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      02-25-2021, 03:22 PM   #1
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my 335i on fire (blower motor wiring recall?)

backstory: my 335i caught on fire about a week ago most likely (imo) due to the blower motor wiring recall; what's weird is that I had the recall done on this car before, but based on how/where the fire started (with some small differences) it seems that that is still a possibility. from the pictures, you can see that the fire started from the passenger side near the windshield (the firefighters confirmed this), which is where the blower motor is located too; I've contacted bmw and for now they've requested additional photos. I don't want to point any fingers because I'm not 100% certain this is due to the recall, but just wanted to share in case this might help anyone. I'll keep this thread updated, cheers!

( I had this cool video of my car on fire too but I don't think I can attach videos here )
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      02-25-2021, 03:27 PM   #2
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Ouch - that looks nasty. Good to hear you're ok.
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Ouch - that looks nasty. Good to hear you're ok.
thanks man, I'm just glad nobody got hurt! could've been a lot worse haha
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      02-25-2021, 04:00 PM   #4
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Yikes. Major bummer but like you say, coulda been worse.

Just the other day someone rolled off I-5 in Seattle, on fire, and parked in the first parking lot they could find. A gas station. Then set the gas station on fire. Burnt it to the ground. Yes, people are that stupid.

IIRC there was also a "battery cable" recall years ago where the main + goes into the back of the fuse panel, which is only inches away from the blower motor. I also believe that neither recall properly addressed the cause of the issues:

The blower motor wiring recall replaces the blower speed controller and its input connector and wiring with a waterproof version instead of fixing the persistent water ingress issues. My blower motor wiring melted down a couple weeks ago so I haven't had heat. I pulled the fuse since it kept sparking. I haven't had the recall done yet. My bad. Honestly, I have a job that I need to get to. How am I supposed to get the recall done when they won't give a loaner?

The old battery cable recall had the tech examine, IIRC, the cable and termination and replace if they were brown/burnt. Doesn't fix the issue of poor/corroded interconnection causing a slow overheat and meltdown. Either need more secure connections, stop making things out of flammable plastic, and/or temp sensors on high-current interconnects (this could also help with the blower motor issue)

And before you say "who honestly thinks they would put temp sensors inside high-current interconnects just to monitor for corrosion": Ryobi, known in the USA for cheap DIY-quality cordless drills available only from The Home Desperate, uses a temp sensor in the stem of the battery to monitor the temp of the terminals (in addition to the typical cell temp sensor). Yes, a cheap drill battery has interconnection temp sensing. No reason $50k cars that catch fire shouldn't, especially with its smart, PCB integrated fuse panel.

Also, I can't resist. For Sale: E92, low miles, tasteful performance mods, always garaged, cracked windshield and paint needs some TLC with a clay bar. Tires have tons of life left. Serious offers only; please no low-ball.
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      02-25-2021, 04:21 PM   #5
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Sorry for your loss, it looks like a heavily modded car. I hope that your insurance offers you a decent payout. It may be to your advantage to buy it back and part it out.
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      02-26-2021, 01:45 PM   #6
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That sucks! I'd be interested to see your video though because... I'm a rubber-necker at heart. You can post your video on YouTube and then link it here.
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Wow, that hurts to see. Sorry for your loss.
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Yikes. Major bummer but like you say, coulda been worse.

Just the other day someone rolled off I-5 in Seattle, on fire, and parked in the first parking lot they could find. A gas station. Then set the gas station on fire. Burnt it to the ground. Yes, people are that stupid.

IIRC there was also a "battery cable" recall years ago where the main + goes into the back of the fuse panel, which is only inches away from the blower motor. I also believe that neither recall properly addressed the cause of the issues:

The blower motor wiring recall replaces the blower speed controller and its input connector and wiring with a waterproof version instead of fixing the persistent water ingress issues. My blower motor wiring melted down a couple weeks ago so I haven't had heat. I pulled the fuse since it kept sparking. I haven't had the recall done yet. My bad. Honestly, I have a job that I need to get to. How am I supposed to get the recall done when they won't give a loaner?

The old battery cable recall had the tech examine, IIRC, the cable and termination and replace if they were brown/burnt. Doesn't fix the issue of poor/corroded interconnection causing a slow overheat and meltdown. Either need more secure connections, stop making things out of flammable plastic, and/or temp sensors on high-current interconnects (this could also help with the blower motor issue)

And before you say "who honestly thinks they would put temp sensors inside high-current interconnects just to monitor for corrosion": Ryobi, known in the USA for cheap DIY-quality cordless drills available only from The Home Desperate, uses a temp sensor in the stem of the battery to monitor the temp of the terminals (in addition to the typical cell temp sensor). Yes, a cheap drill battery has interconnection temp sensing. No reason $50k cars that catch fire shouldn't, especially with its smart, PCB integrated fuse panel.

Also, I can't resist. For Sale: E92, low miles, tasteful performance mods, always garaged, cracked windshield and paint needs some TLC with a clay bar. Tires have tons of life left. Serious offers only; please no low-ball.
Hmmm never heard about that other recall, very interesting though. But yeah man I agree, seems like the fixes aren't really proper fixes, since even after getting it done a fire started, and there's probably a bunch of other cases about their other recalls too!

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That sucks! I'd be interested to see your video though because... I'm a rubber-necker at heart. You can post your video on YouTube and then link it here.
Haha I got you! I'll try to get it up later today. Will update with the link!
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Haha I got you! I'll try to get it up later today. Will update with the link!

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well in Poland and probably Europe bmw released now service action because e9x can burn details https://mega.nz/file/twwCXKpA#1HX4s1...rUbYFZEm9SfEaE
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Damn... Fires are by far my biggest fear with my cars. Glad you're okay
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Why is the hood all wrinkled up?
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Why is the hood all wrinkled up?
Fire dudes see the fire and nothing else. Long ago I had a small fire in my house and they destroyed the whole house. Later the insurance drama lasted for over 3 years.
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Fire dudes see the fire and nothing else. Long ago I had a small fire in my house and they destroyed the whole house. Later the insurance drama lasted for over 3 years.
You think fire buckled up the hood like that?

What about the doors, a pillar, fender frame? They don't seem deformed.

Looks like firefighters might have ripped it apart like that for access.

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What happened with insurance?
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Fire dudes see the fire and nothing else. Long ago I had a small fire in my house and they destroyed the whole house. Later the insurance drama lasted for over 3 years.
You think fire buckled up the hood like that?

What about the doors, a pillar, fender frame? They don't seem deformed.

Looks like firefighters might have ripped it apart like that for access.
Yeah they pry'd it open to get better access to put the fire out; everything else is honestly not that bad, nothing deformed or warped, just charred!
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What happened with insurance?
Nothing special honestly, just the same as it would any other accident; they declared it a total loss and gave me a decent check. Luckily I was able to buy the car back for $300!
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I imagine there are more than enough salvageable parts to make money on that transaction.
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Just had this recall done this week along with the drivers airbag. DAMN! Happy to hear you are alright!
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damn that sucks sorry to hear
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I wonder if the dealer didn't actually replace the wiring but said they did or said it was okay?

N55's have an issue with the vanos bolts that got recalled and a lot of people said their receipts said "checked for broken bolts in oil pan, removed them and replace the broken bolts" or something when clearly neither the valve cover or the oil pan had been touched.

Sorry for your loss but glad nobody was hurt.
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