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12-31-2017, 10:13 PM | #1 |
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Do you 328 owners feel like you have been smoked by some lesser cars ?
How fast would you rate your e90 328 are you happy with the power it has. I feel it does have its moments when it could use more power, but overall not that bad. On the highway it is better. These cars have to be pushed hard to get the top end torque and horsepower |
01-01-2018, 12:00 AM | #2 |
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I've had 2 335s, and have driven/been driven in a friend's e91 328i. I always felt that the 328i was plenty quick, it rips to 100 in a real hurry. The 328i was a manual, so that helps some. The 328i also sounds worlds better than the 335i.
I like fast cars, but I've realized that someone will always have a faster car. Racing or 100+ is mandatory arrest in my state, so there's a limit to how much power you can use. I just want fun and reliable performance at this point. I just ended up with 335s because I got silly good deals on both of them. I do think a 2006 330i manual would be great fun though. |
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01-01-2018, 12:09 AM | #3 | |
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Yes you are right 328 feels quick enough. Maybe manual would have been better |
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01-01-2018, 12:40 AM | #4 |
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I have a 2011 328i E91. Love the car, especially since you don’t see many. My main complaint was the throttle lag. I remedied that with a Sprint booster. Then added a full AA cat back exhaust, 3SIM, KnN drop in/Charcoal Delete/Silicone intake tube, and AA tune. I must say she is pretty darn qwik now, and much more fun to drive. With 19” rims and PSS tires, Eibach Pro kit, 335 brakes and M3 sways/bushings/control arms she is a pretty well rounded package. Not to shabby for a wagon!
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01-01-2018, 10:13 AM | #5 |
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If you are starting with a 328 manual you can really do some things on the cheap to make it quicker, probably as quick as a stock 335. I would say mine is close to 300hp at the block and it only weighs 3100lbs. Here’s what I did with my 328 manual. I’ve timed it with the pro race Ap and done 0-60 in 5.2 and 1/4 mile times of mid 13’s and those were not perfect launches.
530i 3 stage intake $300 AA Headers $900 MILVs $300 BPC Tune $675 BPC Tune Upgrade for MILV’s and Headers $100 328i Automatic 3.73 Rear Differential $225 AFE Ram Scoops $100 K&N Filter $50 Rev Silicone Intake Tube $40 Total = $2690 This is +70hp (and approx +60tq) for about $38/hp which is not a bad deal for reliable N/A power. I actually test drove a E92 M3 was thinking about trading up and didn’t feel enough difference in the power to feel the added $15k price and potential issues (rod bearings and throttle actuators) was worth it over the car I have. My car has been dead reliable and no issues. I’ll probably get flamed for this but on my test drive I really didn’t notice much difference in the power between them, both are manual transmission cars. Last edited by Biginboca; 01-01-2018 at 10:27 AM.. |
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01-01-2018, 10:23 AM | #7 |
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A mustang can be faster than a 335. So a "lesser" car smokes it. I mean if you're going to beat yourself up about losing to a faster car that's lesser than yours than just go buy an American muscle car so you can finally beat those ricers. I'm not trying to be a dick I just don't get why people buy the lowest powered e90, and complain that it isn't fast.
You can't make them fast that's the reality. |
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01-01-2018, 10:26 AM | #8 | |
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These N52's like higher RPMs and the car really doesn't come alive until you're over 4k RPM. Today's Camry's can put egg on one's face. But then again, the 328 wasn't really built to be a "fast" car. They are basically detuned. If you wanted a faster car you had to buy a 335 ... it was a pretty effective marketing ploy. That's why 330 conversions are so popular ... they basically make the car perform how you'd expect a stock 328 to perform in the first place. Some people will put in a Burger tuning Powerbox which helps with the throttle lag, but doesn't necessarily make the car any faster, just quicker off the start. It's a pretty affordable mod as performance mods for the 328 goes. Others go with the 330 conversion (330/530 3IM and a 330 tune) for those 328's with the N51 engines (which already have a 3IM) people just go with a tune. These tunes really help the car become what you should've had in the first place. If you have a manual transmission ... it's even better. But this conversion is a lot more expensive ... 3 - 5 times the price of a PBX ... depending on the parts and tune, plus whether or not you DIY. I went the 330 route ... and 6 months later still feel it was money well spent even with the premium price. Last edited by N52UNED; 01-01-2018 at 11:08 AM.. |
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01-01-2018, 10:33 AM | #11 |
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328 is a great car....not a rocket ship by any mean but good enough IMO.
A few upgrades really improves the experience.....just the PE makes this car 50% more fun to drive. |
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01-01-2018, 10:39 AM | #12 |
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Do you drag race your car at every light?
A stock 330i 6mt is fast enough to reach 'go to jail' speeds in a hurry. |
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01-01-2018, 10:42 AM | #13 |
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+1 lol
I think every state if not most it's pretty much results an automatic suspension and getting arrested for excessive speeding. Power is great, I don't think anyone will disagree with that, everyone wants to be able to floor it and be able get up to 100+ but realistically, when are you ever gonna go over 100+ or race someone on the street. I own a e90 328i 6SPD, and I love the power, although at times I do wish I had gotten the 335 but couldn't find the specific one I wanted. But the 328i has a good amount of power for its years, I've only gotten it past 120 twice. Don't forget that most cars now a days are coming out stock with over 200+hp. |
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Agreed ... to a point. The N52 e90's can be made to be fast, but the price is so expensive it's cost prohibitive for most ... And you'll still be slower than a lightly modified 335 with a JB4, so you're better off buying a 335 in the first place. That's the beauty about a 335 ... big HP gains are relatively cheap, especially when compared to a 328 or 330. Frankly, when you think of it ... there's alway going to be a faster car out there... even if you have 6-figure budget. |
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Test numbers are made by professional drivers expert at attaining the best numbers from a car with no concern of damaging it. Us mortal drivers are probably seconds behind the 0 - 60 times and almost minutes behind in lap times. To me "fast" is relative as much as buying loudspeakers (buy what sounds best to you) IMO. The N52 is plenty fast for street applications to provide a spirited driving experience and able to get your license donated back to the State. It's also relative to the era which you grew up in. I started driving after the Arab oil embargos of 1973 and 1976, which along with EPA emission regulations killed off the big engine high horsepower cars of the late 1960's (which are mostly slower than a E90 325i now anyway) and left small and slow 4 cylinder foreign cars and slow 4 cylinder and V6 American cars for us to drive. If memory serves, all were no better than 9 or 10 seconds 0 - 60. It looks like the Electrics in the future will be damned quick cars once they become mainstream and manufacturers add launch modes to them, making a 2018 335i slow in comparison. Then we'll get autonomous cars and fast will be what the Government wants it to be.
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A manual transmission can be set to "comfort", "sport", and "track" modes simply by the technique and speed at which you shift it; it doesn't need "modes", modes are for manumatics that try to behave like a real 3-pedal manual transmission. If you can money-shift it, it's a manual transmission. "Yeah, but NO ONE puts an automatic trans shift knob on a manual transmission."
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A manual transmission can be set to "comfort", "sport", and "track" modes simply by the technique and speed at which you shift it; it doesn't need "modes", modes are for manumatics that try to behave like a real 3-pedal manual transmission. If you can money-shift it, it's a manual transmission. "Yeah, but NO ONE puts an automatic trans shift knob on a manual transmission."
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A manual transmission can be set to "comfort", "sport", and "track" modes simply by the technique and speed at which you shift it; it doesn't need "modes", modes are for manumatics that try to behave like a real 3-pedal manual transmission. If you can money-shift it, it's a manual transmission. "Yeah, but NO ONE puts an automatic trans shift knob on a manual transmission."
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01-01-2018, 12:39 PM | #21 |
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The e90 328i is a dependable very well balanced car. I would not say that it is a high performance car but it is a performance car. My wife's M Sport 328i tops out at 155mph in the stock form and is very stable doing it. It is a very nice autobahn cruiser. It is not the fastest out there by far but it does well to hold it's own.
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