[Manboy]

Originally Posted by Heartware

You told me that you are not going to do any racing with your car

The Audi-guy was askin for it!!

[dmboone25]

Originally Posted by Pavel

The Audi-guy was askin for it!!

My SA has told me that he will call me as soon as the V31 comes in....and that I can come in and get it done with no hassles....

IF it really is the fix that we have been waiting for, then I am really looking forward to it.....

[paltomare]

Originally Posted by Quisp

Yes the Dinan stage 2 removes the lag and adds a little more kick to it also.

Legal update:
I am meeting with the three lawyers Thursday Sept 25. 2 of them are flying up from Texas and we are meeting in Little Rock.

Is there anyone within a couple hours of Little Rock that would meet us there that day that has a lagging car? I will pay for the gas if you bring the car to the meeting so they can feel the lag. It would really help if they could actually feel the lag and see exactly what we are talking about! I have Dinan Stage 2 so mine doesnt lag anymore or I would use mine.

Nova, can I PM you so we can work out a way so that I can show them the file you have on this problem?

Glad to see the wheels are still motion regarding the class action. My gut tells me V.31 is not going to solve our problem here in the US but I hope I am wrong.

[Quisp]

I think that even if it does solve it the class action will go on anyway. A lot of people were making payments on a car that was less than what they originally signed up for. Other people, like myself, took different approaches and paid someone else to fix the problem.(Dinan or another type of flash for the ecu) Those people are out the money they paid plus the warranty issues.
I will definitely ask when I meet with them.

If anyone has a question, or something that they think I should bring up to the lawyers post it and then we can make up a list of the key questions and points which I will bring to the meeting.

[meyergru]

Originally Posted by paltomare

Glad to see the wheels are still motion regarding the class action. My gut tells me V.31 is not going to solve our problem here in the US but I hope I am wrong.

Alas, you ain't.

My BMW shop's foreman finally got the info: v31 does not address the problem:

"There has been no change with regard to turbo response with CIP 31.0. If and when this will happen is still under analysis."

This is getting way out of hand. I'd say sue them. I doubt BMW will change anything if not forced to.

My car is in the shop (as I said, I'm still in Turkey) because the steering wheel gets locked up sometimes. Boy, am I glad that I specifically ordered them not to program it again before I left... woe to them if they do!

[RBBMWE46M3]

Originally Posted by meyergru

Alas, you ain't.

My BMW shop's foreman finally got the info: v31 does not address the problem:

"There has been no change with regard to turbo response with CIP 31.0. If and when this will happen is still under analysis."

This is getting way out of hand. I'd say sue them. I doubt BMW will change anything if not forced to.

My car is in the shop (as I said, I'm still in Turkey) because the steering wheel gets locked up sometimes. Boy, am I glad that I specifically ordered them not to program it again before I left... woe to them if they do!

I don't know how far it is from Pavel but you two might want to hook up....This is getting fucking ridicules

[paltomare]

Originally Posted by meyergru

Alas, you ain't.

My BMW shop's foreman finally got the info: v31 does not address the problem:

"There has been no change with regard to turbo response with CIP 31.0. If and when this will happen is still under analysis."

This is getting way out of hand. I'd say sue them. I doubt BMW will change anything if not forced to.

My car is in the shop (as I said, I'm still in Turkey) because the steering wheel gets locked up sometimes. Boy, am I glad that I specifically ordered them not to program it again before I left... woe to them if they do!

As I suspected. My shop foreman was informed about 2 weeks ago that v.31 mainly addresses an alarm problem with the 1 Series cars but was also told v.32 does address the lag. We will see. I'm for continuing with the class action anyway.

[Manboy]

This is getting ridiculous! There has to be someone out there besides me to have V31?? ...or is it exclusively for the proud country of Sweden???

I can't believe that V31 can have different effect on different 335s. Either It fixes the lag or it doesnt.

[Prof3ssor]

Give me a couple more days Pavel and I will let you know. I am trying not to read this forum until I get updated so I can make my own assumptions but I decided to take a peak today. Hopefully the SM's are telling people that the issue does not address lag as they just do not want to admit that there was ever an issue. Do you guys honestly think that BMW is going to tell everyone "yeah, we f'ed up your cars." Come on guys....with all the talk about class action suits they would basically be throwing themselves to the wolves. Trust me, they will not admit they f'ed up our cars so please comment once you get the update.

[clivem2]

Originally Posted by Pavel

This is getting ridiculous! There has to be someone out there besides me to have V31?? ...or is it exclusively for the proud country of Sweden???

I can't believe that V31 can have different effect on different 335s. Either It fixes the lag or it doesnt.

The information about there being no fix in V31 assumes BMW have admitted there is an issue - they have not as far as I am aware admitted there is a lag issue. So how can V31 officially fix something they say does not exist?

I'll get V31 but it's be about 2 or 3 weeks away as I'm off to the SF tomorrow and I'm waiting for my car to do over 1,000 miles before I WOT it. Then I'll get it updated so I can compare before and after.

[tyler9595]

CRAP!

I was able to talk my dealership into updating my car updated from 29.2 today...I just picked up the car and read my paperwork and it says v31!!! the exhaust note is still loud as shit...(even louder than before).

I told the SA I wanted updated to the newest version (32?)...I guess maybe they didnt have it yet? I feel like a retard!

Ezat, did I screw up by not confirming that they had the latest progman version? I'm sure they will not want to update me again...crap!

[exidisjon]

Originally Posted by tyler9595

CRAP!

I was able to talk my dealership into updating my car updated from 29.2 today...I just picked up the car and read my paperwork and it says v31!!! the exhaust note is still loud as shit...(even louder than before).

I told the SA I wanted updated to the newest version (32?)...I guess maybe they didnt have it yet? I feel like a retard!

Ezat, did I screw up by not confirming that they had the latest progman version? I'm sure they will not want to update me again...crap!

Are you sure you got the v31? I was confirmed that US didnt have v31 yet. Only v30.2

v31 is the version that fixes the lag isnt it?

Dam so many storys from so many different dealers.

[Prof3ssor]

Originally Posted by tyler9595

CRAP!

I was able to talk my dealership into updating my car updated from 29.2 today...I just picked up the car and read my paperwork and it says v31!!! the exhaust note is still loud as shit...(even louder than before).

I told the SA I wanted updated to the newest version (32?)...I guess maybe they didnt have it yet? I feel like a retard!

Ezat, did I screw up by not confirming that they had the latest progman version? I'm sure they will not want to update me again...crap!

You guys are killing me. Can you copy and post your work order for us to take a look at it. You most likely got 30.0.2 as your work order would not say v31 on it. It would say this - E89X-08-09-515 - I need to stop reading this forum until I get updated.

[tyler9595]

No. I'm not sure...The paperwork says 31 and something about "foreman called RTE for authorization...updated progman...dme module not updated....

I'm trying to attach a scan of my paperwork.

[tyler9595]

Going home now...I haven't driven the car yet after the update...I'll report in later. I have a feeling the car is going to suck...still....

[Manboy]

The simple fact is that I got the V31 as most of you have seen on my workorder.

1) lag is GONE.
2) exhaust note is quieter and smoother
3) fuel consumption has dropped

I cannot for any reason understand why U.S vehicles would not get the same result, hell, Its eaven more important for BMW to address U.S customers problems as you are together with Germany the biggest market for BMW.

I will have to run a dyno to get this on paper!


...or mabye ezatnova was right... mabye my dealer just flashed me with a Dinan s/w..

[Manboy]

Originally Posted by tyler9595

No. I'm not sure...The paperwork says 31 and something about "foreman called RTE for authorization...updated progman...dme module not updated....

I'm trying to attach a scan of my paperwork.

Dude, No wonder nothing changed.. yr DME was not updated.
What the hell are dealers doing??!!

[Prof3ssor]

Um, why was the DME not updated???????
I would rip into your dealer.

[tyler9595]

Originally Posted by Pavel

Dude, No wonder nothing changed.. yr DME was not updated.
What the hell are dealers doing??!!

Basically, they are saying the new software did not include update for engine management?

I just drove the car about 15 miles at operating temp. Car is still laggy as hell. No improvement as far as I can tell.

Why does my paperwork not show the progman version part number?

[exidisjon]

Dealers dont know what they are doing.....Prog man was updated to v31 but DME wasnt updated???? Arent they the same thing?

I just called my dealer again and they confirmed again after checking with shop foreman and said.
They only have the v30 version at there dealer. And thats a 100% confirm.

JMK in NJ doesnt have v31.

Somethings wierd..

[mistermojorizin]

Originally Posted by exidisjon

Dealers dont know what they are doing.....Prog man was updated to v31 but DME wasnt updated???? Arent they the same thing?

Somethings wierd..

they are not the same. a new progman # often comes out without new engine managment software in it. (it might be updated other electronic modules on the car)

example: v29.2 and v30 have the same laggy engine software. The engine software numbers are the E89-xxx-xxx numbers that someone posted earlier. With the last 3 numbers being important, its like 515, 530, 540 - something like that.

[shaddai]

A regional tech is going to look at my car on Monday. Still not holding my breath.

In other news - I drove home a Ford Taurus rental/loaner from the dealer. I tricked my 10 year old into thinking I had sold the BMW and bought the (very) used Ford because of the problems I've had so far.