[gIzzE]

It is never going to feel quicker than a GTi, it is about the same power but much more linear in its delivery than the GTi, the GTi has a big shove to it that you don't get with the 123d.
I think they both have a 0-60 of 6.7 seconds??

I bet I could get round a track quicker in the 123d than the GTi though, wonderfully balanced machine on the edge, as is the GTi for a FWD car.

[mikem]

I love driving our 118d, the steering and handling feel just like my old E36, it feels so nimble its amazing how quickly you can actually drive it.

[chrisbin]

I just hate the driving position in the 1.....clutch lines up with centre of st. wheel - never right!!

[330cdsport]

Originally Posted by chrisbin

I just hate the driving position in the 1.....clutch lines up with centre of st. wheel - never right!!

Really - I never noticed any difference going between the wifes 1 and either of my E46 or E92 ??????

Is this what you sometimes see when people complain about the pedal offset in BMWs?

[chrisbin]

Originally Posted by 330cdsport

Really - I never noticed any difference going between the wifes 1 and either of my E46 or E92 ??????

Is this what you sometimes see when people complain about the pedal offset in BMWs?

Yep....the 3's are bad enough, but honestly, in the 1 it literally lines up with the centre boss. OK, I know you can get used to it, but I dont like to think of my spine being twisted like that too much....

When you first get in if you put your left foot down without any thought I guarantee you will find it on the footrest, not the clutch.

[jonnyuk06]

i love the 123d engine, got it in my coupe (its all down to opinion but i love the look of the coupe, not keen on the hatch). the 123d would have a gti for breakfast, its not much slower than a r32, 0-6 is a close run thing, its only after 60 where the r32 pulls away.once the 123d is tuned (ecu remap) it would be a little rocket ship. mpg aint bad either for 200bhp + motor

[ChrisMWard]

Originally Posted by AndyPandy

Tried the 123D a few weeks ago and have never been so underwhelmed in my life. After all the hype I was hoping it would have felt quicker than my old GTi DSG, but it didnt. Nice car, but just didnt do it for me...

When I test drove a 123d Coupe I felt it wasn't really any quicker than a 120d but to fair it only had 18 miles on the clock. What did stand out was how much quieter it was and the complete lack of any turbo lag. It also had about a 500 RPM rev ceiling increase over the 120 so I'm sure you'd notice the differfence when the engine loosened up a bit. When I replace the 120 I will probably go for 123d.

Regards

Chris

[creepy coupe]

Originally Posted by ChrisMWard

When I test drove a 123d Coupe I felt it wasn't really any quicker than a 120d but to fair it only had 18 miles on the clock. What did stand out was how much quieter it was and the complete lack of any turbo lag. It also had about a 500 RPM rev ceiling increase over the 120 so I'm sure you'd notice the differfence when the engine loosened up a bit. When I replace the 120 I will probably go for 123d.

Regards

Chris

The one I drove had better throttle response compared to my 320d coupe I'd imagine down to the twin turbo set up,

Agree on you points RE.. quieter and extra revs, better all round in fact.