someone record it so I can try and log my peak boost. I am curious to see more dynos of the Stage II rev 2 for more comparisons.
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06-24-2008, 01:50 PM | #20 | |
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I don't see anyone who has the Stage II Dinan Flash claiming they've been duped or ripped off, either. I suppose we should just take your completely unbiased opinion as fact, though, eh? |
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06-24-2008, 02:16 PM | #21 |
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There is one thing that is definatley shady about Dinans advertising that I noticed from the time the original flash came out compared to when the revision was released. If you look at the original press release from Dinan it states that the 384fwhp and 421fwtq was done on a completly stock car, NO EXHAUST. If you look at figure 1 in the press release it states "Figure 1. Dyno results for a stock 335i vs. Dinan 335i (software tuning only)". Now the claims in figure 2 state you get 392fwhp and 429fwtq with free flow exhaust. The press release specifically states "Figure 2. Dyno results for a stock 335i versus the Dinan 335i (software, x pipe and exhaust)".
Now lets look at what Dinan is now advertising on thier website for the Stage II rev 2 flash. The description reads "The results of Dinan’s tuning are nothing short of breathtaking, with the added boost and related recalibration along with the Dinan Free Flow Exhaust producing maximum output of 384 horsepower at 5700 rpm and 421 lb-ft torque at 4300 rpm*. " So now you mean to tell me when I purchased my original flash we were all under the impression that I would get the advertised horsepower without an exhaust. Since the revision has been released it now specifically states that the exhaust is needed to achieve the advertised HP. Now I am no lawyer but that is a little misleading if you ask me. Don't get me wrong, I like my Dinan tune but that seems a little shady to me.
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06-24-2008, 02:30 PM | #22 |
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Yes, I know. But....when you hit max HP the boost has already tapered off to 11.3 PSI. Not my numbers, Dinans publication. See page 3 of the PDF.
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