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      01-10-2011, 01:55 AM   #463
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+1 for the 06/07 euro spec~~~~

looks like u missed it there is no eta at the moment (if u talka about euro models)
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. I'd like to hear from Cobb how far off n55 support truthfully is ??? Are we talking 6 months ?, or is it more like a year plus ?? It would be nice to get an ETA...
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looks like u missed it there is no eta at the moment (if u talka about euro models)
I guess a lot of us euro folks are not asking for a fixed release date, but an ETA with a lot of focus on the E in ETA. That might be 4 months or 12 months.
Just saying nothing doesn't help.
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      01-10-2011, 07:42 AM   #468
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I guess a lot of us euro folks are not asking for a fixed release date, but an ETA with a lot of focus on the E in ETA. That might be 4 months or 12 months.
Just saying nothing doesn't help.
COBB hasn't said much about the N55 availability either--there was a post by one of their guys that went through the thought process...

Basically, if I recall correctly, he mentioned that they don't want to say X months for a certain product to be ready, and then have to short change the product's capabilities in order to hit that date.

But ballpark figures are always nice, I have to agree.
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COBB hasn't said much about the N55 availability either--there was a post by one of their guys that went through the thought process...

Basically, if I recall correctly, he mentioned that they don't want to say X months for a certain product to be ready, and then have to short change the product's capabilities in order to hit that date.

But ballpark figures are always nice, I have to agree.
It's the same when my clients want a ballpark figure. As long as everyone understand that we´re speaking the ballpark language I give estimates.
It´s an estimate and they can´t hold me responsible for it, they just want an idea before even considering ideas. Later on, when all the data is on the table, there will be adjustments, and everyone understands that.

It might be the same for some people on here. If Cobb say they probably won´t support plattform X or Y in the coming 5 years (yeah, grossly exagerated I Know) then at least I would know.

The same questions was raised for Subaru when Cobb started supporting the USDM crowd, that might be why I´m pretty persistent on this question.
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It's the same when my clients want a ballpark figure. As long as everyone understand that we´re speaking the ballpark language I give estimates.
It´s an estimate and they can´t hold me responsible for it, they just want an idea before even considering ideas. Later on, when all the data is on the table, there will be adjustments, and everyone understands that.

It might be the same for some people on here. If Cobb say they probably won´t support plattform X or Y in the coming 5 years (yeah, grossly exagerated I Know) then at least I would know.

The same questions was raised for Subaru when Cobb started supporting the USDM crowd, that might be why I´m pretty persistent on this question.
I hear ya...it would definitely be nice....
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Cobb - How does the flash tune react to putting in race gas? Would it affect hp or boost pressure at all if the flash detects 100 octane gas vs. 93 if you are using the 93 stage 1 OTS map?
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I'm curious about something. The Procede has a neat feature which limits boost while the engine is cold. This is especially valid for ridiculous locations like Canada where "cold" means -20 centigrade.

How does the COBB tune deal with this, if at all?
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It's the same when my clients want a ballpark figure. As long as everyone understand that we´re speaking the ballpark language I give estimates.
It´s an estimate and they can´t hold me responsible for it, they just want an idea before even considering ideas. Later on, when all the data is on the table, there will be adjustments, and everyone understands that.

It might be the same for some people on here. If Cobb say they probably won´t support plattform X or Y in the coming 5 years (yeah, grossly exagerated I Know) then at least I would know.

The same questions was raised for Subaru when Cobb started supporting the USDM crowd, that might be why I´m pretty persistent on this question.
I agree as well... I'm really interested in this for the X5/535 N55 owners... Don't get me wrong, I like the JB3 Tune I have, and I loved the Procede when I had it on my 335xi, but realistically, this tune represents an easier way to get the same, and if not more power from the same platform.

Pure speculation: I think for the 135/335 N55 owners, your probably looking at a 3-6 month wait time. It's the 535/X5's that are going to have the extended wait time. Probably 6-9 months, but if anyone with a 535/X5 can get to a COBB tuning facility and provide them a copy of their ECU's image/rom, it would definately decrease that timeframe. I believe the issue with the 535/X5's is the fact that we are using 8 speed tranny's vs everyone else's 6/7 speeds.

At any rate I look forward to the end product and wish Cobb the best of luck... Now someone with a 535/X5 near COBB's tuning facilities needs to get off their lazy butt and do what's necessary...
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Cobb - How does the flash tune react to putting in race gas? Would it affect hp or boost pressure at all if the flash detects 100 octane gas vs. 93 if you are using the 93 stage 1 OTS map?
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I'm curious about something. The Procede has a neat feature which limits boost while the engine is cold. This is especially valid for ridiculous locations like Canada where "cold" means -20 centigrade.

How does the COBB tune deal with this, if at all?
Good questions.
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I'm not really looking to sling mud, so i will choose to not comment.
Interesting.
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I guess a lot of us euro folks are not asking for a fixed release date, but an ETA with a lot of focus on the E in ETA. That might be 4 months or 12 months.

Just saying nothing doesn't help.
They've spoken on this a lot. THey simply don't know, and have a lot of development to do, and they don't want to speculate and be wrong, just for the sake of speculation.
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I'm curious about something. The Procede has a neat feature which limits boost while the engine is cold. This is especially valid for ridiculous locations like Canada where "cold" means -20 centigrade.

How does the COBB tune deal with this, if at all?
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so can anyone tell me what is different from the 07 and 08 ecu?
I think the DME is perhaps different.
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I'm curious about something. The Procede has a neat feature which limits boost while the engine is cold. This is especially valid for ridiculous locations like Canada where "cold" means -20 centigrade.

How does the COBB tune deal with this, if at all?
Well we could just look at the temp gauge and not go WOT until the engine temps are up. While some of these add-on features are neat, relying on yourself and common sense can also be used.
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Well we could just look at the temp gauge and not go WOT until the engine temps are up. While some of these add-on features are neat, relying on yourself and common sense can also be used.
lol

Factory boost is more than enough to damage the engine if you push it/rev high when the oil is still cold.
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Well we could just look at the temp gauge and not go WOT until the engine temps are up. While some of these add-on features are neat, relying on yourself and common sense can also be used.
Well, in that case, we could just not worry about a tune at all and just go downhill all the time.

The problem with solely relying on oil temperature is that ambient temperature plays a role - if you're in -20 degree weather, your oil temp will probably stay relatively low forever - whereas if you are in +30 degree heat, your oil temp is up instantly, even though the engine isn't quite warmed up yet. The Procede takes a while to fully kick in in both cases, so I assume there is good reasoning behind that.

That and also we tend to have lead feet more often than not.
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I hear what you're saying, i'm just not sure adding a bunch of logic into the stock ecu is possible. With a piggyback, it's easy to add that logic, but with reflashes, I think it's just remapping - maps, not changing core logic. Again, I am not sure, but if all else fails, we can just use our brain and not push things until the engine is ready.
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is it that difficult to short shift before you reach proper oil operating temperature? if it is, perhaps you should give back your license and stick to bicycles
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