The "DEViL" as my "savior"?

mike sevel · 07-04-2018, 01:24 PM

08 E93 60k miles. Two recalls were completed (PCV and heater wiring). While on the rack, tech sez my oil pan gasket is leaking and it can be replaced for only $1,275.00!!!!! Oy vey!
So I research oil sealer additives and came across BLUE DEVIL OIL STOP LEAK . If you watch the DIY and read glowing customer reviews, it should be a no brainer to correct the leak? Claims it is effective with no harm to the engine.
I am not sure if the gasket is cork, composite or rubber. Wadda ya tink bloggers, should I take a chance?
Thanx y'all.
Mikey

e90yyc · 07-04-2018, 01:30 PM

Don't do it.

adam_c · 07-04-2018, 01:40 PM

I used it in a Cobalt where the rear main seal was leaking and it fixed it, unsure about your application though

Efthreeoh · 07-04-2018, 02:03 PM

So the chemical is smart enough to travel through the entire internal engine oiling system and then drip off the windage plate onto the lower block ledge where the pan leaks (right side near the bell housing) THEN coagulate and form a seal?

Good luck with that....

louietheking · 07-04-2018, 03:20 PM

i wouldn't take that risk, personally, I have a 2008 328xi and the dealership the previous owner took it to told him that the oil pan was leaking. I have owned the car for a few weeks now and have not had to top off the oil, I just keep checking it. If it is in fact leaking, the oil pan wouldn't leak into anything that would cause a major issue, I would just ensure to keep checking the oil level. $1275 would buy you 127 quarts of quality oil, it doesn't make any sense to do this repair unless it is leaking really bad.

I am interested to hear other people's input on this as well though.

e90yyc · 07-04-2018, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by louietheking

i wouldn't take that risk, personally, I have a 2008 328xi and the dealership the previous owner took it to told him that the oil pan was leaking. I have owned the car for a few weeks now and have not had to top off the oil, I just keep checking it. If it is in fact leaking, the oil pan wouldn't leak into anything that would cause a major issue, I would just ensure to keep checking the oil level. $1275 would buy you 127 quarts of quality oil, it doesn't make any sense to do this repair unless it is leaking really bad.

I am interested to hear other people's input on this as well though.

I think you're correct in your approach. Due to the cost of fixing the leak, and the fact that it generally leaks very slowly, I'd choose to just top it off as needed and not worry.

You could drive this car forever with a leaking oil pan gasket. PO of my car had it done, but I certainly wouldn't have...

hassmaschine · 07-04-2018, 06:36 PM

Just leave it; unless its leaking like the BP Deep Horizon, there's no way its worth the trouble.

Good grief - 2 drips of oil on the belly pan isn't going to hurt a damn thing. I'm 100% sure mine "leaks" but given I only use 1/2 quart in 10,000 miles - I'm not exactly sweating it.

e90yyc · 07-04-2018, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by hassmaschine

Just leave it; unless its leaking like the BP Deep Horizon, there's no way its worth the trouble.

Good grief - 2 drips of oil on the belly pan isn't going to hurt a damn thing. I'm 100% sure mine "leaks" but given I only use 1/2 quart in 10,000 miles - I'm not exactly sweating it.

Not sure if that pun was intentional, but if so, very slick oil humour there sir

CTinline-six · 07-04-2018, 11:30 PM

Don't use stop leak of any kind. A friend of mine bought a Chevy truck that someone put stop leak in the cooling system. We replaced the whole cooling system, flushed the block several times and it was still in there. He ended up selling the truck.

NYBulldog · 07-05-2018, 07:15 AM

DO NOT do it. For your own sake.

Welcome to NBA Jam · 07-05-2018, 08:39 AM

It's advisable to avoid mechanic-in-a-bottle additives unless your car is extremely cheap to begin with.

mecheng77 · 07-05-2018, 12:30 PM

The only time when these type of oil additives make sense is when the cost of repair or value of car is cost prohibitive. For example, I had a Volvo T5 which had a slight leak in the valve guides. I used ATP-205 and it completely cured it, I was amazed

It does not work by clogging ports as some as state above, it has plasticizers which reguivinate the seals. The additives you should never use are the cooling ones that fix leaks, those will cause damage.

Considering wepage in the pan is normal, ignore it. If my valve guides ever go on my BMW, I will definitely use ATP 205

FootStick · 07-05-2018, 03:21 PM

This is timely thread. I was informed last week that my E93 has an oil pan leak. I wasn't considering the fix-in-a-bottle solution, but I had decided a $1,000+ repair wasn't in the cards either. The responses in this thread confirm to my decision to forego the repair.

tylerboland01 · 07-05-2018, 06:10 PM

Replace it yourself or go to an independent mechanic. Stop-leak is just a really shitty band-aide.

BSM n54iS · 07-05-2018, 06:52 PM

Put a band-aid over the leak instead

Efthreeoh · 07-05-2018, 08:25 PM

Wait... Who was that guy back in early 2018 said he fixed his neighbors Bimmer with JB Weld on the pan/block part line? Call him.

Efthreeoh · 07-05-2018, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by mecheng77

The only time when these type of oil additives make sense is when the cost of repair or value of car is cost prohibitive. For example, I had a Volvo T5 which had a slight leak in the valve guides. I used ATP-205 and it completely cured it, I was amazed

It does not work by clogging ports as some as state above, it has plasticizers which reguivinate the seals. The additives you should never use are the cooling ones that fix leaks, those will cause damage.

Considering wepage in the pan is normal, ignore it. If my valve guides ever go on my BMW, I will definitely use ATP 205

The pan gasket on the N52 sucks. It gets hard and brittle as a brick. It's three tiny lines of rubber, nothing would swell it.

lowrydr310 · 07-06-2018, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

The pan gasket on the N52 sucks. It gets hard and brittle as a brick. It's three tiny lines of rubber, nothing would swell it.

If it's the same material as the oil filter housing gasket, then yeah... mine was like solid hard plastic. I should have saved it to soak in some of this magic in a bottle just to see what would happen.

Efthreeoh · 07-07-2018, 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by lowrydr310

If it's the same material as the oil filter housing gasket, then yeah... mine was like solid hard plastic. I should have saved it to soak in some of this magic in a bottle just to see what would happen.

It's a metal gasket with three 1MM diameter rubber strips as seals, which then has a coating that adheres to the surfaces when heat cycled. The small rubber seals basically turn to carbon after years of heat cycling.

If you have the pan gasket replaced, an additional layer of gasket maker should be used. I used P-Tex Ultra Black on mine.

07-04-2018, 01:24 PM	#1
mike sevel Second Lieutenant 44 Rep 220 Posts Drives: '08 328i atlantic blue Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: NEW BRAUNFELS, TX iTrader: (0)	The "DEViL" as my "savior"? 08 E93 60k miles. Two recalls were completed (PCV and heater wiring). While on the rack, tech sez my oil pan gasket is leaking and it can be replaced for only $1,275.00!!!!! Oy vey! So I research oil sealer additives and came across BLUE DEVIL OIL STOP LEAK . If you watch the DIY and read glowing customer reviews, it should be a no brainer to correct the leak? Claims it is effective with no harm to the engine. I am not sure if the gasket is cork, composite or rubber. Wadda ya tink bloggers, should I take a chance? Thanx y'all. Mikey
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Efthreeoh General 17303 Rep 18,730 Posts Drives: The E90 + Z4 Coupe & Z3 R'ster Join Date: May 2012 Location: Virginia iTrader: (0)	So the chemical is smart enough to travel through the entire internal engine oiling system and then drip off the windage plate onto the lower block ledge where the pan leaks (right side near the bell housing) THEN coagulate and form a seal? Good luck with that.... __________________ A manual transmission can be set to "comfort", "sport", and "track" modes simply by the technique and speed at which you shift it; it doesn't need "modes", modes are for manumatics that try to behave like a real 3-pedal manual transmission. If you can money-shift it, it's a manual transmission. "Yeah, but NO ONE puts an automatic trans shift knob on a manual transmission."
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louietheking Registered 0 Rep 2 Posts Drives: e90 328xi Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: Yonkers, NY iTrader: (0)	i wouldn't take that risk, personally, I have a 2008 328xi and the dealership the previous owner took it to told him that the oil pan was leaking. I have owned the car for a few weeks now and have not had to top off the oil, I just keep checking it. If it is in fact leaking, the oil pan wouldn't leak into anything that would cause a major issue, I would just ensure to keep checking the oil level. $1275 would buy you 127 quarts of quality oil, it doesn't make any sense to do this repair unless it is leaking really bad. I am interested to hear other people's input on this as well though.
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hassmaschine Major General 3966 Rep 7,215 Posts Drives: "NBO" 330i Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: earth iTrader: (0)	Just leave it; unless its leaking like the BP Deep Horizon, there's no way its worth the trouble. Good grief - 2 drips of oil on the belly pan isn't going to hurt a damn thing. I'm 100% sure mine "leaks" but given I only use 1/2 quart in 10,000 miles - I'm not exactly sweating it.
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mecheng77 Colonel 1006 Rep 2,243 Posts Drives: 2007 328i / 2014 M235i Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Ontario Canada iTrader: (0) Garage List [0.00] [0.00]	The only time when these type of oil additives make sense is when the cost of repair or value of car is cost prohibitive. For example, I had a Volvo T5 which had a slight leak in the valve guides. I used ATP-205 and it completely cured it, I was amazed It does not work by clogging ports as some as state above, it has plasticizers which reguivinate the seals. The additives you should never use are the cooling ones that fix leaks, those will cause damage. Considering wepage in the pan is normal, ignore it. If my valve guides ever go on my BMW, I will definitely use ATP 205
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